madmax Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) Apparently Video Professor is well aware that he resembles Jack Layton. So, after another catty remark from the CPC spinmeister, I found it amusing that in the comments section is a posting from the Video Professor in the US. While being good mannered, and even with a slight knowledge of the NDP from some of his team members living in Vancouver, he provides a link to his own political views in the US and on deficits etc. Its a good read from someone that we poke fun at to poke fun at someone else.... Powers knows everything in case you missed the comment portion.... Video Professor Link Fixed Its a good read.... Edited January 16, 2009 by madmax Quote
M.Dancer Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 (edited) My company used to help the VP do business in Canada..... Edited January 15, 2009 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied opening post Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
Progressive Tory Posted January 14, 2009 Report Posted January 14, 2009 My company used to help the VP do business in Canada..... I think Jack Layton is still angry over the personal attacks. I can't really blame him. However, he shouldn't publicly say that he's going to oppose the budget, without actually seeing what the budget has to offer. That's not why he was elected. We'll see. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Wild Bill Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 The Video Professor? I thought that as he's been getting older he's looking more and more like Lenin! Seriously! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
punked Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 If it adds tax cuts he will vote against it. The only civilization to make Tax cuts when they were at war was the Bush government and Harper to the GST and look where it got both of us. Quote
M.Dancer Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 If it adds tax cuts he will vote against it. The only civilization to make Tax cuts when they were at war was the Bush government and Harper to the GST and look where it got both of us. ... more money in our pockets? Well, look where raising taxes got us in the past...a lower standard of living. Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
punked Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 ... more money in our pockets?Well, look where raising taxes got us in the past...a lower standard of living. Good end the war then cut taxes sounds great. You have to cut costs somewhere to cut taxes and becuase all our military money goes to the US to build us stuff lets just end it and spend that money in Canada or CUT TAXES. Quote
Progressive Tory Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 ... more money in our pockets?Well, look where raising taxes got us in the past...a lower standard of living. Hmmm...yes and American's standard of living has improved so much in the last eight years...oh, wait a minute... Like I said before, lowering taxes without reducing spending, doesn't work. We've seen it. Not only did the Cons blow a 13 billion dollar surplus but the economic statement only gives us a small surplus if we sell 12 billion dollars in assets. 13 billion and 12 billion...25 billion dollars spent above what was collected. This is not going to put money in our pockets and the recent and projected job losses are only going to reduce revenue further, while draining EI. Can't see how any of that has or will put money in our pockets. Quote "For all our modesty and self-deprecation, we’re a people who dream great dreams. And then roll up our sleeves and turn them into realities." - Michael Ignatieff "I would not want the Prime Minister to think that he could simply fail in the House of Commons as a route to another General Election. That's not the way our system works." Stephen Harper.
Moonbox Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Hmmm...yes and American's standard of living has improved so much in the last eight years...oh, wait a minute... The Americans crossed a line we haven't even neared yet. Our federal government's finances are a COMPLETELY different picture from that of the US. Don't even compare them. Like I said before, lowering taxes without reducing spending, doesn't work. We've seen it. No we haven't. We've seen tax cuts with increased spending combined with a collapsing economy. The first two work to diminish the effects of the last. Your argument here shows a FUNDAMENTAL lack of logical thought. Either you don't understand the economy, or you're just blowing hot air. Either way, it makes it hard to take you seriously. Not only did the Cons blow a 13 billion dollar surplus but the economic statement only gives us a small surplus if we sell 12 billion dollars in assets. 13 billion and 12 billion...25 billion dollars spent above what was collected. We both know that expenditures have risen and that taxes have been reduced. That's fine. We get it. Your math, however, and the implications you make from it, again prevent anyone from being able to take you seriously. Revenue is down for two reasons. One is obviously the 2% GST reduction. The second is the fact that corporate revenue and personal income is DRASTICALLY down across the board because of a massive recession. I agree that the spending was unecessary. I am VERY pleased that taxes were reduced, however, because in all likelihood that has pre-emptively sheltered us somewhat from the effects of the recession. If you were to rule out the GST cuts and the spending increases, we would STILL be running a deficit. What's particularly amusing to me, however, with all you economic 'geniuses' is how you will condemn 2008 spending and the 2009 proposed deficit but all the other parties out there also promised massive stimulus and deficits. ANY stimulus spending will take many months to a year to even have an impact on the economy. Harper spending in late 2007 and through 2008 IS being felt already and this is savings jobs and keeping people working RIGHT NOW rather than in 6-12 months. Fancy that. Harper warned of a slowing economy in 2007. Mayhaps he was making plans to buffer the effects? Harper warns of slowing economy - Dec 2007 Edited January 15, 2009 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
madmax Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Posted January 15, 2009 Harper spending in late 2007 and through 2008 IS being felt already and this is savings jobs and keeping people working RIGHT NOW rather than in 6-12 months. Fancy that. Quote
Moonbox Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 Alright madmax I'll meet your juvenile emoticons with simple logic. 1. A tax cut on consumer spending can ONLY help to increase consumer spending. Do you agree or disagree? 2. Government spending pumps money into the economy. Do you agree or disagree? 3. Harper indicated over a year ago that the economy might face a slow down? Agree or disagree? It's REALLY amusing watching you and others froth at the mouth over Harper spending over the last year or so and paint Ignatieff or Layton or whoever as a beacon of hope as they promise similar deficits and spending moving forward. Apparently increased spending leading up to the recession = BAD Increased spending AFTER the fact = GOOD? Could you please explain how? Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Wild Bill Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Apparently increased spending leading up to the recession = BADIncreased spending AFTER the fact = GOOD? Could you please explain how? It's easy, MB! First, you demand that Harper abandon a balanced budget. Then you wait until you can lambaste him for running a deficit, after first berating him for not having a big ENOUGH stimulus deficit! If you're fortunate enough to knock him out of office, you blame the whole sorry mess on the deficit he left you. Then you can do whatever you want, take all the credit and deflect any blame that comes up on Harper for being your predecessor. It's been a tired old Opposition tactic for so flippin' long that I'm surprised there's any voter left over the age of 18 who believes it! It's about as original as a federal government opinion column in the Toronto Star. You know, "Everything the Liberals do is good. Everything Harper does is bad!". Excuse me, I'm feeling sleepy. I think I'll take a nap now. Edited January 15, 2009 by Wild Bill Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
punked Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Edited January 15, 2009 by punked Quote
Moonbox Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 Providing a synopsis might help. I'm not clicking it because I don't want to get Rickrolled. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he does for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
punked Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 Providing a synopsis might help. I'm not clicking it because I don't want to get Rickrolled. It isn't Rick it is Steve Promising again and again the only the opposition would favour a deficit and that he would never ever do that. It is his Read my lips moment. Quote
Wild Bill Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 The Video Professor? I thought that as he's been getting older he's looking more and more like Lenin!Seriously! I noticed I wasn't clear. I hope people realize I meant that LAYTON is looking more and more like Lenin, not the Video Professor! Quote "A government which robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend on the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw "There is no point in being difficult when, with a little extra effort, you can be completely impossible."
madmax Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Posted January 15, 2009 Alright madmax I'll meet your juvenile emoticons with simple logic. There is no way I can take your comment seriously that Harpers intent this past year was to save jobs. Having been to Ottawa to meet with his ministers and such since 2007, and then just recently in the past 3 months, even still, I have a hard time not spitting up my coffee. If you recall, Harper stated quite clearly in September..... Companies can do as they like, the governments role is not to save jobs. Harper said people he spoke with were not concerned about their jobs but their stocks. Harper said he was not going to run a deficit, while he knowingly was running a deficit and now plans to have whopper Mulroney deficits. The only thing clear so far, is that Harper will say anything to get elected. What I have heard so far has been lip service and lip servants. Quote
madmax Posted January 15, 2009 Author Report Posted January 15, 2009 It's been a tired old Opposition tactic for so flippin' long that I'm surprised there's any voter left over the age of 18 who believes it! Defend the deficit. Enjoy. Sorry, I don't support Mulroney style Massive deficits of 40 Billion. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 (edited) Defend the deficit. Enjoy. Sorry, I don't support Mulroney style Massive deficits of 40 Billion. Then you must really hate the Liberals for forcing this on the Conservatives. You're not alone. Edited January 15, 2009 by Martin Chriton Quote
punked Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 Then you must really hate the Liberals for forcing this on the Conservatives.You're not alone. You are right Conservatives never make decisions by them selves. It must be why it is around 10 months since they past anything at all. I hope they never get a majority nothing will ever get done because the Liberals make all the Cons decisions. Strong leadership is what you want right? Time for something new then. Quote
Martin Chriton Posted January 15, 2009 Report Posted January 15, 2009 You are right Conservatives never make decisions by them selves. I suggest you research what a minority government is. You obviously don't understand the concept. Quote
punked Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 I suggest you research what a minority government is. You obviously don't understand the concept. Last time I checked in a minority government the party in power is the one who can keep the confidence of the house not the one who lies to the public to keep the most seats. I will look again but I think I am right. Harper is the one who brings down the budget not the Liberals, this is not 1998 keep up. Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 Last time I checked in a minority government the party in power is the one who can keep the confidence of the house not the one who lies to the public to keep the most seats. I will look again but I think I am right. Harper is the one who brings down the budget not the Liberals, this is not 1998 keep up. Funny I don't recall a minority gov in 1998. I wonder why nothing has been passed in 10 months have a look at the work the senate has been doing. How long did they stall the term limits bill again? A document what two whole paragraphs long? How about the hijacked commities why legislation that passed forst reading in the house was then sent back by the senate to go to commitee where guess what it is stalled or they were unable to bring up the matter because certain parties were tring to turn commitee meetings into judcial witch hunts. Time to learn a little about how our government works and the impediments of it in a minority government. It is amazing anything got passed and turned into law. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
punked Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 Funny I don't recall a minority gov in 1998. I wonder why nothing has been passed in 10 months have a look at the work the senate has been doing. How long did they stall the term limits bill again? A document what two whole paragraphs long? How about the hijacked commities why legislation that passed forst reading in the house was then sent back by the senate to go to commitee where guess what it is stalled or they were unable to bring up the matter because certain parties were tring to turn commitee meetings into judcial witch hunts.Time to learn a little about how our government works and the impediments of it in a minority government. It is amazing anything got passed and turned into law. I remember the Liberals being in power and getting things done in 1998. Remember when Harper couldn't find anything to do so he called for Summer recess early? Oh I do. BTW once the election was called and proroguing all bills Die. So the last 4 months have been totally Harper's fault all by himself he can share the blame for the other 5. Don't try to pass the blame becuase your party is the vacation and Recess party. Truth hurts Quote
Alta4ever Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 I remember the Liberals being in power and getting things done in 1998. Remember when Harper couldn't find anything to do so he called for Summer recess early? Oh I do. BTW once the election was called and proroguing all bills Die. So the last 4 months have been totally Harper's fault all by himself he can share the blame for the other 5. Don't try to pass the blame becuase your party is the vacation and Recess party. Truth hurts The senate stalled the bills what was going on in JUne do you remeber? NOthing but commitees shutting down day in and day out because they were more interested in a Cadmen witch hunt then actually doing their jobs. The liberals had a majority government in 1998, plus an election called just days after Stockwell day took over the Alliance I remeber very well what went on. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
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