De-sensitivity training

JerrySeinfeld · June 6, 2009

I put up a post on here saying gay isn't normal, and a few cry babies actaully had the nerve to accuse me of "hatred".

Isn't that a little steep?

You know, despite what they're trying to shove down our throats these days, we don't have to like everything, every lifestyle. We don't really even have to "tolerate" it.

Freedom goes both ways: just as you have the freedom to make your women wear a mask on their faces or to date people of the same sex, I have the freedom to think it odd, wierd, offensive or even downright mysoginistic.

And I also have the freedom to express it.

These days, if you're caught saying something mildly durogatory you gotta get some "sensitivity training", which in my opinion is orwellian indoctrination designed to drill into your brain "this is how we think...this is how we talk...this is how we act"....

My suggestion is that we look at it from the other way: everyone should take some "de-sensitivity" training. ie. some lessons in how to develop a thicker skin.

You know, when some guy of another race makes fun of white people, I don't give a shit. I hear it all the time from brown people, and I really don't care. The only thought that goes through my mind is: "strange - if I said something like that I'd be deemed a bigot".

That's the beauty of "Family Guy" - it's an excersice in "de-sensitivity training". Everyone, every race, sexual orientation, gender etc. is targeted. And that's reality. If you've ever been in a taxi, you know you can talk tto the east indian guy behind the wheel about the terrible driving habits of the chinese. And you both have a good laugh about it. why? because it's funny and it's true. Then you pay the guy and both get on with life. No one files a grievance. No one gets called a bigot. No one is forced to take "sensitiovity" training.

You know the other day some lesbian in vancouver tried hauling a comedian out in front of the human rights commission (and also started a fight with him) because he made some off colour jokes about her sexual orientation. Geez. Isn't the essence of humor the ability to have a laugh - at everything? And you wanna take that away?

Wow. I think it's ttime we all had some "de-sensitivity" training.

Oleg Bach · June 6, 2009

No one hates you - and no one hates gays - if they are one tenth of one percentage of the population that would make them not of the norm - But there are idiots that try to say that 10% of the populace is gay - well - those guys are not normal either. OF course non-breeding humans are not of the norm - BUT if you have not husbanded a woman and had a few offspring - then you have no right to critic gays - because you are a non-breeder also - you are not a man till you have had children - then once you have had children you no longer think like a self centered teenager - For the first time you will actually - like your parents think of the protection and care of others - your kids! Then my son - you are a MAN.

Peter F · June 6, 2009

And I also have the freedom to express it.
These days, if you're caught saying something mildly durogatory you gotta get some "sensitivity training",

What? You have the freedom to express things and I don't have the feedom to express my belief that you gotta get some sensitivity training?

JerrySeinfeld · June 6, 2009

What? You have the freedom to express things and I don't have the feedom to express my belief that you gotta get some sensitivity training?

Haha, and around we go.

But all I'm asking for is to be left to my own beliefs. You're asking to force me to do something and think a certain way.

These days, it's not enough for a religion, race or lifestyle choice to be legal and enjoy all the luxuries of a democratic society...now we all have to like it too, or we're branded.

Dangerously close to fascism.

Edited June 6, 2009 by JerrySeinfeld

Sir Bandelot · June 6, 2009

I put up a post on here saying gay isn't normal, and a few cry babies actaully had the nerve to accuse me of "hatred".
Isn't that a little steep?

we don't have to like everything, every lifestyle. We don't really even have to "tolerate" it.

just as you have the freedom to make your women wear a mask on their faces or to date people of the same sex, I have the freedom to think it odd, wierd, offensive or even downright mysoginistic.

And I also have the freedom to express it.

Yes you do have that freedom, just as others have the freedom to judge you on it, and call you a "hater". What else does it mean, to not like something, and to be intolerant towards it?I can't think of another word for it, and if you can't accept it then maybe its you who has issues.

Maybe, you really do like 'em, a lot

So I don't think you need desensitivity training... you need self-acceptance training. The fact is you dislike gays... thats what you are. Says so right there in your post.

JerrySeinfeld · June 6, 2009

Yes you do have that freedom, just as others have the freedom to judge you on it, and call you a "hater". What else does it mean, to not like something, and to be intolerant towards it?I can't think of another word for it, and if you can't accept it then maybe its you who has issues.
Maybe, you really do like 'em, a lot

So I don't think you need desensitivity training... you need self-acceptance training. The fact is you dislike gays... thats what you are. Says so right there in your post.

The very idea of the concept of "training" is actually a fascist concept. Think about it.

Progressivism at it's very core is the idea of accepting all just for the sake of it.

No attention is paid to the issue or morals, right and wrong or values.

Morals and values in the new world have somehow been made out to be "bad". That's the stranglehold the left has over the use of language. If someone brings up morals, they are dismissed.

It's disgusting, really. And dangerous.

There is such a thing as right and wrong. And the fact that you have chosen to take this thread and mark it as solely relating to homsexuality is telling. It's about people being oveersensitive all over the place - gays are just one example.

Again, there is such a thing as right and wrong. Beating your wife, believing in polygamy or forcing women to wear a mask covering their face is wrong.

There is no "cultural nuance" we're all missing because we haven't been enlightened by some brain dead aceademic. It's wrong, pure and simple.

tango · June 6, 2009

The very idea of the concept of "training" is actually a fascist concept. Think about it.
Progressivism at it's very core is the idea of accepting all just for the sake of it.

No attention is paid to the issue or morals, right and wrong or values.

Morals and values in the new world have somehow been made out to be "bad". That's the stranglehold the left has over the use of language. If someone brings up morals, they are dismissed.

It's disgusting, really. And dangerous.

There is such a thing as right and wrong. And the fact that you have chosen to take this thread and mark it as solely relating to homsexuality is telling. It's about people being oveersensitive all over the place - gays are just one example.

Again, there is such a thing as right and wrong. Beating your wife, believing in polygamy or forcing women to wear a mask covering their face is wrong.

There is no "cultural nuance" we're all missing because we haven't been enlightened by some brain dead aceademic. It's wrong, pure and simple.

Wrong ... for you, perhaps.

But please don't try to impose your views on me, because I find your views are bigoted, even hateful.

Yup, you can express your opinion, but expect to get the same in return. That's the way the world works.

"Training" to participate in a diverse society is something we all gain as we mature ... or at least some of us do. :lol:

(Thanks for the laugh ... at your expense ... I assume that's ok since you think it's ok to do it do others.)

Edited June 6, 2009 by tango

Sir Bandelot · June 6, 2009

Progressivism at it's very core is the idea of accepting all just for the sake of it.

Liberalism is a better word. One can still be a progressive conservative. Well, it use to be possible once upon a time!

Peter F · June 6, 2009

Haha, and around we go.
But all I'm asking for is to be left to my own beliefs. You're asking to force me to do something and think a certain way.

These days, it's not enough for a religion, race or lifestyle choice to be legal and enjoy all the luxuries of a democratic society...now we all have to like it too, or we're branded.

Dangerously close to fascism.

yes, round and round we go Jerry. All you are asking is to be left to your own beliefs which apparently include that gays should be denounced as immoral, wrong and just plain-ol' sicko's. And that, Jerry, is precisely how I think you should be treated!

JerrySeinfeld · June 6, 2009

yes, round and round we go Jerry. All you are asking is to be left to your own beliefs which apparently include that gays should be denounced as immoral, wrong and just plain-ol' sicko's. And that, Jerry, is precisely how I think you should be treated!

Well, you're entitled tto your opinion, as am I.

cybercoma · June 7, 2009

Jerry, I think your views are immoral, wrong, and just plain sick.

JerrySeinfeld · June 7, 2009

Jerry, I think your views are immoral, wrong, and just plain sick.

Good for you. :blink:

You think I'm offended?

Not. I don't buy into that victimology crap the rest of the profesional ethnic grievance mongers would have you think is important.

Try someone else - no bait takers here.

scorpio · June 7, 2009

Wow. I think it's ttime we all had some "de-sensitivity" training.

More like tolerance training, and perhaps some anger management.

Edited June 7, 2009 by scorpio

JerrySeinfeld · June 8, 2009

More like tolerance training, and perhaps some anger management.

"Tolerance training". Sounds like something out of a sci-fi movie about a tyranical regime.

"This one's still got his own opinions. better get him down to the sludge dungeon for some "tolerance training""

cybercoma · June 8, 2009

You think I'm offended?

I didn't consider whether or not you would be offended, nor do I care.

Pliny · June 8, 2009

Jerry, I think your views are immoral, wrong, and just plain sick.

An illustration of tolerance training, perhaps?

Pliny · June 8, 2009

I didn't consider whether or not you would be offended, nor do I care.

Tolerance training does that.

cybercoma · June 8, 2009

I do not tolerate all things.

JerrySeinfeld · June 8, 2009

I didn't consider whether or not you would be offended, nor do I care.

Good - you're starting to get the idea

Smallc · June 8, 2009

Intolerance is one thing that shouldn't be tolerated. He already had the idea...you don't.

JerrySeinfeld · June 9, 2009

Intolerance is one thing that shouldn't be tolerated.

Oh really? So then you would agree that Muslims who hate gays and trample women's rights should not be tolerated? Bait taken i love it.

Edited June 9, 2009 by JerrySeinfeld

Pliny · June 9, 2009

Intolerance is one thing that shouldn't be tolerated.

I hope you said that tolerantly or were you just making a funny?

Pliny · June 9, 2009

I do not tolerate all things.

Oh! Oh! Does this mean further studies may be necessary?

That's enough poking fun I guess.

The politically correct sensitivity training and anger management stuff is in my view a waste of time and apparently most people think so too as they won't go out and buy it themselves. It has to be made mandatory or paid for by the State. If it were effective that might be another story people might actually consider it valuable.

GostHacked · June 9, 2009

Haha, and around we go.
But all I'm asking for is to be left to my own beliefs.

Don't post. This way you will be left with your own beliefs. Once you post them, they are open so everyone can respond. If you post, you know you are going to get some flack either way. Tough it up buttercup. Who needs the thicker skin here?

Smallc · June 9, 2009

Oh really? So then you would agree that Muslims who hate gays and trample women's rights should not be tolerated? Bait taken i love it.

Their views certainly shouldn't be allowed to influence any policy making...and that is true of any other intollerant group....you seem to have me mistaken for someone who regularly practices hypocricy.