Nova Scotia Election Poll

Topaz · June 10, 2009

Good for the NDP! Now if they do a better job than the Tories it will help people to think about the Fed.NDP! I wonder if Nova Scotia will still get the money for the highway that Harper made of big deal about??

madmax · June 10, 2009

Well, I got this one part wrong. Infact, I kinda thought the people who suggested an NDP Majority government were freeping the poll.

MLW pundits, get another feather in cap.

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

Considering 80% of NDP donations come from real people, while only 45% of the Liberals do I think they will be in big trouble. Although they do have those millions in kick backs they got in the 70 and 80' from the tolls and liquor stores it might take a while.

You somehow think they have money in the bank that they got 20 years ago that they didn't spend?

I know the NDP believes that if the cut corporate and union donations that they will come out on top in fundraising but I think it is now being seen on the federal front that Conservatives are much better at it and the Liberals have made some huge improvements since the beginning of May.

punked · June 10, 2009

You somehow think they have money in the bank that they got 20 years ago that they didn't spend?
I know the NDP believes that if the cut corporate and union donations that they will come out on top in fundraising but I think it is now being seen on the federal front that Conservatives are much better at it and the Liberals have made some huge improvements since the beginning of May.

Considering it was 10's of millions of dollars yes I do think they still have the money Geoff Reagan's Dad stole from the People of NS. I also know in NS the NDP raised over 300 000 from people, while the Liberals it was around 50 000. So I don't think you understand NS politics very well when you say these things.

Edited June 10, 2009 by punked

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

Considering it was 10's of millions of dollars yes I do think they still have the money Geoff Reagan's Dad stole from the People of NS. I also know in NS the NDP raised over 300 000 from people, while the Liberals it was around 50 000. So I don't think you understand NS politics very well when you say these things.

I am speaking in regards to the whole country when it comes to fundraising. The idea that the NDP are the only ones who can raise small donations is just not true.

The Liberals certainly don't have that money now in the coffers in Nova Scotia. I think you would have seen some of that hidden money appear in one of the last number of elections, don't you? What are they waiting for?

Edited June 10, 2009 by jdobbin

punked · June 10, 2009

I am speaking in regards to the whole country when it comes to fundraising. The idea that the NDP are the only ones who can raise small donations is just not true.
The Liberals certainly don't have that money now in the coffers in Nova Scotia. I think you would have seen some of that hidden money appear in one of the last number of elections, don't you? What are they waiting for?

See the Judge ruled when the Liberals went to court with Elections NS over that money they stole from us on those Kickbacks the Liberals can spend their slush fund anytime accept during an election. Which means they spend their slush fund outside of elections and launder it then.They then use their fund raising, and whatever money they could launder during the election. Seriously this should not be a surprise in NS it is how they can do no fund raising and still run with the two parties who raise money. Everyone knows about Geoff Regan's Dad doing this, along with his sexual assaults while premier.

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

See the Judge ruled when the Liberals went to court with Elections NS over that money they stole from us on those Kickbacks the Liberals can spend their slush fund anytime accept during an election. Which means they spend their slush fund outside of elections and launder it then.They then use their fund raising, and whatever money they could launder during the election. Seriously this should not be a surprise in NS it is how they can do no fund raising and still run with the two parties who raise money. Everyone knows about Geoff Regan's Dad doing this, along with his sexual assaults while premier.

If this is all true then I'm sure the NDP will call an inquiry and the RCMP and have all the Liberal MLAs, the central office and all the members of the exec arrested.

punked · June 10, 2009

If this is all true then I'm sure the NDP will call an inquiry and the RCMP and have all the Liberal MLAs, the central office and all the members of the exec arrested.

Why it already went to court? Seriously in the 90's the judge ruled that any money with out a paper trail could not have been proven to be ill gotten but probably was, which was almost all of it could be kept by the Liberal party and they could spend the money anytime outside the election. However almost all Nova Scotian's know where those millions and millions in the Liberal bank accounts came from. They from illegal liquor store kick backs, it is half the reason we kicked them out of office in the 90's and they never have rebuild. It is also why while McNeil was screaming for the NDP to open their books but the Liberals would do no such thing. This NS politics and has been for a long time which was many of us are glade to see the NDP in becuase they did with out Old boys approach that still runs through the Liberals in NS.

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

Why it already went to court? Seriously in the 90's the judge ruled that any money with out a paper trail could not have been proven to be ill gotten but probably was, which was almost all of it could be kept by the Liberal party and they could spend the money anytime outside the election. However almost all Nova Scotian's know where those millions and millions in the Liberal bank accounts came from. They from illegal liquor store kick backs, it is half the reason we kicked them out of office in the 90's and they never have rebuild. It is also why while McNeil was screaming for the NDP to open their books but the Liberals would do no such thing. This NS politics and has been for a long time which was many of us are glade to see the NDP in becuase they did with out Old boys approach that still runs through the Liberals in NS.

Well, you are saying the money is still being used illegally and running it through the party now would constitute a paper trail. The NDP government should investigate this and go after the Liberal party.

punked · June 10, 2009

Well, you are saying the money is still being used illegally and running it through the party now would constitute a paper trail. The NDP government should investigate this and go after the Liberal party.

What are you talking about? Of course it is still running through the party. The problem is no one can prove where that money came from, all we know is in the 70's and 80's the Liberal party got 10 cents on every bottle of booze sold. They were force to give back millions but no one could prove how much they made off the deal becuase their was no paper trail. They were left with 10-20 million (that they didn't have before the Liqour kick back started) which they aren't allowed to spend during elections but can spend at any other time. Seriously look into, the Liberal party in PEI and NB was also busted for the same scam.

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

What are you talking about? Of course it is still running through the party. The problem is no one can prove where that money came from, all we know is in the 70's and 80's the Liberal party got 10 cents on every bottle of booze sold. They were force to give back millions but no one could prove how much they made off the deal becuase their was no paper trail. They were left with 10-20 million (that they didn't have before the Liqour kick back started) which they aren't allowed to spend during elections but can spend at any other time. Seriously look into, the Liberal party in PEI and NB was also busted for the same scam.

Proving it should be easy if an inquiry is called now. Follow the money. Make arrests. No use saying it is impossible since a good forensic audit will reveal what happened.

As for election scams and financing, the NDP in Manitoba are going through their own problems now. It remains to be seen whether it will be the undoing of Doer.

punked · June 10, 2009

Proving it should be easy if an inquiry is called now. Follow the money. Make arrests. No use saying it is impossible since a good forensic audit will reveal what happened.
As for election scams and financing, the NDP in Manitoba are going through their own problems now. It remains to be seen whether it will be the undoing of Doer.

They did that? What aren't you getting about this scam, their is no paper trail it occurred in the 70 and 80's. It is a fact I am not making this up. Just like a Liberal to not live up to his parties scams. No one in the party would talk and their was no paper trail but everyone in NS knows about the Slush fund and where that money came from.

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Alta4ever · June 10, 2009

Good for the NDP! Now if they do a better job than the Tories it will help people to think about the Fed.NDP! I wonder if Nova Scotia will still get the money for the highway that Harper made of big deal about??

There is not a province in this country that voted for an NDP provincial government that wasn't run into the ground by that same government.

Smallc · June 10, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba

punked · June 10, 2009

There is not a province in this country that voted for an NDP provincial government that wasn't run into the ground by that same government.

The NDP balanced Budgets 52% the conservative 45% and the Liberals 31%.

Alta4ever · June 10, 2009

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitoba

What exactly is it you are giving then Man NDP credit for? Mostg if not all of the major industries in Manitoba were started by or regulated by the federal government.

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

They did that? What aren't you getting about this scam, their is no paper trail it occurred in the 70 and 80's. It is a fact I am not making this up. Just like a Liberal to not live up to his parties scams. No one in the party would talk and their was no paper trail but everyone in NS knows about the Slush fund and where that money came from.

You say everyone knows and if money is being funnelled into the system now, it is easy to follow from where. It isn't a question of Liberals talking. It is a question of following the money. You're saying that the government has no way of tracking who is donating now?

As for the NDP in Manitoba, they changed election financing forms after their official agents submitted them. In the end, it was a violation of the election act.

Edited June 10, 2009 by jdobbin

jdobbin · June 10, 2009

Mostg if not all of the major industries in Manitoba were started by or regulated by the federal government.

I have no idea what you are saying here.

Smallc · June 10, 2009

As for the NDP in Manitoba, they changed election financing forms after their official agents submitted them. In the end, it was a violation of the election act.

Although it wasn't know by almost anyone at the time. Elections Manitoba didn't seem to consider it as much more than a mistake.....unlike the way they felt about the PCs in 95.

Smallc · June 10, 2009

Most if not all of the major industries in Manitoba were started by or regulated by the federal government.

What? Gary Doer has been the Premier for 10 years, and it will be sad to see him go (probably not long into the future). He has done extremely well for this province, growing the economy and allowing it to avoid recession. Healthcare has improved, infrastructure is getting better, and we are doing well as a province.

madmax · June 10, 2009

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punked · June 11, 2009

You say everyone knows and if money is being funnelled into the system now, it is easy to follow from where. It isn't a question of Liberals talking. It is a question of following the money. You're saying that the government has no way of tracking who is donating now?
As for the NDP in Manitoba, they changed election financing forms after their official agents submitted them. In the end, it was a violation of the election act.

No I am saying it is now perfectly legal for the Liberals to spend their ill gotten slush fund. That does not make it right, although if we get rid of cooperate donations they will run through their slush fund much quicker in this province.

Oleg Bach · June 11, 2009

You go after what they love - their money of course - you bleed them and force them to spend - once the hemmoraging stops - you man not have won - but you will leave them in pain...Liberals come from the new rich stock - and money is their god - old conservatives do not care for money as much - because they are god... :lol:

jdobbin · June 11, 2009

No I am saying it is now perfectly legal for the Liberals to spend their ill gotten slush fund. That does not make it right, although if we get rid of cooperate donations they will run through their slush fund much quicker in this province.

Or they will reform their fundraising as other provincial Liberal and the federal Liberals have done.

jdobbin · June 11, 2009

Although it wasn't know by almost anyone at the time. Elections Manitoba didn't seem to consider it as much more than a mistake.....unlike the way they felt about the PCs in 95.

I certainly am left wondering about that.