Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Which means that you are flexible on abortion. Not at all. I support abortion reform as do millions of Canadians. It will happen with the Tories just not yet. Now isn't the time. DO you disagree? DO you feel now is indeed the time to get abortion reform passed? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 DO you feel now is indeed the time to get abortion reform passed? Why not, people are being murdered every day as it is. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Why not, people are being murdered every day as it is. Smallc, you support abortion reform? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Smallc, you support abortion reform? Oh, I don't believe they're people, but you do. Edited January 3, 2009 by Smallc Quote
jdobbin Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Not at all. I support abortion reform as do millions of Canadians. It will happen with the Tories just not yet. Now isn't the time. DO you disagree? DO you feel now is indeed the time to get abortion reform passed? It doesn't matter what I believe. If you believe abortion is murder which you have said here, it means that you are voting to support a party that doesn't make it a priority. It means you support a party that allows murder and therefore you are guilty too. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) It doesn't matter what I believe. If you believe abortion is murder which you have said here, it means that you are voting to support a party that doesn't make it a priority. It means you support a party that allows murder and therefore you are guilty too. Well, we will have to leave it at that then. I have described my position and you fail to accept it so I guess we'll have to wait and see. It isn't a top priority of mine either, it's in the top 10 but it's not number 1 for me. I just talk about because a)it's polarizing, people feel strongly one way or the other on it, B.) almost guaranteed to be a long thread and c) Parliament is prorogued and political is slow atm hehe. Edited January 3, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
jdobbin Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Well, we will have to leave it at that then. I have described my position and you fail to accept it so I guess we'll have to wait and see. It isn't a top priority of mine either, it's in the top 10 but it's not number 1 for me. Then you have a flexible position on an issue you consider murder. It is simple as that. I just talk about because a)it's polarizing, people feel strongly one way or the other on it, B.) almost guaranteed to be a long thread and c) Parliament is prorogued and political is slow atm hehe. As long as you vote for the Tories and consider abortion murder, you are enabling. You have compromised your principles. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Then you have a flexible position on an issue you consider murder. It is simple as that.As long as you vote for the Tories and consider abortion murder, you are enabling. You have compromised your principles. Lol, your attack is a rather weak attempt to paint me a hypocrite dobbin, it will not work. I think that everyone on MLW knows that I'm for abortion reform. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
jdobbin Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Lol, your attack is a rather weak attempt to paint me a hypocrite dobbin, it will not work. But you are a hypocrite. And the claim is a strong one and it will work. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) But you are a hypocrite. And the claim is a strong one and it will work. If this was put to a vote abortion would be restricted. That's why the Pro choicers are so afraid of it being voted on. A majority of Canadians are for protecting unborn children to some degree. Whether its after from conception, 3 months, or 6months. Only 30% of Canadians are in favor of only protecting children after birth so that's that. The Pro choicers know this already. Explain how I'm being hypocritical dobbin. I'm a Pro Life supporter and am vocal about it. I push for abortion reform to people that need to hear it. In the spring I'm starting an ad campaign with disturbing images. So keep your eyes peeled for it. I'll let you guys know where we'll be setting up so the Pro choicers can show up. Edited January 3, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) A majority of Canadians are for protecting unborn children to some degree. Whether its after from conception, 3 months, or 6months. "Truth is not determined by a majority vote" - Pope Benedict XVI That also goes for what's right. Edited January 3, 2009 by Smallc Quote
jdobbin Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) If this was put to a vote abortion would be restricted. That's why the Pro choicers are so afraid of it being voted on. A majority of Canadians are for protecting unborn children to some degree. Whether its after from conception, 3 months, or 6months. Only 30% of Canadians are in favor of only protecting children after birth so that's that. The Pro choicers know this already. Then by all means vote for a party that support introducing legislation. Since you don't, it seems that it isn't a priority for you. Hence, I say you are sacrificing principles and support a party that is letting murder happen. I'd like to see your cite on the stat you quote. Explain how I'm being hypocritical dobbin. I'm a Pro Life supporter and am vocal about it. I push for abortion reform to people that need to hear it. In the spring I'm starting an ad campaign with disturbing images. So keep your eyes peeled for it. I'll let you guys know where we'll be setting up so the Pro choicers can show up. You are a murderer because you support a party that allows murder to happen. You are not pro-Life if you sacrfice your principles for so craven of reasons as power. Power for what? You think Harper will introduce abortion laws if he gets a majority? Either he has a hidden agenda or he doesn't. Which is it? And you are you a hypocrite if you support a party that you believe is allowing murder to take place. Simple really. Edited January 3, 2009 by jdobbin Quote
punked Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 If this was put to a vote abortion would be restricted. That's why the Pro choicers are so afraid of it being voted on. A majority of Canadians are for protecting unborn children to some degree. Whether its after from conception, 3 months, or 6months. Only 30% of Canadians are in favor of only protecting children after birth so that's that. The Pro choicers know this already. If the majority of Canadians were against civil rights does that make it right? If the majority of Canadians were for killing Jews does that make it right? Regardless of how the majority of Canadians feel it is the governments job to make sure the minority is not persecuted by the majority it is the glue that hold society together. BTW the majority of Canadians are not for legislation of any kind and think it should be left up to the mother. In a poll conducted by the National Post in November 2002, 78% of respondents answered "yes" to the question: "Should women have complete freedom on their decision to have an abortion?". Ohhhh don't forget this gem In a Gallup Canada poll taken April 2005, 52% of respondents say they would like to see Canadian abortion laws "remain the same," 20% say they would like the laws to be "less strict," while 24% say they would like the laws to be "more strict." So 70% of Canadians want same or less abortion laws. Quote
ToadBrother Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 If this was put to a vote abortion would be restricted. That's why the Pro choicers are so afraid of it being voted on. A majority of Canadians are for protecting unborn children to some degree. Whether its after from conception, 3 months, or 6months. Only 30% of Canadians are in favor of only protecting children after birth so that's that. The Pro choicers know this already. The statistics don't bear that claim out. But that's the funny about civil liberties, they don't rely in a constitutional democracy upon the sufferance of the majority. Even if you were right it wouldn't mean you had the right to deprive women of choice. But it's dead. Harper is not going to risk further eroding his hold on power by letting social reactionary blow hards like you upset the apple cart. You guys lost the battle a long time ago, and it would be nice if rather than endlessly going over the same ground again and again, without a shred of a hope that you can do anything else other than embarrass your betters in your party, that you'd find something else to whine about. Quote
Molly Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Folks can be guaranteed to react strongly to it, though, every single time. Even if it is a guaranteed road to opposition status for the Conservatives, it is always disconcerting when folks speak of taking a vote on it for the same reason that say... blacks would find it disconcerting to have a vote on enforced segregation, or Catholics would find it disconcerting if to hear somone suggest stripping Christians of their citizenship. It's personal. Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Abortion is the leading cause of death in the western world by a long shot. An abortion happens at the rate of more than 1 per second everyday around the world. The abortion law was never voted on, it was rammed through the back door by the courts by that traitor. Parliament makes our laws not the courts. Abortion causes great harm to the woman and can cause permanent internal damage. Pictures of aborted babies Here Here and here After looking at those photos, try and tell me that those dead babies aren't human beings. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Who's Doing What? Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 So we ban abortion, what then? Do we ban the morning after pill aswell? There will be thousands of new babies, born into families who either didn't want them or were not ready for them. The tax payers will be handing out billions more in beer and popcorn money. Not to mention the hefty mothers allowance for those who don't or can't work. Stupid, stupid idea. Personally I don't want to go back to the days of young women dying because they used a coathanger to give themselves an abortion in their bathroom. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
Molly Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) 'Abortion causes great harm to the woman and can cause permanent internal damage' Childbirth has a maternal fatality rate of 6/100,000, and a serious morbidity rate of 1/250. Therapeutic abortion does not. The question of which is physically safer for a woman is very well established. Your case is not made stronger by misrepresentation. Edited January 3, 2009 by Molly Quote "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!" — L. Frank Baum "For Conservatives, ministerial responsibility seems to be a temporary and constantly shifting phenomenon," -- Goodale
margrace Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Abortion is the leading cause of death in the western world by a long shot. An abortion happens at the rate of more than 1 per second everyday around the world.The abortion law was never voted on, it was rammed through the back door by the courts by that traitor. Parliament makes our laws not the courts. Abortion causes great harm to the woman and can cause permanent internal damage. Pictures of aborted babies Here Here and here After looking at those photos, try and tell me that those dead babies aren't human beings. So we go back to illegal abortions and back street butchers. You have a strange idea of what it was like before. Quote
jdobbin Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Abortion causes great harm to the woman and can cause permanent internal damage. Yet you are a hypocrite who supports a party that doesn't make legislation a priority. You also says it isn't one of your top priorities. That makes you a supporter of death. Time to face up to your role in all this. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) So we go back to illegal abortions and back street butchers. You have a strange idea of what it was like before. No, we go back to traditional family values and moral living. We go back to living a clean life and not partaking in massive drug and alcohol abuses. We go back to teaching no sex before marriage in public schools. We go back to actually parenting our kids and not letting the TV and Xbox do the job. We go back to letting kids be kids and not grow up so fast. More results of abortions. Click for images. Don't worry they aren't human beings according to BC_Chick, Lester_DC, WIP, jdobbin, eyeball, Jerry j. Fortin, Dr.Greenthumb, Molly, fellowtraveller, smallc, punked When I find more I'll add them to my list of posters who don't believe that aborted babies are human beings. Drea and White.Doors are not quite in the group above as they do support some abortion reform. Welcome to the human race. In the Spring or Summer I'll be setting up outside an Abortion Clinic using enlarged graphic Images. I'll also be planning to use comments made here on MLW. I plan to let the Pro-Choicers know so that they show up and in turn the media will be there as well. It's going to be a war. Edited January 3, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Peter F Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 Don't worry they aren't human beings according to BC_Chick, Lester_DC, WIP, jdobbin, eyeball, Jerry j. Fortin, Dr.Greenthumb, Molly, fellowtraveller, smallc, punked When I find more I'll add them to my list of posters who don't believe that aborted babies are human beings. add Peter F please and thanks Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
msj Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Not sure if "Mr. Canada" is trying to threaten this community with his black lists, but if we don't stand up to these types then we can expect them to rear their ugly heads further into public life to the point of Inquisitions or Tiananmen Squares. So, add me to your black list too. Edited January 3, 2009 by msj Quote If a believer demands that I, as a non-believer, observe his taboos in the public domain, he is not asking for my respect but for my submission. And that is incompatible with a secular democracy. Flemming Rose (Dutch journalist) My biggest takeaway from economics is that the past wasn't as good as you remember, the present isn't as bad as you think, and the future will be better than you anticipate. Morgan Housel http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2016/01/14/things-im-pretty-sure-about.aspx
Mr.Canada Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) Not sure if "Mr. Canada" is trying to threaten this community with his black lists, but if we don't stand up to these types then we can expect them to rear their ugly heads further into public life to the point of Inquisitions or Tiananmen Squares.So, add me to your black list too. So you don't believe the babies in these pictures were human beings before being killed? If not you'll be added. Results of abortions. & More dead babies from abortions Click for images. Ah Msj and PeterF I need you to type that they aren't human beings or something to that effect before I can use it. Thanks. Edited January 3, 2009 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Peter F Posted January 3, 2009 Report Posted January 3, 2009 (edited) So you don't believe the babies in these pictures were human beings before being killed? If not you'll be added. Results of abortions. & More dead babies from abortions Click for images. Ah Msj and PeterF I need you to type that they aren't human beings or something to that effect before I can use it. Thanks. what in idiot.... Fetuses have no legal rights nor can they be considered legal human beings until born. A woman can terminate her unwanted pregnancy whenever she so desires. I am a socialist I reject the christ Clear enough for ya? Edited January 3, 2009 by Peter F Quote A bayonet is a tool with a worker at both ends
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