lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 ... that we all know you to be a racist. again: DEFINE "RACIST"! stop evading you duck and cover coward! Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Sir Bandelot Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 since when are words substantially equivalent to assault causing bodily harm? in what planet do yo live? Words can cause psychological damage that lasts a long time. I've seen people in the workplace get a nervous breakdown, when they are bullied constantly by the my a-hole of a boss. He doesn't hit anyone though. But he will not stop. Even his kid was institutionalized, for a while. You think words are harmless, because your a bleeding ass liberal who wants freedom of speech, without responsibility. But in my corner, we teach respect. You want to call me out, act like a jackass, I'm gonna make you suffer. Because some people are too stupid to learn respect any other way. And I believe, they truly need that... you whip a dogs ass it won't come back barkin And bullying and school metal detectors and shootingsn didn't happen before "diversity" happened... which is why this little incident occurred. Not sure why you think that. I read about a lotta white boys been doin the shooting too. See, your problem is you complain about political correctness, about granting equality to other cultures but then you want to hide behind that political correctness to mouth off your prejudiced views about them. Well you can't have it both ways dude. You make no sense Quote
CANADIEN Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 no it wasn't if you can read... words of hatred have no place in society? even if the words advocate killing nasty "racists" or fascists? Lol judging by your extreme hatred of Politically Incorrect people, and your clear promotion of hatred and stereotyping of people who don't share your opinions on certain matters ... you clearly don't believe that. Let's be clear hear. I don't hate you. I despise you, and I pity you, but I don't hate you. lemme guess... yeah you're a hypocrite.. Me kettle, put black There was no advocacy of murder: just a racial epithet... if you think that calling someone a racist name is equivalent to assault then the conversation is over: Once again, your intellectual dishonest it work you are simply an overheated hate filled bloodthirsty bigot that is incapable of rational cognition. My opinion of you, actually. Quote
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Words can cause psychological damage that lasts a long time. I've seen people in the workplace get a nervous breakdown, when they are bullied constantly by the my a-hole of a boss. He doesn't hit anyone though. But he will not stop. Even his kid was institutionalized, for a while. You think words are harmless, because your a bleeding ass liberal who wants freedom of speech, without responsibility. But in my corner, we teach respect. You want to call me out, act like a jackass, I'm gonna make you suffer. Because some people are too stupid to learn respect any other way. And I believe, they truly need that... you whip a dogs ass it won't come back barkinNot sure why you think that. I read about a lotta white boys been doin the shooting too. See, your problem is you complain about political correctness, about granting equality to other cultures but then you want to hide behind that political correctness to mouth off your prejudiced views about them. Well you can't have it both ways dude. You make no sense Psychological harm... omg.... that's pretty lofty. If a boss invites an employee to severely criticize his work, that too may cause psychological harm... or as some blacks would call it "mental anguishes"- but who would dream to think that it was even APPROACHABLE to actual physical violence (in this case assault) causing bodily harm? And I'm a liberal - jeez your perceptive... I'm about as right wing as one can be... I see liberalism as a disease of the mind... Freedom of Speech has no relationship with "responsibility"... If I say I don,t believe in creationism and despise the bible, that might make a few fundamentalist christians kill me... but who would dream to think that I should be ready to be killed for speaking my mind because it might piss a few loners off? There have been more school shootings in canada since the middle of the clinton era then in the whole prior history of Canada... that's what I mean by that... oddly enough as "diversity" increases in out schools. hide behind political correctness? nothing I say is politically correct in the orthodox way... how old are you? 13 ? you seem pretty lost.. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Let's be clear hear. I don't hate you. I despise you, and I pity you, but I don't hate you.Me kettle, put black Once again, your intellectual dishonest it work My opinion of you, actually. again, cowardice... avoidance and ad hominems... g'head: define RACIST... please .. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 again, cowardice... avoidance and ad hominems... g'head: define RACIST... please .. A positive racist is someone who puts family and extended family first--- if we protect our own homes - families and finacial interests - we are now considered racists... there are a lot of successful familiar cultures that are racist - as we are programmed to be disloyal to family and nation (extended family) the poorer and more powerless we become - and eventually we are no more. Quote
Sir Bandelot Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 I'm about as right wing as one can be... I see liberalism as a disease of the mind... Freedom of Speech has no relationship with "responsibility"... Thats liberalism. There have been more school shootings in canada since the middle of the clinton era then in the whole prior history of Canada... that's what I mean by that... oddly enough as "diversity" increases in out schools. Thats racism. hide behind political correctness? nothing I say is politically correct in the orthodox way You got that part right, but you insist on your rights to say anything you want, anytime you want. Being a self-declared right winger does not preclude you from having a diseased liberal mind. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Law! Who ever smashed the nose has to pay for that nose - I don't give a damn what shade and culture they are. Quote
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Thats liberalism.Thats racism. You got that part right, but you insist on your rights to say anything you want, anytime you want. Being a self-declared right winger does not preclude you from having a diseased liberal mind. Are you drunk? Citing the fact that there have been more school shootings in canada since 1994 (as the schools "diversify" and student alienation skyrockets) is racist? I thought you called me a liberal&! ahahaha stfu ! And silly-pants: FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER YOUR CONSCIENCE DICTATES WITHOUT CENSORSHIP OR THREAT OF VIOLENCE. And liberals agree with you: after all they are the ones who concocted the "hate speech laws" and other clearly anti freedom of speech legislation... the "right" to not feel bad or "to be hurt by words" or not to be insulted is a COMPLETELY liberal concept ... it has no validity in an atmosphere of complete freedom of speech and intellectual freedom. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Sir Bandelot Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Are you drunk? Citing the fact that there have been more school shootings in canada since 1994 (as the schools "diversify" and student alienation skyrockets) is racist? I thought you called me a liberal&! ahahaha stfu ! And silly-pants: FREEDOM OF SPEECH IS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER YOUR CONSCIENCE DICTATES WITHOUT CENSORSHIP OR THREAT OF VIOLENCE. And liberals agree with you: after all they are the ones who concocted the "hate speech laws" and other clearly anti freedom of speech legislation... the "right" to not feel bad or "to be hurt by words" or not to be insulted is a COMPLETELY liberal concept ... it has no validity in an atmosphere of complete freedom of speech and intellectual freedom. Exactly, which is why you are a closet liberal, sadly you don't even know it. Hey I went to school in Toronto in the 1970's, we had black and asian students in the classroom then. No one thought it was abnormal. (Except, maybe, your Dad). Despite that, there were no school shootings then. I wonder whats with that? Since in your view this came about as a consequence of diversity... Edited May 12, 2009 by Sir Bandelot Quote
Oleg Bach Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 I can not say what is true...go into any institution and speak the truth...try it - speak your mind - without having to carefully choose every word because of fear - most are afraid to speak their mind - so that pretty much gets rid of the idea that we have free speech - If I was to say what I really knew and thought of somethings - I would be detained and dispersed - incrimentally and legally destroyed. All of us are in that postion - politicals - professionals - and common street people - no one has a right to speak their mind...free speech is a joke - I saw a judge once become red faced - with his veins bulging out and he said one thing to me -----"NO - you can not speak..shut up" - I saw this more than once - Because they knew I had figured out the game - that they were liars. Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Are you drunk? Citing the fact that there have been more school shootings in canada since 1994 (as the schools "diversify" and student alienation skyrockets) is racist? Did you cite facts? I don't think so. Since 1994 there have been 4 school shootings in Canada...prior to 1994 there were four... Since 1994 there have been 3 victims..prior to 1994 there have been 21 victims. As we have seen from your past idiotic clangers, facts are not your friends.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) Did you cite facts? I don't think so. Since 1994 there have been 4 school shootings in Canada...prior to 1994 there were four... Since 1994 there have been 3 victims..prior to 1994 there have been 21 victims. As we have seen from your past idiotic clangers, facts are not your friends.... Well prior to 1975 (some time after the hippy revolution in canada) there were ZERO school shootings in recorded history.. oddly enough when canada was just a boring stuffy intolerant and white nation. But the school shootings, are indeed the product of alienation... and alienation is a inevitable part of being in a country with no identity and cultural relativism. Alienation is a inevitable part of diversity. School Shootings are for all practical purposes a very recent development. And the worst ones in recent memory were committed by our sacrosanct minority people... Marc Lépine (aka: Gamil Gharbi- mongrel son of an Islamic misogynist) and Kimvheer Gill a Dravidian pest. so thank you for this latest bit of fraudulent obfuscation Dancer. Edited May 12, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
Oleg Bach Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Well prior to 1975 (some time after the hippy revolution in canada) there were ZERO school shootings in recorded history.. oddly enough when canada was just a boring stuffy intolerant and white nation. But the school shootings, are indeed the product of alienation... and alienation is a inevitable part of being in a country with no identity and cultural relativism. Alienation is a inevitable part of diversity. School Shootings are for all practical purposes a very recent development. And the worst ones in recent memory were committed by our sacrosanct minority people... Marc Lépine (aka: Gamil Gharbi- mongrel son of an Islamic misogynist) and Kimvheer Gill a Dravidian pest. so thank you for this latest bit of fraudulent obfuscation Dancer. Speaking of school shootings - Had a meeting yesterday with a couple of social workers - one was a finacial administrator - we got on to the topic of youth violence...she mentioned the Columbine incident - she stated - regarding the shooters "The poor boys were bullied and push around and just could not take the abuse anylonger" - What a liberal lunitic nut we have in our govnermental bureacracy - this old lady was attempting to justify a mass murder - and to think these people are in charge of our less privlidged youth - maybe she should teach her wards "thou shall not kill" - but that would be politically incorrect.. Quote
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 so thank you for this latest bit of fraudulent obfuscation Dancer. Proving you wrong is not obfuscation....unless you meant to say, ignore what I post, concentrate on my message... But the school shootings, are indeed the product of alienation... and alienation is a inevitable part of being in a country with no identity and cultural relativism. More nonsense. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Proving you wrong is not obfuscation....unless you meant to say, ignore what I post, concentrate on my message...More nonsense. The obfuscation was about another poster claiming that mentioning that the dramatic increase in school shootings recently is "racism". My point was that we have seen all of our school shootings AFTER hippy liberalism (and racial egalitarianism and cultural relativism) became the dominant dogma of our country (circa 1965).,.. and that is very much an indisputable fact. Quibbling over shootings in 1989 and 1994 ... is pretty superfluous to the argument. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 There have been more school shootings in canada since the middle of the clinton era then in the whole prior history of Canada... that's what I mean by that... oddly enough as "diversity" increases in out schools. Your argument.....which of course is false. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Your argument.....which of course is false. again: mere rejection out of hand.. the rise of suicide rates among the young also corroborate the alienation felt by our children. of course that's why classroom diversity has lead to huge school efforts to "bridge gaps" and try to foster a better sense of community with interfaith, intercultural and interracial "dialogue"... (Smith, D. G. The Challenge of Diversity: Involvement or Alienation in the Academy? Report No. 5. Washington, D. C.: School of Education and Human Development, The George Washington University, 1989. ) Alienation is the primary side effect of diversity. People who live in a homogeneous society, where the people they work with and interact with every day are similar to them - that is, look similar, have similar values and attitudes, react in similar ways to events -- people in a homogeneous society tend to bond with the people around them. They tend to feel a sense of community. They tend to feel a sense of security from having people like them around them. They seek the approval of the people with whom they have bonded. They feel a sense of responsibility and protectiveness toward these people. Take away the homogeneity, and you greatly reduce the likelihood of bonding. Instead of a community you have simply a collection of individuals, and each of those individuals is thinking, at least at a subconscious level, "It's every man for himself." Without homogeneity you no longer have a common set of shared values. Antisocial behavior goes way up: schoolyard shootings and drug usage, for example. Neurotic and psychotic behavior goes way up too. Without homogeneity the individuals in the society have a weaker sense of identity- you know and I know Dancer that candian identity has come to mean nothing but a set of empty clichés-, canadians have a weaker sense of who they are and of what they belong to. They're much less likely to find positive role models among the real people around them: among their teachers and neighbors and community leaders. They're much less likely to have constructive goals or to lead purposeful and useful lives. You know this and I know this... what does it even mean to be Canadian anymore... so much for identity and cohesiveness.. no wonder alienation is on the rise. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Alienation is the primary side effect of diversity. That is of course, more nonsense. Not even worth addressing. You might as well say alienation is the primary effect of global warming....both are demostratably false. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 That is of course, more nonsense. Not even worth addressing. You might as well say alienation is the primary effect of global warming....both are demostratably false. Social alienation, is a phenomenon where the individual is estranged from his community, society, or world. What causes it? Primarily it stems from a feeling of UNRELATEDNESS... of incompatibility of lack of community of interests or characteristics.. The very NATURE of diversity is rooted in this dissimilarity and lack of relationship and point of commonality... THAT'S DIVERSITY: diversity is dissimilarity and difference. So actually by elementary definition Diversity of the kind which canadians are forced to celebrate (almost at gun point) is this very sort of phenomenon. It is not only easily demonstrable but IMPLICIT in the dogma of diversity... how can say: a French Canadian catholic raised child from a working class family have any profound sense of relatedness and commonality with a Sikh student in ceremonial garb... the French Canadian will feel estrangement... he will not understand the Sikh and naturally will be ALIENATED in such an environment. The phenomenon furthermore is demonstrated by the white flight phenomenon as well as the ghettoization of ethnic community... if you look at any ethnic area you'll notice that people self segregate: hence "Brown Town" in Toronto, Montreal "NOIRE" in the north of montreal etc... far from having no validity, its actually universal the world OVER. Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Not even worth the effort to address....I dismiss it out of hand. Alienation has been a theme in literature, film etc ect long before the crazed right and their collective paranoia over diversity even existed.....the attempt to find a correlation between the two is laughbale at best. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 Not even worth the effort to address....I dismiss it out of hand. Alienation has been a theme in literature, film etc ect long before the crazed right and their collective paranoia over diversity even existed.....the attempt to find a correlation between the two is laughbale at best. you're laughable at best my friend... a total clown... I'm living refutation of you non-argument: we have diverging opinions on certain matters: and look at how completely estranged you are by me and I of you... We have diversity of political opinions and look at the chasm of distance that creates... add to that mix racial, religious and cultural gaps and you have a pretty big problem in terms of solidarity and group commonality and cohesiveness. I'd as soon see me having a BBQ with communists then with you... and (I assume) you feel about the same... our ideological diversity is a source of distance between us (and rightly so). keep posturing in a vacuum of your own making though... Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 you're laughable at best my friend... a total clown... I'm living refutation of you non-argument: we have diverging opinions on certain matters: and look at how completely estranged you are by me and I of you... We have diversity of political opinions and look at the chasm of distance that creates... add to that mix racial, religious and cultural gaps and you have a pretty big problem in terms of solidarity and group commonality and cohesiveness. I'd as soon see me having a BBQ with communists then with you... and (I assume) you feel about the same... our ideological diversity is a source of distance between us (and rightly so). keep posturing in a vacuum of your own making though... It's amazing how many times you can be in error in one post.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
lictor616 Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 (edited) It's amazing how many times you can be in error in one post.... its amazing how your posts have words in them that don't convey any meaning... but either way you refuse to enter into debate... strange isn't it? I love that though... the "i could mop the floor with you in an argument but- I won't because i'm too important" argument... a ptiful capitulation Dancer.. Now tell how is our ideological diversity a source of community and commonality and relatedness between you and I (because as you say diversity has NO LINK with alienation) ... so please explain (lol if you dare) Edited May 12, 2009 by lictor616 Quote -Magna Europa Est Patria Nostra-
M.Dancer Posted May 12, 2009 Report Posted May 12, 2009 its amazing how your posts have words in them that don't convey any meaning... but either way you refuse to enter into debate... strange isn't it? I think I made it clear but for some reason you seem to forget....I don't debate your kind. Feel priviledged I lower myself to correct your half truths , highlight your lies and point fingers at your idiocies... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
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