Oleg Bach Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 This man is not a Russian as we know it. He is also not a Ukrainian - nor is he American or even a Canadian - He is what is left of the un-holy Holy Roman Empire..It's a case of tradition and genetics. As we have come to understand his family were courtiers and advised the Czar of Russia - the Roman emporer Nichola Romanoff - Nick of Rome - The cut of Ignatieffs profile is that of a Roman aristocrat - He has the standard eyes of a hawk and his aqueline nose is that of the greatest bird of prey that exists - the eagle. As for most of the European, British and Russian 'royalty' all were given posts and empires - All of them displaced the local clan leaders or Kings. These types have been circulating around for centuries - if he was within the animal kingdom - Iggy would be a hawk...what he expects out of Canada is to be elevated to the lofty level of eagle - the Prime Ministers office...where once put up on his perch - will survey all the mice on mass and hunt and eat us at his liesure - I am not saying he is an evil man -but he is what he is - like certain dogs that are breed for a specific purpose and job. It was the Romans that took care of the final act of deposing of Jesus the King of Judea - think of Ignatieff as Pontius Pilate - who sacraficed a real king and replaced a benevolent ruler with a preditorial state of affairs...Iggy is our Pontius - His soul purpose will be to feed on the unwashed masses - He can not help it - this is the way this machine was designed - do we want to be prey - or do we want to be loved and governed? That is the question. ? *** Quote
Bonam Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 Haha. The funny thing is he actually does look like I imagine a Roman aristocrat would have looked. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 How about just an arrogant, narcissistic egomaniac. Oh wait that pretty much goes for all of them. Quote
Argus Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 How about just an arrogant, narcissistic egomaniac.Oh wait that pretty much goes for all of them. Pretty much. I've given up hoping for a leader who is all those magical things we read about in our fantasy books, smart, savvy, caring, honest, etc. Now I'm just hoping for someone who can do the job well and actually cares enough - even if for personal reason, like wanting to be admired or wanting to go down in history - to do what's best for the country. Harper kinda sorta meets that minimal requirement - most of the time. I haven't seen any evidence yet that Ignatieff does. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jerry J. Fortin Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 Pretty much. I've given up hoping for a leader who is all those magical things we read about in our fantasy books, smart, savvy, caring, honest, etc. Now I'm just hoping for someone who can do the job well and actually cares enough - even if for personal reason, like wanting to be admired or wanting to go down in history - to do what's best for the country.Harper kinda sorta meets that minimal requirement - most of the time. I haven't seen any evidence yet that Ignatieff does. Justin Trudeau. Quote
Argus Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 Justin Trudeau. There is no evidence that Trudeau is anything more than a well-meaning schoolteacher with leftist tendencies, a naive view of the world and nice hair. Someone suggested earlier, August I think, that Canadians would prefer a tough, mean bastard as long as he gets the job done, to a hand-wringing weakling, and I would go along with that. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jerry J. Fortin Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 There is no evidence that Trudeau is anything more than a well-meaning schoolteacher with leftist tendencies, a naive view of the world and nice hair.Someone suggested earlier, August I think, that Canadians would prefer a tough, mean bastard as long as he gets the job done, to a hand-wringing weakling, and I would go along with that. There is simply no great amount of evidence yet, that is true. There is a little steel visible every once and a while though. Consider this, the riding in which he ran had a BLOC representative in place, and that person was defeated in his own yard. You know what kind of game the BLOC plays in campaigns, it is rough. He was victorious in that first real political effort. Consider his political activism before that on the environmental front, successful there as well. He is young, give him a little time. Quote
Argus Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 There is simply no great amount of evidence yet, that is true. There is a little steel visible every once and a while though. Consider this, the riding in which he ran had a BLOC representative in place, and that person was defeated in his own yard. You know what kind of game the BLOC plays in campaigns, it is rough. He was victorious in that first real political effort. Consider his political activism before that on the environmental front, successful there as well. He is young, give him a little time. But how much of his success is based upon his abilities as opposed to his inherited name? Would he even have gotten the nomination for that riding were it not for his name? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Jerry J. Fortin Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 But how much of his success is based upon his abilities as opposed to his inherited name? Would he even have gotten the nomination for that riding were it not for his name? That riding was picked for him by the leader of the party at the time!. That is why I said, give him time. Name recognition can go a long way, that is true to a certain degree. Yet I would not vote for a guy just because of his name, would you? Quote
Shady Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 Justin Trudeau. LOL An empty suit, from a privileged background, with the right last name. Whatever. Quote
Borg Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) Justin Trudeau. Anything called trudeau would never get the sweeat off my left testicle - just the name gives me a feeling of disgust after what his bastard father did to some of my family The kid lives on his fathers name - and people fall for it kebec loves him - says it all F**k anything trudeau Borg Edited June 19, 2009 by Borg Quote
Moonbox Posted June 19, 2009 Report Posted June 19, 2009 This man is not a Russian as we know it. He is also not a Ukrainian - nor is he American or even a Canadian - He is what is left of the un-holy Holy Roman Empire..It's a case of tradition and genetics. As we have come to understand his family were courtiers and advised the Czar of Russia - the Roman emporer Nichola Romanoff - Nick of Rome - The cut of Ignatieffs profile is that of a Roman aristocrat - He has the standard eyes of a hawk and his aqueline nose is that of the greatest bird of prey that exists - the eagle. The Holy Roman Empire was Germanic Catholic Empire. The Russians, as far as I know, never claimed any connection to the HRE, as they were never a catholic nation but rather an orthodox christian nation. The Russians claimed to be the 'third' Rome and that they carried on the traditions of ancient Rome and Byzantium, but everyone and their mother claims that so it means nothing. As for Ignatieff, he's an ugly mother and doesn't look anything like a Roman aristocrat. I take offense to that because I'm a Roman history buff Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Oleg Bach Posted June 19, 2009 Author Report Posted June 19, 2009 The Holy Roman Empire was Germanic Catholic Empire. The Russians, as far as I know, never claimed any connection to the HRE, as they were never a catholic nation but rather an orthodox christian nation. The Russians claimed to be the 'third' Rome and that they carried on the traditions of ancient Rome and Byzantium, but everyone and their mother claims that so it means nothing. As for Ignatieff, he's an ugly mother and doesn't look anything like a Roman aristocrat. I take offense to that because I'm a Roman history buff He's got the hawk nose.. as for Russians being all orthodox - that's mostly correct - but as you stretch out to the Polish border the schism becomes more pronounced and you see the Catholic line form --- I bet you a hundrend bucks that this man is Catholic and not of the old Russian orthodox lineage. Quote
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