Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 In your opinion of course. I know of nowhere that it says that the government can't provide such services. Why are you and the rest of canadians incapable of doing anythig for yourselves? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Why are you and the rest of Canadians incapable of doing anythig for yourselves? I have no problem doing things for myself. That doesn't mean I shouldn't have a place to go for help if necessary. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I have no problem doing things for myself. That doesn't mean I shouldn't have a place to go for help if necessary. So you need help looking through want ads? Loging onto monster or workopolis? Even better yet how about taking you resume to prespective employers, why is that you seem to think we need a governement ministery to find people work? Are canadians too stupid to figure this out for themselves, do you really need the government to tell you how to conduct your life, are you incapable of thinking and doing things for yourselves? I have a problem, should I solve it heck no, better have the government solve it becuase you the average person always makes the wrong choice. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
madmax Posted March 11, 2009 Author Report Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) I have no problem doing things for myself. That doesn't mean I shouldn't have a place to go for help if necessary. Some people will say anything to shift the topic off of the minister responsible. Some people want to ignore that employers and employees paid into a system that raised $56 Billion dollars in Surpluses. Edited March 11, 2009 by madmax Quote
jdobbin Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I have a problem, should I solve it heck no, better have the government solve it becuase you the average person always makes the wrong choice. I do have problems with ministers who have departments that are not functioning well and shrug their shoulders about it. Fix it. Somehow. Stop wasting time and money and do your job. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Some people will say anything to shift the topic off of the minister responsible. Some people want to ignore that employers and employees paid into a system that raised $56 Billion dollars in Surpluses. Beleive me I don't ignore the system that is nothing but a tax. I want to see it either made an optional form of a real insurance product or even better yet elminated. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 I do have problems with ministers who have departments that are not functioning well and shrug their shoulders about it. Fix it. Somehow. Stop wasting time and money and do your job. How about we fire her, the ministry and all those employed by the government who work in the ei deptartment, and get rid of another crap liberal program. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) How about we fire her, the ministry and all those employed by the government who work in the ei deptartment, and get rid of another crap liberal program. Do it if you really believe in it. And if the Tories don't do it, stop defending them for mismanaging what is there now. They are the government. Time to start acting like it. Edited March 11, 2009 by jdobbin Quote
Smallc Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Are Canadians too stupid to figure this out for themselves? People are all different, and some need more help than others. Not everything (in fact, almost nothing) is black and white. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 (edited) Do it if you really believe in it. And if the Tories don't do it, stop defending them for mismanaging what is there now. They are the government. Time to start acting like it. Really the liberals did such a superior job what was 13 years of the absolute worst goventment in history? Prioir to that 2 terms of Mulrooney crap. Prior to that the worst Prime Minister the world had ever seen. Yep I'd rather have this mismanagement then liberal mismanagement. Yes I did call mulrooney a liberal. Edited March 11, 2009 by Alta4ever Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 what was 13 years of the absolute worst government in history? It was? Really? Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 People are all different, and some need more help than others. Not everything (in fact, almost nothing) is black and white. Why is it that the government is the one that must help them? Head hunting companies exist, they can go their for help. Why is it that the only solution in todays world is to have the government look after it? When have you ever seen a government that hasn't been mismanaged and cost the tax payers much more then promised? When will people learn government does not equal solution, it always equals more problems. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Smallc Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 When will people learn government does not equal solution, it always equals more problems. Are you ever happy with anything? Like seriously? Is any conservative ever happy with anything? Especially anything the government does? It seems like everyone on the right is always angry about something. Quote
guyser Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Why is it that the government is the one that must help them? It isnt. But with programmes that exist w govt funds, the govt is better able to keep track of progress. For instance, students with disablities, the employer gets a subsidy, they also post on the job board provided by the govt. Makes sense. Head hunting companies exist, they can go their for help. Specialty only. They dont exist for many lower paying jobs. Those are called employment centres. Why is it that the only solution in todays world is to have the government look after it? Its not. You should stop thinking that way. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Are you ever happy with anything? Like seriously? Is any conservative ever happy with anything? Especially anything the government does? It seems like everyone on the right is always angry about something. I am quite a happy fellow. I just don't like government intervention. I was very happy in November when Harper had annouced that some of the taxpayer funding would be taken away from political parties. It was a step in the right direction. That wuld have ment only to more public revenue streams to political parties to get rid of. I was very happy with the idea to reduce arts funding too bad that went under the bus. I am a very happy guy when government isn't wasting my hard earned tax dollars. But witht the welfare socialist state this country has become their is precious little that isn't wasted anymore. We need to go back to the idea of personal responsibility. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
guyser Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Is any conservative ever happy with anything? Especially anything the government does? It seems like everyone on the right is always angry about something. Well they do subscribe to more porn sites than liberals do, so they cant be all unhappy, they do have 10 minutes of fun each day. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Well they do subscribe to more porn sites than liberals do, so they cant be all unhappy, they do have 10 minutes of fun each day. Thats an interesting stat, seriously were did you find. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
guyser Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 Thats an interesting stat, seriously were did you find. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....showtopic=13576 Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 11, 2009 Report Posted March 11, 2009 http://www.mapleleafweb.com/forums//index....showtopic=13576 That is funny. Not surprising but funny. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Yep I'd rather have this mismanagement then liberal mismanagement. I'm sorry if that just sounds like Tory support no matter how bad things get. Quote
Alta4ever Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 I'm sorry if that just sounds like Tory support no matter how bad things get. It would have to slide a long long way before it ever got as bad as the liberal governments. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 It would have to slide a long long way before it ever got as bad as the liberal governments. You mean no deficit and spending cuts? Quote
Oleg Bach Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 Jobs are not whats important - our rich elite have enough money generated by our workers to last them twenty life times. That's why they are not worried about economic matters. Money and "jobs" to be an issue and a goal at this time is not feasible or wise - What is important is physical human survival and the continued persuit of happiness. We will not perish. Our whole system was to work for a few men who controled all of our industry - the game has come to an end and now we must move forward..The old guard is retiring and they want out...so it's up to us to build new lives and not depend on an old system that has been ABANDONED. Quote
DrGreenthumb Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 I am quite a happy fellow. I just don't like government intervention. Except if it is intervention into private personal choices like who can get married, or who can smoke a joint instead of having a beer. I am a very happy guy when government isn't wasting my hard earned tax dollars. Unless they are wasting it doing things I like such as hunting down people who use herbal medicine, or bombing countries populated by brown skinned people. We need to go back to the idea of personal responsibility. Except in the case of people who smoke pot. We need to crack down on those people. We can't give people the responsibility of deciding what they put into their own body. THAT kind of thing is the government's RESPONSIBILITY to control. The bolded comments are my interpretation of Alta's thinking. I guess i could learn how to seperate up the quotes to resond to different parts but its just too much like work for a lazy pothead like me. Quote
Oleg Bach Posted March 12, 2009 Report Posted March 12, 2009 The bolded comments are my interpretation of Alta's thinking. I guess i could learn how to seperate up the quotes to resond to different parts but its just too much like work for a lazy pothead like me. Oh don't be such a baby...you are not lazy. You are just comfortably numb and relaxed - I am sure you do the dishes after guming up the pots and pans making fudge in the middle of the night. Quote
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