How low can Israeli supporters sink

KeyStone · January 13, 2009

Remember Lebanon? Green Helmet...Beirut in flames. Same deal as al-Durrah and 155mm howitzer strikes on families sitting at the beach. You can not trust Hamas and Hezbollah news sources...not because I say so...but because they were proved false on prior occasions.

The alleged fraud that you cite is interesting.

First of all, when Israel occupies or invades, their standard practice is to ban all foreign media.

Then, the only media getting out is Israeli media and the occasional home movie.

These home movies for the most part are Arabs showing dead and injured children.

Since there doesn't seem to be any dispute about the fact that children are dying, you have to ask yourself why Lebanon or Palestine would feel a need to make fake videos of dead children? Obviously, they show the children to put international pressure on Israel to stop the killing.

But, why fake it, why not use real footage? There are no shortage of bodies of children?

a) The bodies are destroyed beyond recognition?

It is too dangerous to retrieve the bodies?

c) Children aren't really dying. It is just an Arab trick. They are playing happily in a grassy meadow?

d) Israel tries to discredit each and every video coming out of there (real or not), so that people won't feel sorry for the Arabs

What do you think the real answer is?

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

But, why fake it, why not use real footage? There are no shortage of bodies of children?

Easier to stage than to rush a camera around hoping to find just the right frame.

First of all, when Israel occupies or invades, their standard practice is to ban all foreign media.

They certainly don't ban them from the areas they haven't overrun. CBC was in Lebanon..AP...BBC...

Drea · January 13, 2009

Yes, when you really analyze her posts, she's a Jew-hater and I almost pity someone who's life is ruled by hate. But it makes you wonder how she became that way.

Jews are whiny. Always have been, always will be.

Whine whine whine.... poor land-grabbin' jews are sooooo persecuted. FFS how blind and ignorant can people be?

DID YOU VIEW THE PHOTOS?

Of course you didn't because that would upset your idealism that Isreal is a poor little prosecuted cuntry that can never do wrong.

Killing children is wrong. Killing soldiers is not.

KeyStone · January 13, 2009

Everyone has heard of Vanunu. To some he's a hero...to others a traitor. Let's ask BC-2004 what would have happened to him if he started spilling nuclear secrets to the press. In my opinion, Vanunu is lucky he didn't end up like Gerald Bull.

Well, unlike Bull, Vanunun wasn't showing other countries how to build weapons.

His only crime was exposing Israel's lies (that they didn't have nuclear weapons) to the world.

This is how much Israel thinks of free speech. 18 years in prison, can't leave the country, and can't talk to journalists.

Quite a nation of freedoms.

That's too bad, re: the documentary. I guess you missed the part about who wants the tunnels and who doesn't.

I don't want to invest 25 minutes so that I can respond to an online post.

If there is something important in the film, just spit it out man.

Rachel Corrie died (or was killed if you prefer) because she got in the way of a moving bulldozer. That much stupidity we can be sure of.

Yes, thinking that Israelis would care about human life is stupid.

wulf42 · January 13, 2009

Wah wah wah.
Go cry Emo Kid

A freedom fighter (you call them "terrorists") will get one, sneak into Isreal and detonate it.

*shrug*

Okay assuming a terrorist does get a nuke into Israel then detonates it...what happens then??

what do you think the Israeli's will do in response??? you do know that like the U.S. Israel has different delivery system's for their Nuclear arsenal such as Submarine launched weapons SLBM'S , and land based systems missiles ICBM'S so their nuclear arsenal will be intact, so any strike on Israel will be met with immediate strikes

and with the Israeli's they won't wait to find out who did it they will simply take out the middle east.............so Drea is that what you are hoping for???

Drea · January 13, 2009

No.

Just sayin' ... if they continue to kill innocent civilians then they deserve what they get.

And Isreal will go on a rampage and bomb every country in the surrounding area as they won't know where the little nuke came from so they will blame every muslim on earth.

Surely they have trained professional snipers that can "take out" members of Hamas rather than bombing the shit out of schools and hospitals under the guise of "Hamas was hidin' in there!".

I hear Canada has some extreme sniper dudes (apparently the best in the world). Why don't we send them and take the buggers out?

Explain THAT!

One good sniper could have easily taken out Saddam, could have easily taken out Bin Laden, could easily take out Lil Kim. So what the hell is the problem? Why bomb the crap out of the populace when one good shot would do it?

KeyStone · January 13, 2009

The attempt to twist won't work. Hamas is dedicated to destroy Israel - and is supported by a majority of Palestinians in Gaza.

Hamas was formed at a time when Israel was attacking Palestine and their charter reflects an 'at war' attitude.

However, Hamas has backed away from that and has come close to making several agreements with Israel.

They just haven't updated their paper yet.

During an allegedly election? Ever see any similar armed crowds in the middle east outside of Gaza and the West Bank? Please provide some links. LOL - when did al Jasera go out of business? The game was over power and control, not over disarmament.

You're kidding right?

Here is the Wikipedia entry for celebratory gunfire.

"Celebratory gunfire is the shooting of a firearm into the air in celebration. It is culturally accepted in the Balkans, the Middle East, South Asian regions Pakistan and Afganistan and in Latin American regions like Puerto Rico as well as some areas of the United States."

You are more than a little confuled. Hamas was delared a terrorist organization in Canada in November 2002. The Hamas - Fettah conflict did not occur until five years later. Next time actually read the results of the Google search. Surprise!! My explanation was adequate.

Not sure what you are patting yourself on the back for, but there seems to be a misunderstanding. I did not mean to imply that the santions against Hamas occured as a result of the most recent rocketfire. I'm saying the international community didn't ignore it. Of course, when a country ignores as many UN resolutions as Israel, they don't have quite as much credibility when they whine to the UN.

You are denying the results of the election are you?
Hamas has been attacking for years. They are now paying the price.

Israel and the West encouraged Hamas to become a political party and engage people through a democratic process. Then when they do, and win, the West decides to cut of all the funding? Phenomenal. So, its ok to be an obscure political party, but not Ok to actually have any influence or power.

Hamas is not engaged in any form of freedom fight.
Hamas is controlled by Iran., so why are they fighting Israel?

Any proof that Hamas is controlled by Iran?

The IDF are not terrorists, depite your allegations.
They feel that they are under attack and they are trying to rouse up support to defend Palestine.

The IDF have killed A LOT more children than Hamas, Fatah, Hezbollah and Al-Aqsa martyrs brigade combined.

But, oh, they wear uniforms. Big friggin' deal.

wulf42 · January 13, 2009

No.
Just sayin' ... if they continue to kill innocent civilians then they deserve what they get.

And Isreal will go on a rampage and bomb every country in the surrounding area as they won't know where the little nuke came from so they will blame every muslim on earth.

Surely they have trained professional snipers that can "take out" members of Hamas rather than bombing the shit out of schools and hospitals under the guise of "Hamas was hidin' in there!".

I hear Canada has some extreme sniper dudes (apparently the best in the world). Why don't we send them and take the buggers out?

Explain THAT!

One good sniper could have easily taken out Saddam, could have easily taken out Bin Laden, could easily take out Lil Kim. So what the hell is the problem? Why bomb the crap out of the populace when one good shot would do it?

It would take a hell of a lot of snipers to take out all the Hamas guys and as far as Saddam and Kim goes, they were/are completely surrounded by security and protection....if it was that easy to take them out they would have done it,Hamas hides in public areas firing rockets forcing Israel to bomb them....Hamas like all these other Islamic groups are sissy's and cowards and could careless about the general population of their own people.

KeyStone · January 13, 2009

What idiotic leaders would sit back and tell their people to ignore the rockets and just learn to live with them? You're seeing a country whose tolerance and patience had finally reached its end.

1) Israel has other options on how to deal with the rocket fire, such as actually easing the restrictions etc.

But instead, they choose to maintain the abyssmal living conditions in Gaza, leaving Hamas no choice.

When the First nations in Canada break the law, we don't slaughter them - we sit down at the table with them.

It's not that hard.

2) And I say - well, it's about time! Israel should do everyone the favor and finish it this time.

Well, that statement is certainly on par with Drea's suggestion that Israel be nuked.

Either way, it gets finished, if that is the end goal.

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

When the First nations in Canada break the law, we don't slaughter them - we sit down at the table with them.

Given that the prisons have a large pecentage of first nations as inmates, I would suggest that when they breal the law, when we sit down with them, a judge sits down in front.

Now if they happened to start lobbing rockets into mississauga, all the talking would be behind bars them that ain't killed.

KeyStone · January 13, 2009

well isn't THAT rich?
It's not "hateful"... remember JBG, for war to be "humane" it must be "total".

Your words, not mine.

Isreal has no claim on that land. Just like the Chinese have no claim on North America simply because their anscestors crossed the Bering strait.

I am not anit-jew, just anti-Isreal. They do not belong there and should just leave. I am sure the US would gladly let Isreal relocate there.

But Isrealis would much rather kill children for the next 1,000 years than make concessions to the people they invaded so few decades ago.

Again, tough poo ... you don't want to face reality. The reality is that "your people" are killing children.

Look at the goddamn pictures, see for yourself ... of course looking at Palestinian babies buried in rubble means about as much to you as a dead fly in your kitchen.

Pfft.

Drea, while I don't like your suggestion that Israel be nuked, or that it deserves to be nuked.

Your posts are no worse than the hateful Zionist-supporters who call the Palestinians animals, and suggest that they be finished off.

I assume you were just being reciprocal in your extreme position.

guyser · January 13, 2009

Jews are whiny. Always have been, always will be.

All of 'em? Ok got that. Didnt know.

Whine whine whine.... . FFS how blind and ignorant can people be?

You keep showing us with each post. I suspect the depths of your ignorance will take awhile to be known.

blah blah blah blah blah...a poor little prosecuted cuntry that blah blah blah

Wanted to but decency prevents me. The only difference is you are not prosecuted, but the rest fits.

Killing children is wrong. Killing soldiers is not.

And here you sink a lil lower in ignorance.

Edited January 13, 2009 by guyser

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

Jesus didn't know he was the Messiah and I doubt that Jesus would have cared for anti-Judaic people like yourself.

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Edited January 13, 2009 by Ontario Loyalist

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

I owuld have thought the drubing you got the first time would have kept you away from posting such stupid revisionist ahistorialc racosts drivel.
The last time you were unable to provide any credible citations for this drek, I cannot assume your talent for baseless libel has improved.

Well, let's see, it's an established fact, but of course, given your penchant for not considering facts valid, you post does not come as a surprise...

Geez, since you claim to be a church going lady, one would think you would have at least read your picture Bible whilst a little girl...

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

Well, let's see, it's an established fact, but of course, given your penchant for not considering facts valid, you post does not come as a surprise...
Geez, since you claim to be a church going lady, one would think you would have at least read your picture Bible whilst a little girl...

If it's an established fact, lets see some established citations.

Speaking of the idiotic nonsense you spout, try backing up your claim I'm a church goer, or a lady....I suspect you'll fall flat on your arse on that claim too.

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

Okay assuming a terrorist does get a nuke into Israel then detonates it...what happens then??
what do you think the Israeli's will do in response??? you do know that like the U.S. Israel has different delivery system's for their Nuclear arsenal such as Submarine launched weapons SLBM'S , and land based systems missiles ICBM'S so their nuclear arsenal will be intact, so any strike on Israel will be met with immediate strikes

and with the Israeli's they won't wait to find out who did it they will simply take out the middle east.............so Drea is that what you are hoping for???

Well, really the real threat here is a preventative nuclear stike by Israel. The possibility of a terrorist group setting off a nuke is remote at best, but the fear-mongering suggesting that they will certainly does suit certain agendas, doesn't it... Needless to say it would be sort of ironic if Israel would get nuked, given that Jews are largely to thank for the development of the ability to make nuclear weapons. Sadly the rest of us will have to pay the price, too. Just goes to show what revenge can accomplish, the A-Bomb of course being developed to drop on Germany, not Japan. Violence begets violence, and revenge only leads to revenge. That's why Jesus came, to break the cycle, but many Jews wouldn't and now we get this ever present threat. So go figure, there may be an End Time/Armageddon after all.

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

If it's an established fact, lets see some established citations.
Speaking of the idiotic nonsense you spout, try backing up your claim I'm a church goer, or a lady....I suspect you'll fall flat on your arse on that claim too.

Well, your making a claim that you go to church for one, but no surprise that that was a lie. Comes natural to your type, doesn't it...?

AngusThermopyle · January 13, 2009

Geez, since you claim to be a church going lady, one would think you would have at least read your picture Bible whilst a little girl...

Anyone here ever hear Dancer claim he's a church going lady?

Me either, I think someone is a little confused. :lol:

Violence begets violence, and revenge only leads to revenge. That's why Jesus came, to break the cycle, but many Jews wouldn't and now we get this ever present threat. So go figure, there may be an End Time/Armageddon after all.

Wow!

I'm not really sure what to say about this. How do you answer such an obviously ignorant, prejudiced and racist post? Are you really this rooted in ignorance or are you merely playing to the crowd?

If I'm reading you right, you're saying that the Jews are the cause of violence in the world since the time of Christ. It's hard to believe someone can say such a thing and expect to be viewed in a serious vein, or even sanely.

Edited January 13, 2009 by AngusThermopyle

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

Anyone here ever hear Dancer claim he's a church going lady?
Me either, I think someone is a little confused.

Wow!

Confused? perhaps. Addle brained? Definately

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

Well, your making a claim that you go to church for one, but no surprise that that was a lie. Comes natural to your type, doesn't it...?

If I made a claim then it's here...so find it.

Then we will know who the addled brained fool is....But you won't cause you can't back up the drek you post.

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

If I'm reading you right, you're saying that the Jews are the cause of violence in the world since the time of Christ. It's hard to believe someone can say such a thing and expect to be viewed in a serious vein, or even sanely.

I'm not very impressed by your lack of ability when it comes to reading comprehension. So much strife is based on willful or ignorant misunderstandings of the other sides' argument.

Ontario Loyalist · January 13, 2009

If I made a claim then it's here...so find it.
Then we will know who the addled brained fool is....But you won't cause you can't back up the drek you post.

Well, if you can't remember making it, then that's your problem. Goes back to what your mama should have told you about lying. You always have to cover a lie with a lie, then eventually it becomes second nature. Well, maybe your kinds' mamas don't do that because how else would you get where you are? Sad that your type are for some reason given free reign here; I suspect there's something behind it, monetary or otherwise...

guyser · January 13, 2009

Well, if you can't remember making it, then that's your problem.

Yes Mo is dumb enough to send a check to chuck tony every month...

Actually, you have to show us where mdancer said he was a lady and a church goer. I know enough that both of those are far from the truth.

Besides, he said your posts are "pew" and you should try peddling them down on Church St.

S'alright, one can be confused.

wulf42 · January 13, 2009

Well, really the real threat here is a preventative nuclear stike by Israel. The possibility of a terrorist group setting off a nuke is remote at best, but the fear-mongering suggesting that they will certainly does suit certain agendas, doesn't it... Needless to say it would be sort of ironic if Israel would get nuked, given that Jews are largely to thank for the development of the ability to make nuclear weapons. Sadly the rest of us will have to pay the price, too. Just goes to show what revenge can accomplish, the A-Bomb of course being developed to drop on Germany, not Japan. Violence begets violence, and revenge only leads to revenge. That's why Jesus came, to break the cycle, but many Jews wouldn't and now we get this ever present threat. So go figure, there may be an End Time/Armageddon after all.

I don't see how the Jews are to blame for violence considering the Nazi's tried to exterminate them and now they fight everyday for their own existence! But God forbid they defend themselves!

M.Dancer · January 13, 2009

Well, if you can't remember making it, then that's your problem. Goes back to what your mama should have told you about lying. You always have to cover a lie with a lie, then eventually it becomes second nature. Well, maybe your kinds' mamas don't do that because how else would you get where you are? Sad that your type are for some reason given free reign here; I suspect there's something behind it, monetary or otherwise...

This is me laughing at your complete lack of credibility.

Consider yourself completely and publicly pantsed, fool.