charter.rights Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 nor are they good for hanging on your keys... Actually you have to dry them out real good first and then they are perfect as a key fob..... Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
Oleg Bach Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Neither the sperm or the egg have sentience. They are not "alive" but are part of the body. A fetus is nothing more than a woman's appendage and until it begins to have a thought process that is separate from the women, it is no more alive than a fingernail. Sperm are half alive - still I feel guilty about flushing the poor mulititude of potential half lifers down the toilet...I just hate the word "fetus" - as if it were some sort of diseased tooth that needs a root canal. The second the sperm unites with the egg successfully - you have life...but we wage war and kill innocent people that are full term adults - thousands dead in Iraq for no good reason -- Thousands executed in China for no good reason and not a peep out of the human rights guys...so I guess that killing humans big or small is exceptable in general - Not to mention the end of life abortion that takes place regularly in our old folks homes....I met a nurse who in private squirted a syringe of morphine into the air - and plainly looked me in the eye and said "This is what we use to get rid of old people" - The abortion debate should be abandoned and we should concentrate on human rights and the right to life of all...small - large - young and very old. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 11, 2009 Author Report Posted January 11, 2009 Once conception occurs, a new life begins to grow. This strong fact cannot be argued. If it isn't a new life then what is it if it isn't alive? Cells divide and divide over and over again from a single cell, therefore is a life. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 11, 2009 Report Posted January 11, 2009 Cells divide and divide over and over again from a single cell, therefore is a life. So what do you think about eating meat then? Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 So what do you think about eating meat then? The animal is dead before I eat it. I'm not with PETA and don't believe animals are people like those wackos do. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) You never said anything about people. You said there was something wrong with ending a life. Are animals not alive? Edited January 12, 2009 by Smallc Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 You never said anything about people. You said there was something wrong with ending a life. Are animals not alive? I had a feeling this is what you're getting at. Animals are here to serve man as is outlined in the Bible and are therefore a lower life form from humans. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 (edited) Why? Is it because they don't have sentients? Edited January 12, 2009 by Smallc Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 Why? Is it because they don't have sentients? I have no idea why, could be. I don't know, I'm not a biologist. AFAIK humans have always harvested and eaten animals. Where you going with this Smallc? Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Smallc Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 Where you going with this Smallc? I'm saying that we kill already living things all of the time and it still allowed. People don't even agree on whether or not a fetus is alive, so I don't see things changing when it comes to abortion until we can find some type of alternative. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted January 12, 2009 Author Report Posted January 12, 2009 I'm saying that we kill already living things all of the time and it still allowed. People don't even agree on whether or not a fetus is alive, so I don't see things changing when it comes to abortion until we can find some type of alternative. It won't change right away, of coarse it will take time for the message to get out there. To get the images into peoples heads of dead babies. Once this happens things will change. If not, they won't. That is the Pro-Choice side's power. They block the images cause they know if normal people equate abortion with dead babies and not womens choice it's over. Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Oleg Bach Posted January 12, 2009 Report Posted January 12, 2009 It won't change right away, of coarse it will take time for the message to get out there. To get the images into peoples heads of dead babies. Once this happens things will change. If not, they won't. That is the Pro-Choice side's power. They block the images cause they know if normal people equate abortion with dead babies and not womens choice it's over. Abortion is just plain bad - If the baby grew out side the womb....say in a clear plastic canister biologically engineered and worn on the womans stomach...and that woman or some doctor took a hammer and bashed the thing to death - people would be up in arms over the killing of the little infant human - but because children are out of site and out of mind during pregnancy...we kill them with little thought. Because the child is internal and not seen it is easy to de-humanize that child...it's quite simple - if pro- abortionists had to remove an unborn child from the mother - and smash it with a hammer personally - NO ONE WOULD BE SO PROUD OF THE "CHOICE" - AND ALL WOULD DISTAIN ABORTION. Quote
BigAl Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 I don't see how the Socialists can argue this. Human Life begins at conception and all abortion is murder of that life. Very simple.If it doesn't then what is it at conception? When does it become human life and why? It's a tough question Mr. Canada, but I tend to associate human life with intelligence. If you can provide me solid, irrefutable proof of when consciousness manifests itself, I might change my opinion, but for the moment I figure there needs to be neural activity for it to qualify as "life" in the sense that you're talking about, and as far as I know, fertilized embryos don't have that. Quote
guyser Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 It's a tough question Mr. Canada, but I tend to associate human life with intelligence. Hmm...so you are saying Mr C is not a human life? I suspect some will agree with you. Quote
BigAl Posted January 16, 2009 Report Posted January 16, 2009 Hmm...so you are saying Mr C is not a human life?I suspect some will agree with you. I shouldn't be laughing at that. Clearly Mr. Canada is a smart guy, or he wouldn't be able to keep up on a forum like this. But... It was still funny. Quote
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