Keepitsimple Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 Yup. That's how they did it. And the Tories defended the EI case all the way to the Supreme Court.Now, we have Tories about to head Canada back into deficit. And what are they considering doing? Another GST cut. There's a difference between what is legal and what is right and to use YOUR term..'Ottawa" has the responsibility of defending what is legal. Do you really think Canadians would have said it was OK to overcharge for EI premiums and reduce what people could collect....I think not. They did it by stealth. But as I said, the Leftist media never made a big deal out of it - as they would have if it was perpetrated by Conservatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 There's a difference between what is legal and what is right and to use YOUR term..'Ottawa" has the responsibility of defending what is legal. Do you really think Canadians would have said it was OK to overcharge for EI premiums and reduce what people could collect....I think not. They did it by stealth. But as I said, the Leftist media never made a big deal out of it - as they would have if it was perpetrated by Conservatives. How is it that the leftist media endorses the Conservatives so regularly? I certainly didn't endorse what the Liberals did. I had no problem the legal transfer of surpluses that happened as a result of more people working. I also had no problem with reducing some of the benefits as a few of them caused structural unemployment where companies and employees used the government as a support system rather than an insurance system. I disagreed with keeping the deductions high just to transfer surpluses. I thought it was inappropriate but legal. Since it took this long to sort out, I suspect I was not the only one who thought it legal. The Tory government defended the actions of the previous government. If they were against it, they would have settled and paid back $54 billion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I went to the mailbox this morning, hoping for the government to return my money that they seized illegally, but the cheque wasn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 How is it that the leftist media endorses the Conservatives so regularly?I certainly didn't endorse what the Liberals did. I had no problem the legal transfer of surpluses that happened as a result of more people working. I also had no problem with reducing some of the benefits as a few of them caused structural unemployment where companies and employees used the government as a support system rather than an insurance system. I disagreed with keeping the deductions high just to transfer surpluses. I thought it was inappropriate but legal. Since it took this long to sort out, I suspect I was not the only one who thought it legal. The Tory government defended the actions of the previous government. If they were against it, they would have settled and paid back $54 billion. This eerily parallels on native land claims. The federal gov't of today didn't do anything to them in the early 1900's, yet they still have to go to court and defend the government. If the tories paid back the 54 billion, you'd be having a fit complaining about radical spending. It happened, it sucks, it won't happen again, next issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alta4ever Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 This eerily parallels on native land claims. The federal gov't of today didn't do anything to them in the early 1900's, yet they still have to go to court and defend the government. If the tories paid back the 54 billion, you'd be having a fit complaining about radical spending. It happened, it sucks, it won't happen again, next issue. Canadians could demand that the goverment of the day be charged Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted December 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 This eerily parallels on native land claims. The federal gov't of today didn't do anything to them in the early 1900's, yet they still have to go to court and defend the government. Didn't do anything to them in the 1900s? If the tories paid back the 54 billion, you'd be having a fit complaining about radical spending. There is a surplus in EI now. The government just has to ensure that it isn't withdrawn to government coffers. That is how it is paid back if the Tories wich to so so. It happened, it sucks, it won't happen again, next issue. It won't? Seems to me that it has, it is and the government was told by the Supreme Court it can do it again as long as they get a mandate for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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