Religious Right in Canada

SocDem · January 28, 2009

The Canadian public is morally bankrupt and socially irresponsible something must be done to reverse this trend. The politically correct secular socialists are trumping Canadian born citizen's rights in order to push their agenda upon us. Their agenda of immorality coupled with the materialism of Hollywood. We must resist their agenda of political correctness and their bleeding hearts and trade them for affordable compassion and traditional common sense. Not fearing the pc horde and calling a spade a spade.

Wow, the agenda of the secularist is purposefully immorality because we hate Canada so much. I assume by traditional common sense you mean tenements of the bible such as stoning non believers and sodomites to death and giving away all our money because it is easier for an elephant to pass through the eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to enter heaven right? By the way Jesus also said that his followers could drink poison and not be harmed by it, try that out and see how it works.

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

Can you show some proof of that the Canadian people are morally bankrupt?

Look at the drug addicts, hookers, homeless, mentally ill, gang banger's, the growing abortion factories for proof.

M.Dancer · January 28, 2009

The mentally ill are morally bankrupt?

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

The mentally ill are morally bankrupt?

Ah, I caught one. I was wondering who would catch that.

No, society is because we don't look after them sufficiently and many of them end up being homeless when they need to be in a hospital receiving the proper care they deserve. It makes me very sad that the mentally ill Canadians get overlooked so the Premier isn't late for his photo op.

M.Dancer · January 28, 2009

Ah, I caught one. I was wondering who would catch that.
No, society is because we don't look after them sufficiently and many of them end up being homeless when they need to be in a hospital receiving the proper care they deserve. It makes me very sad that the mentally ill Canadians get overlooked so the Premier isn't late for his photo op.

So you purposely post idiotic statements to see who will call yoiu on it?

Is that like earlier today when you link to sites that show that you are wrong?

Is it morally bankrupt to be an intellectual masochist?

Smallc · January 28, 2009

Look at the drug addicts, hookers, homeless, mentally ill, gang banger's, the growing abortion factories for proof.

Show me some proof of those things. All you've done so far is make mindless statements.

Oh, and what is an "abortion factory"? What exactly do they manufacture?

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

We must push ahead in the face of persecution to join the Tories and hopefully raise the number of so con's so we can have a more Reform type policies introduced and passed into law once we gain our majority. Then we can reverse the tide of everything PETrudeau has done to try and destroy Canada. Which has been continued by the decade of decadence of the PC and Liberal governments.

CANADIEN · January 28, 2009

As I've said. I would cut nearly all foreign aid and cut all non-important programs, freeze wages and lower corporate taxes by quite a bit.

Cutting nearly all foreign aid, right? Mind if I ask your opinion of Populorum Progrssio, or Tertio Millennio Adveniente, and what they say on the issue of roeign aid? As a Catholic, you should know what I am talking about.

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Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

Cutting nearly all foreign aid, right? Mind if I ask your opinion of Populorum Progrssio, or Tertio Millennio Adveniente, and what they say on the issue of roeign aid? As a Catholic, you should know waht I am talking about.

It's time to start looking inward and fix what's wrong with Canada. That takes money. When we cut off the wasted aid it would save us a bundle. Dump the Queen, become a republic, rebuild the military so we can defend our own borders, cut foreign aid, cut immigration to a sustainable level, perhaps opt out of the UN and NATO. Limit abortion, bring back capital punishment, restore the traditional meaning of marriage. Once we raise the level of Canadian's quality of life then we can start helping others.

This is my idea of Utopia.

Smallc · January 28, 2009

Dump the Queen, become a republic

And what exactly would that achieve? Certainly not very conservative of you.

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Smallc · January 28, 2009

Once we raise the level of Canadian's quality of life then we can start helping others.

Oh, and how much higher do you want it to be? We have the third highest human development index score in the world...and given recent happenings in Iceland, we may be up to second. We live very comfortable lives. Things can always improve, but don't try to pretend Canada is some type of hell hole. We should always work to make things better, but that doesn't mean we should help doing good work around the world.

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Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

Oh, and how much higher do you want it to be? We have the third highest human development index score in the world...and given recent happenings in Iceland, we may be up to second. We live very comfortable lives. Things can always improve, but don't try to pretend Canada is some type of hell hole. We should always work to make things better, but that doesn't mean we should help doing good work around the world.

If we didn't spend all this money perhaps we could have free education for everyone, well Canadians and better health care.

Smallc · January 28, 2009

free education for everyone, well Canadians and better health care.

I doubt that we spend enough money on foreign aid to do all of those things. Because of the money we spend though, some people in Haiti get to eat, and others in Afghanistan get to go to school and have some type of chance at a future.

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

I doubt that we spend enough money on foreign aid to do all of those things. Because of the money we spend though, some people in Haiti get to eat, and others in Afghanistan get to go to school and have some type of chance at a future.

When do we look after our own? Never it would seem. We send out Billions in aid every year and get nothing back. If we're helping the poor Haitians what are they doing for us? We can't exploit them in any way so what's the point? If they're going to die then they;re going to die. Billions of my dollars isn't going to stop that. Africa has been getting Billions every year since 1970's and they still can't get it together. Are we really that much smarter then them? This welfare for no return has to end.

SocDem · January 28, 2009

It's time to start looking inward and fix what's wrong with Canada. That takes money. When we cut off the wasted aid it would save us a bundle. Dump the Queen, become a republic, rebuild the military so we can defend our own borders, cut foreign aid, cut immigration to a sustainable level, perhaps opt out of the UN and NATO. Limit abortion, bring back capital punishment, restore the traditional meaning of marriage. Once we raise the level of Canadian's quality of life then we can start helping others.
This is my idea of Utopia.

Ok, there is no way anyone believes this. Opt out of the UN huh? What would that accomplish? Lets ask Mussolini, or Hitler. Capital punishment doesnt prevent crimes, there is evidence to the contrary:

Link:

http://www.deltacollege.edu/org/deltawinds...athpenalty.html

Limiting abortion is limiting civil liberties. Closing borders, a bigger military, it sounds to me as if your Utopia is a police state.

Smallc · January 28, 2009

When do we look after our own?

Every day. We are truly blessed to live in this country where all people have the opportunity to succeed and those that can't or won't are looked after. Even the majority of homeless people in Canada have it better than the average Haitian.

We can't exploit them in any way so what's the point? If they're going to die then they're going to die.

Saying things like that must make you feel like a good Christian I suppose. I find the statements above to be beyond disgusting.

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

Ok, there is no way anyone believes this. Opt out of the UN huh? What would that accomplish? Lets ask Mussolini, or Hitler. Capital punishment doesnt prevent crimes, there is evidence to the contrary:
Link:

http://www.deltacollege.edu/org/deltawinds...athpenalty.html

Limiting abortion is limiting civil liberties. Closing borders, a bigger military, it sounds to me as if your Utopia is a police state.

\They say jails don't work either so should we let all the criminals go and make murder and rape legal?

The death penalty would prevent that person from committing that crime again since he'd be dead. Good enough for me.

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SocDem · January 28, 2009

\They say jails don't work either so should we let all the criminals go and make murder and rape legal?
The death penalty would prevent that person from committing that crime again since he'd be dead.

Is the prison system a broken system? Maybe. But It is clear that nation and states that enforce capital punishment have a higher crime rate than those who do not. Actually read the article I posted.

So if you agree all you want is a vindictive system. That is not moral high ground. I believe it was Christ who said "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone." Capital punishment isn't of Christian values. This is why people look at social conservatives as sheep.

Smallc · January 28, 2009

If you missed my post above Mr. Canada, make sure to read it.

blueblood · January 28, 2009

\They say jails don't work either so should we let all the criminals go and make murder and rape legal?
The death penalty would prevent that person from committing that crime again since he'd be dead. Good enough for me.

Murder is the one crime no matter what you do, a person cannot stop. You can have the death penalty, you can quadruple the amt. of police prescense. If a person wants someone whacked, they will find a way and damn the consequences.

All the death penalty does is a cheap way of justice, which there can be no appeals for.

punked · January 28, 2009

Murder is the one crime no matter what you do, a person cannot stop. You can have the death penalty, you can quadruple the amt. of police prescense. If a person wants someone whacked, they will find a way and damn the consequences.
All the death penalty does is a cheap way of justice, which there can be no appeals for.

It is true you know why? Becuase no one who murders someone thinks they will get caught, or they do it out of passion. No matter the punishment it will still happen.

scorpio · January 28, 2009

The death penalty would prevent that person from committing that crime again since he'd be dead. Good enough for me.

Yeah, but what does Benny say on the matter?

WIP · January 28, 2009

\They say jails don't work either so should we let all the criminals go and make murder and rape legal?
The death penalty would prevent that person from committing that crime again since he'd be dead. Good enough for me.

And that might work if you kill the right person. Many convicts have been freed after DNA evidence revealed that they could not have committed the crimes, and that the testimony of witnesses and circumstantial evidence was bogus. Some of the cases, like the Guy Paul Morin case for example, illustrate how far police depts. are willing to go in order to frame a suspect that they have picked as the most likely culprit. DNA testing has also unfortunately revealed that the wrong suspect was executed.

But, let's put your rhetoric to the test on the death penalty. Since you have this in your signature line: "Pro Choicers advocate for killing babies," that means that women having abortions, and the doctors who perform them are murderers! Are you going to advocate applying the death penalty for abortion?

CANADIEN · January 28, 2009

It's time to start looking inward and fix what's wrong with Canada. That takes money. When we cut off the wasted aid it would save us a bundle. Dump the Queen, become a republic, rebuild the military so we can defend our own borders, cut foreign aid, cut immigration to a sustainable level, perhaps opt out of the UN and NATO. Limit abortion, bring back capital punishment, restore the traditional meaning of marriage. Once we raise the level of Canadian's quality of life then we can start helping others.
This is my idea of Utopia.

Dodgin the question, I see.

Speaking of the death penalty, you are of course aware of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church Care to comment?

Mr.Canada · January 28, 2009

Dodgin the question, I see.
Speaking of the death penalty, you are of course aware of the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church Care to comment?

I don't wish to coddle criminals like you people do. I'm an advocate of harsh punishment and much longer jail sentences. I understand that you people feel that murderers are just misunderstood nice kind people, not me, sorry. Unless you've been effected by violent crime you'll never understand the impact it has on your family. An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth is what I believe CANADIEN.

I know you wouldn't mind living next door to a murderer and rapist who serves little time for his crimes and let your kids play with him alone but not everyone has your level of forgiveness, I certainly don't. If that's my sin, then it's mine to bare and confess.

I don't forgive murderers and rapists and won't let my kids play at his house unsupervised like a fellow I met CANADIEN. I'll confess exactly that this Saturday and I'll try to forgive murderers and rapists as you do. Thank you for that.

Being Catholic doesn't mean I live without sin because I choose to live my life by a higher authority.

Death penalty for people who are proven without a doubt by DNA or 2+ eye witnesses murderers otherwise life in prison. That means life, not 25 years. Life without parole.

I don't really care what a murderer felt before, during or after he killed someone. He gave up that right when he killed a fellow citizen.

Edited January 28, 2009 by Mr.Canada