Argus Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 I doubt he has one. I don't really doubt it's true, though. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 You are right Seaton House. No one said what is the nicest. They city and the Feds pump close to 100 million a year into Homelessness. This is why I want a Citation becuase what you are saying is a lie. I doubt it is a lie. The Salvation Army and the various churches spend an enormous amount of time and effort working with and helping the homeless, especially in places like Toronto. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 Sure protests have worked for other causes. This one however has been fought with the wrong tools. The hard core zealots are making splashy efforts, yet to date they have failed because of the issue. In fact, the hard core zealots turn people OFF in a big way. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Mr.Canada Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 In fact, the hard core zealots turn people OFF in a big way. Job number one is getting people talking about the issue. Job number two is putting images into their heads of what abortion looks like, which drives Pro Choicers crazy. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Molly Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 Energizes. Reminds us just how fragile our hold on that right to our own persons is. Inclines us to actually stand up and be counted when some ignorant ass starts spouting off, instead of just walking away in presumption that his mouthing off will be as disregarded by others as by ourselves. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Mr.Canada Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 Energizes. Reminds us just how fragile our hold on that right to our own persons is. Inclines us to actually stand up and be counted when some ignorant ass starts spouting off, instead of just walking away in presumption that his mouthing off will be as disregarded by others as by ourselves. Yes, as no limits on abortion is a great thing right? A woman walking into a clinic and getting an abortion in the 9th month is great right? A pregnant woman who gets assaulted and loses the baby while the assailant isn't charged with anything against the baby is a great thing too right? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
punked Posted January 4, 2009 Report Posted January 4, 2009 Yes, as no limits on abortion is a great thing right? A woman walking into a clinic and getting an abortion in the 9th month is great right?A pregnant woman who gets assaulted and loses the baby while the assailant isn't charged with anything against the baby is a great thing too right? Apparently 55% and counting on this very conservative board think it is. Quote
ToadBrother Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 Yes, as no limits on abortion is a great thing right? A woman walking into a clinic and getting an abortion in the 9th month is great right?A pregnant woman who gets assaulted and loses the baby while the assailant isn't charged with anything against the baby is a great thing too right? In the ninth month they don't call it "abortion" any more, they call it "giving birth". I openly challenge you to provide the statistics for the number of abortions in this country in the ninth month. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 In the ninth month they don't call it "abortion" any more, they call it "giving birth".I openly challenge you to provide the statistics for the number of abortions in this country in the ninth month. The point is that it's legal. A woman having an abortion in the 8th month is fine and good ethically with you? Or morally if you have any morals. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
ToadBrother Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 The point is that it's legal. A woman having an abortion in the 8th month is fine and good ethically with you? Or morally if you have any morals. Now suddenly we've dropped a month. You're shifting the goalposts back. How much longer before you're in fool retreat here? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) Now suddenly we've dropped a month. You're shifting the goalposts back. How much longer before you're in fool retreat here? Have fun. Edited January 5, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
jdobbin Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 You don't believe that most of the shelters for homeless/meals for the homeless are run by the Salvation Army? Open a phone book or call the city of Toronto. I have no idea what the percentage is in Toronto. I asked you for a reference because you often toss around "facts" without backing them up. Why should I open a book to verify your facts? Why don't you post them here? Jdobbin, open your Winnipeg phone book and tell me how many Sally Ann's there are. In Winnipeg, most of the shelter is provided by Siloam Mission which is not Salvation Army. It was founded by the Korean Nazarene. A lot of the food for low income comes from Winnipeg Harvest which is secular. Try and back up your statements with a few citations. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 I don't really doubt it's true, though. My comment was how he doesn't make any citations for statements he makes. Quote
blueblood Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 (edited) More abortion mess . Harper should punt this clod from caucus ASAP. Nobody wants this gongshow to be going on. Edited January 5, 2009 by blueblood Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
jdobbin Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 More abortion mess . Harper should punt this clod from caucus ASAP. Many think it is why Bruinooge was demoted. Quote
blueblood Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 Many think it is why Bruinooge was demoted. I'd say punt the fool. There are a lot of people who would love to run for the tory party that wouldn't contribute to this nonsense. And people wonder why Harper muzzles the buffoons... Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
scribblet Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 More abortion mess . Harper should punt this clod from caucus ASAP.Nobody wants this gongshow to be going on. He won't get anywhere, the best he can do is put forward a private member's bill which Harper won't sign. He does of course have a right to a voice in a democracy, let us hope that there are not enough of such voices to bring in legislation. Late term abortions are not performed in Canada, no doctor will do them, not even Morgentellar. The procedure termed as 'partial birth abortion' is never performed in Canada either. Although I think it can be done here if there major congenital malformations. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
Jerry J. Fortin Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 Harper can say what he likes the reality is born out in the makeup of his caucus and the views found within. Quote
Molly Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 I'd be inclined to agree with that. I wonder whether Bruinooge qualifies as a) an embarrassment a sacrificial lamb, sacrificed to suck up to social conservatives c) a trial balloon d) a distraction, to keep folks from looking too closely at the rest of what government is doing. or just what combination of the above. In any case, the fact that he has not had a visit from the whip speaks volumes. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Jerry J. Fortin Posted January 5, 2009 Report Posted January 5, 2009 The idea shall whither on the vine. It will never see an order paper. Quote
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