Who does Canada Trust Most? - Reader's Digest

jdobbin · May 23, 2009

From my observation, you're acting like someone who has multiple personality disorder. If you look through your posts, you'll find your other personality, who seems to be far more emotional, has called Harper a sociopath several times.

I believe he acts like a sociopath. As I said, it is far milder description of Harper's behaviour than I have seen from Rex Murphy or Andrew Coyne.

Unless, of course, it's your wife logging in and posting for you. But that would only make sense if you were a paid poster.

Ah, the old paid poster accusation. How much do you get paid?

jdobbin · May 23, 2009

I've been starting to wonder the same thing. Look at Dobbin's posts in the credit card thread. Smart, insightful, balanced, and rational. Compare that to what's in this thread. Sure doesn't look like the work of the same person to me.

Just because I don't agree that Harper is best prime minister in Canadian history?

I think if he stuck to his knitting and actually governed he would be a fair PM. However, as Tom Flanagan has said in numerous Globe and Mail articles, Harper is intent on destroying the Liberals. He would rather attack than govern and it is hurting his ability to gain a majority. It is rather pathological behaviour to follow. It is why I think he is a mad dog sociopath in this pursuit.

Harper would have a majority right now if he acted with a little more restraint. On Afghanistan, he politicized the issue so heavily that it almost threatened to derail his government. And that was no mean feat with Dion at the helm of the Liberals. Harper eventually came to his senses but the continued attacks on other issues has begun to define him as single bloodyminded or worse.

In regards to the Reader's Digest report, it should be taken with a grain of salt. Trudeau is usually the run away leader for best prime minister. I know some people have a hard time believing that but it is what the polls have said the last few years.

Edited May 23, 2009 by jdobbin

Oleg Bach · May 23, 2009

Who does Canada trust most? Why ME of course...all should strive to be honourable..it's a lost virture - trust and respect and the empowerment of all you met - power is the granting of power not the taking of it - the question should be - What leader empowers the people the most?

capricorn · May 23, 2009

Trudeau is usually the run away leader for best prime minister. I know some people have a hard time believing that but it is what the polls have said the last few years.

Yeah, according to a Toronto Star online poll, PET's number one.

Pierre Trudeau is considered far and away the best prime minister Canada has seen in the past four decades.
Nearly 40 per cent of Canadians accord him that honour, according to a new Toronto Star/Angus Reid Strategies online survey.

Trudeau has maintained the upper hand on this question since 2007.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/article/639152

In spite of not winning a majority, Harper scored second, ahead of Chretien and Mulroney.

Coming in a distant second is Prime Minister Stephen Harper, at 11 per cent.
Jean Chrétien is third at 9 per cent and Brian Mulroney is next at 8 per cent.

Oleg Bach · May 23, 2009

Old school conservatives used to refere to Trudeau as "the shark" that never sleeps - the preditor - to him the whole world was his personal experiment...as for that Karisma thing - he had the hand shake of a corpse..and was an ugly little man...Canada was insane during his era.

jdobbin · May 23, 2009

Yeah, according to a Toronto Star online poll, PET's number one.

It wasn't a reader call in poll.

It was an Angus Reid poll. In the last election they had the most accurate prediction of the election result.

In spite of not winning a majority, Harper scored second, ahead of Chretien and Mulroney.

True. It probably doesn't help that Mulroney and Harper were the primaries in judicial inquiries.

Harper should hope that he doesn't end that way either with the court case on "in and out."

Oleg Bach · May 24, 2009

PET was not even capable of protecting and husbanding his own wife - who used to dash off and snort coke with entertainers -- he was wormish in his approach to heterosexuality....he lacked a thing called manhood.

Smallc · May 24, 2009

And yet, if Chretien were to helm the Liberals today, he would probably win an election...easily.

jdobbin · May 24, 2009

PET was not even capable of protecting and husbanding his own wife - who used to dash off and snort coke with entertainers -- he was wormish in his approach to heterosexuality....he lacked a thing called manhood.

How did you exhibit manhood all your life? Didn't your wife get you in trouble with the police?

Keepitsimple · May 24, 2009

When I was young, I voted for Trudeau. In retrospect, I now know that the man damaged Canada to an extent that we are still trying to recover. All that said, I have to acknowledge that in any poll I've seen, he comes out ahead as Canada's best Prime Minister - or maybe it's the most famous Prime Minister. He was certainly controversial and polarizing but I can't deny that a lot of people liked him.

Smallc · May 24, 2009

And not everyone thinks that he was damaging overall either. It's all a matter or prospective.

Oleg Bach · May 24, 2009

When I was young, I voted for Trudeau. In retrospect, I now know that the man damaged Canada to an extent that we are still trying to recover. All that said, I have to acknowledge that in any poll I've seen, he comes out ahead as Canada's best Prime Minister - or maybe it's the most famous Prime Minister. He was certainly controversial and polarizing but I can't deny that a lot of people liked him.

What was to like about him - perhaps he appeared to be a rebel - and we all admire rebels---but - you can not be a rebel and be PM - it's like attacking yourself and the institutions you are supposed to uphold and preserve- not destroy...Big deal - so he rode around with a Nazi helmut...and he would give the finger making himself the signator to a message that said F off Canada..why did the Canadian people cuddle up to what was their abuser?

Jerry J. Fortin · May 24, 2009

What was to like about him - perhaps he appeared to be a rebel - and we all admire rebels---but - you can not be a rebel and be PM - it's like attacking yourself and the institutions you are supposed to uphold and preserve- not destroy...Big deal - so he rode around with a Nazi helmut...and he would give the finger making himself the signator to a message that said F off Canada..why did the Canadian people cuddle up to what was their abuser?

Trudeau was both good and bad for this nation, as are most Prime Ministers. What he did in political terms was convert us into a multi-cultural nation. That is the legacy of his terms of office. Nearly everything he did worked toward that end game. His goal was to unite both of our recognized heritages into a single unified entity, in this I believe he succeeded. What he failed to do was incorporate the First Nations into the equation and that has had some very real lasting consequences, it was a serious error on his part. One for which we will ultimately pay dearly for.

A serious nation building politician would embrace the concept and run with that ball. We do need a new direction and that one is as good as any. Tag a "green" label to it and capture another demographic. Slip a technological perspective on top of it with a economic development plan and you have a winning platform that appeals to nearly every single demographic without the appearance of indulgence or bias toward any single group.

Yet our politicians seem bent on self development and quests for power and control instead of what is best for the nation. There are so many areas where this nation needs to focus that it boggles the imagination. A functional platform that unifies instead of divides the partisan factions is what is needed. All of our social programs need work, our judicial system needs work, our military needs work, the entire system needs work! The question is how to get the job done, and I will suggest that the way to do it is to first bring the citizens together by creating an iconic type of political platform that transcends partisan politics. That would be the foundation from which many things could be done. A political platform that is idealistic in nature, yet achievable through non-partisan means. This nation needs a political vision that is supported with a national will, nothing else will do.

jbg · May 26, 2009

Why would they not? She is a non political leader of this country that is bound to do what is in it's best interests. I certainly trust her...and I certainly trust the Governor General as well.

I can see trusting the Queen. But a separatist Haitian, non-Canadian traitor married to a firebrand separatist?

waldo · May 26, 2009

I can see trusting the Queen. But a separatist Haitian, non-Canadian traitor married to a firebrand separatist?

ah ha... le agent provocateur!

ordinarily, most would ignore your shite... since you must be feeling particularly bold you won't mind substantiating your assertions. Start with current citizenship, renounced citizenship & personal statements made... don't forget to itemize the separatist details, particularly those that have been previously soundly trashed. Thanks in advance.

Radsickle · May 27, 2009

I can see trusting the Queen. But a separatist Haitian, non-Canadian traitor married to a firebrand separatist?

That firebrand Haitian-Canadian just put her neck out for Canada, many Canadians, and our sealing industry.

Screw the Queen.

jbg · May 27, 2009

ah ha... le agent provocateur!
ordinarily, most would ignore your shite... since you must be feeling particularly bold you won't mind substantiating your assertions.

I am not going to lower myself to the rude tone of your post.

It is sufficient to note who she sleeps in bed with. 'Nuff said.

jbg · May 27, 2009

That firebrand Haitian-Canadian just put her neck out for Canada, many Canadians, and our sealing industry.

Yes, in fact CBC, on "This Hour Has 24 Minutes" reported that she saved Saskatchewan's sealing industry.

Radsickle · May 27, 2009

Yes, in fact CBC, on "This Hour Has 24 Minutes" reported that she saved Saskatchewan's sealing industry.

Dude.... post a link to that episode... cause they're between seasons right now and not on TV...

It would be funny though... haha... Saskatchewan's sealing industry.... haha... are you sure you're not confusing an old Rick Mercer joke with your infantile sarcasm?

bush_cheney2004 · May 27, 2009

It's still funny.....

Barbara Slee, an anti-seal hunt campaigner at the International Fund for Animal Welfare in Brussels, said she was disgusted by Jean's actions.

"The fact that the Governor General in public is slashing and eating a seal, I don't think that really helps the cause, and I'm convinced that this will not change the mind of European citizens and politicians," Slee told The Associated Press.

"It amazes us that a Canadian official would indulge in such bloodlust," Dan Mathews, senior vice-president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, told the Toronto Star.

"It sounds like she's trying to give Canadians an even more Neanderthal image around the world than they already have."

http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/05/26/jean-seal.html

Radsickle · May 27, 2009

It's still funny.....

Barbara Slee, an anti-seal hunt campaigner at the International Fund for Animal Welfare in Brussels, said she was disgusted by Jean's actions.

"The fact that the Governor General in public is slashing and eating a seal, I don't think that really helps the cause, and I'm convinced that this will not change the mind of European citizens and politicians," Slee told The Associated Press.

"It amazes us that a Canadian official would indulge in such bloodlust," Dan Mathews, senior vice-president of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, told the Toronto Star.

"It sounds like she's trying to give Canadians an even more Neanderthal image around the world than they already have."

Good. Maybe we won't be confused with recent American advances like torturing humans.

Edited May 27, 2009 by Radsickle

bush_cheney2004 · May 27, 2009

Good. Maybe we won't be confused with recent American advances like torturing humans.

Pinnipeds are protected species in the USA, except for native subsistence living. Our head of state is not allowed to bop them on the head with a club and rip their still beating hearts out on national television like an Inca sacrifice.

Humans are not so protected.

Edited May 27, 2009 by bush_cheney2004

Oleg Bach · May 27, 2009

Pinnipeds are protected species in the USA, except for native subsistence living. Our head of state is not allowed to bop them on the head with a club and rip their still beating hearts out on national television like an Inca sacrifice.
Humans are not so protected.

The GG - seems to pander desperately to keep her position at all cost..what's next - visiting some primative tribe or a mental hospital where a lunitic eats his own feces --- and she swallows a terd and tell us it delicious? Give me a break! The GG reminds me of a person who will do anything and say anything to maintain her sytems granted human glory...eat this GG ----good hugh? :lol: