ba1614 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31745563/ns/po...house?GT1=43001 All they had to do was LISTEN to what most respected economists were saying about where it was heading. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 The Democrats pounded the Bush Administration for a "jobless recovery" during 2002-2004....now we can be entertained by their own tap dancing. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Shady Posted July 6, 2009 Report Posted July 6, 2009 We will definitely see that Biden quote in many political ads during the summer and fall of 2010. Unemployment will probably have peaked by then, most likely around 10 - 11%. The Democrats will have much to answer for. Quote
rabidgoose Posted July 7, 2009 Report Posted July 7, 2009 We will definitely see that Biden quote in many political ads during the summer and fall of 2010. Unemployment will probably have peaked by then, most likely around 10 - 11%. The Democrats will have much to answer for. Biden is a walking time bomb for Obama. Between his age, his health, and his propensity for verbal gaffes I wonder if he will "step aside" in 2012, doing his part for God, King and Country. Quote
ba1614 Posted July 8, 2009 Author Report Posted July 8, 2009 Stuttering Stimulus By INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY | Posted Monday, July 06, 2009 4:20 PM PT Stimulus: "The truth is, there was a misreading of just how bad an economy we inherited," Vice President Joe Biden told ABC News. Really? What about the "worst economy since the Great Depression"? Investors.com - Stuttering Stimulus Those who pushed through this year's $787 billion fiscal "stimulus" seem to be counting on the American people's short memory. Wasn't it just last year that we were told, repeatedly and with stark emphasis, that this economy was the "worst" since the Great Depression? That was the pretense for not only the stimulus, but for the federal takeover of the U.S. auto industry and the quasi-takeover of the U.S. financial industry. It's also the underlying premise for both nationalized health care and massive new taxes to cut CO2 emissions. If the stimulus passed, the White House vowed, unemployment would peak at 8%. Today, it's 9.5% — and rising. "The truth is, we and everyone else misread the economy," said Biden. He used that phrase — "the truth is," or something similar — at least three times in a talk with ABC's George Stephanopolous. But the "truth is" something quite different. Many voices — including ours — were raised in opposition to the stimulus when it was debated. We didn't "misread" the economy. We knew from history that, left alone, it would get better without government meddling. Instead, Americans were promised "shovel ready" projects would put stimulus money to work right away creating jobs. For the record, since February, the month the stimulus was passed, the U.S. has lost 2 million jobs. The stimulus is clearly a failure. Yet, says Biden: "The truth of the matter was, no one anticipated, no one expected that the recovery package would in fact be in a position at this point of having to distribute the bulk of the money." But that's not the "truth of the matter" at all. Many economists and conservative politicians warned explicitly about this very problem. So did IBD. And so did numerous other media outlets. The notion that no one brought it up is simply false. Of $157.8 billion "made available" under the stimulus, only $56.3 billion has been paid out — or 7% of the total $787 billion. And according to ex-Treasury Department economist Bruce Bartlett, "just 11% of the the discretionary spending on highways, mass transit, energy efficiency and other programs involving direct government purchases will have been spent by the end of this fiscal year." Based on this, there are only two possible conclusions: One, the stimulus has been the most inept public waste of money in history. Or two, it was a cynical attempt by the Democrats to vastly expand the scope of government during a time of crisis. Or maybe it's both. After all, how else could a government seize major parts of a once-private economy with nary a peep? How else could it boost spending to record levels, then blame earlier administrations for their fiscal incontinence? And how else could they add $10 trillion to the nation's debt in just 10 years and still claim fiscal prudence? Yet, faced with this, economist Paul Krugman and others on the left argue that a second stimulus is needed. Asked about it, Biden — who oversees the stimulus, by the way — refused to reject it. This is a little like a medieval barber bleeding his patients to improve their health, then bleeding them again when they fail to improve. At some point we'll all wake up and use modern medicine. Until then, why double-down on failure? Those who argue doing nothing wasn't an option are wrong. We would now be emerging from this recession if the government had left well enough alone. The Fed's interest-rate cuts to zero last December would have been plenty. Instead, we're facing the worst recovery since the Depression, and the entrepreneurs who fuel job growth are hunkering down to weather planned tax hikes in the trillions of dollars. Quote
rabidgoose Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Biden is a loose cannon. Obama should drop him in 2012. I would think that well before then they would be tired of having to do damage control like this. Quote
Shady Posted July 8, 2009 Report Posted July 8, 2009 Stuttering Stimulus Yep. It's pretty safe to say, that Obama's economic "stimulus", which was more of a government stimulus, has been a complete disaster. It was suppose to be timely, temporary, and targeted. It hasn't been any of those. John McCain would have pushed for a smaller, but more targeted and timely stimulus bill. He would have suspended payroll taxes, captial gains taxes, and cut taxes for businesses and inividuals, as well as the corporate tax rate, which is now the highest of the G8. It would have actually stimulated the private sector, which is the primary engine of job creation, instead of expanding the budgets of government programs. And now they have the nerve to talk of a second stimulus, because they failed so miserably on the first. Quote
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