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After receiving Mr. Layton's letter, Bob Hurst, president of CTV News, informed Mr. Dion's office that the NDP were asking for their own - and equal airtime. "Mr Dion's office was not aware Mr. Layton was asking for time," said Mr. Hurst. "Mr. Layton's office did not consult with Mr. Dion.

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Could be. Looks like he has given up trying to woo Quebec though.

If this coallition thing goes through he's going to lose his Quebec seats anyway.

Then again, so will you guys. King Lucien and the royal court of the BQ will OWN that province.

"A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley

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OH I know but going on national TV in a NATIONAL address to lie to the canadian people... its really low.

Why is it "low"? What's wrong with our leaders talking to use directly? I wish they'd do it more often.

It might show desperation, and I'm probably not even going to bother to watch. I mean, what does he hope to accomplish?

But low is certainly the wrong term.

and as for the moles, mike duffy has said the same thing, that the moles are poping up everywhere.. and protesting outside of the GG's house are staffers that work for the con's from parliament hill. and that she might take note of if she's told about it.

I've been on this site for years. And you? I don't think I've seen you around before, stranger.

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It was a good speech...until he lied about democratic rights a second ago.

I didn't hear any lies....can you elaborate with a quote?

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I didn't hear any lies....can you elaborate with a quote?

The part about taking power without being elected. This is part of the westminister system of gov't like it or not.

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I didn't hear any lies....can you elaborate with a quote?

"The opposition doesn't have the democratic right to form a coalition with separatists" or something along those lines.

Two lies in one statement.

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And the Queen on speaker-phone...

That wouldn't be a bad idea, actually, or at least, some people from the palace.

That wouldn't be necessary if we appointed, as Governor General, a learned, august person of great depth and knowledge and experience. But instead we tend to appoint GGs purely for the optics. Nothing against the current occupant. She's done a fine job in what she's been given. But now that we need the governor general to do something really serious - don't you kind of wish her qualifications for the job hadn't consisted of: bilingual, black, female, Quebecer, photogenic.

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don't you kind of wish her qualifications for the job hadn't consisted of: bilingual, black, female, Quebecer, photogenic.

Oh, so Paul Martin talked to you about his reasoning for choosing her?

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That wouldn't be a bad idea, actually, or at least, some people from the palace.

That wouldn't be necessary if we appointed, as Governor General, a learned, august person of great depth and knowledge and experience. But instead we tend to appoint GGs purely for the optics. Nothing against the current occupant. She's done a fine job in what she's been given. But now that we need the governor general to do something really serious - don't you kind of wish her qualifications for the job hadn't consisted of: bilingual, black, female, Quebecer, photogenic.

We do that because crises of this kind are so extraordinarily rare. It's not generally supposed to be a position for learned, august people, but for former political allies and beautiful people.

I'm wondering, if minority governments are indeed going to be the norm for the foreseeable future, if future PM's might be advised to select a constitutional expert. That's the one thing Britain's got that we don't; a monarch who has spent more than half a century working with governments and parliaments of various moods and stripes. If we're going to have a constitutional monarchy, I'm wondering whether we should dispense with the vice-regal position and simply ask the Queen or maybe Prince Charles who is behaving more as a regent nowadays to spend a part of the year here.

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Oh, so Paul Martin talked to you about his reasoning for choosing her?

Yes. He used the same sort of reasoning in filling Supreme Court seats.

Yet another reason I lost all respect for Paul Martin.

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Oh, so Paul Martin talked to you about his reasoning for choosing her?

If not for her colour, gender, looks and roots, maybe he chose Jean because of her stint at Radio Canada and the CBC. Adrienne Clarkson, chosen by the Liberals, was also a former CBC employee.

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"The opposition doesn't have the democratic right to form a coalition with separatists" or something along those lines.

Two lies in one statement.

Just cause something is legal that don't make it right.

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Just cause something is legal that don't make it right.

When its part of our democratic system, it makes it legitimate, democratic, and jsut as right as anything else that could happen within the confines of the system.

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If not for her colour, gender, looks and roots, maybe he chose Jean because of her stint at Radio Canada and the CBC. Adrienne Clarkson, chosen by the Liberals, was also a former CBC employee.

The PM does not choose the GG. According to the the constitution, the PM makes a list of candidates that he deems worthy. That list is sent to the Queen and she selects the GG.

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She was, IMO, an excellent Governor General.

I never said she wasn't. Mind you, Clarkson never faced the situation awaiting the current GG. Let's see how she handles it.

"We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers

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"The opposition doesn't have the democratic right to form a coalition with separatists" or something along those lines.

Two lies in one statement.

Well, given that Dion during the election pledged he wouldn't enter into any coalitions.....so any votes for him hypothetically are without a coalition mandate...yeah, he could make that argument.

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When its part of our democratic system, it makes it legitimate, democratic, and jsut as right as anything else that could happen within the confines of the system.

Remember its one vote to a customer. Are you willing to take that to the electorate. The tories may be handcuffed by a legal loophole, but they have the moral highground.

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I never said she wasn't. Mind you, Clarkson never faced the situation awaiting the current GG. Let's see how she handles it.

Yes, that will be interesting. You know that she also holds the power to disolve goverment on her own, if I remember by Grade 6 history correctly.

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The tories may be handcuffed by a legal loophole

Its not a loophole, its how Westminster Parliamentary Democracy functions.

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The PM does not choose the GG. According to the the constitution, the PM makes a list of candidates that he deems worthy. That list is sent to the Queen and she selects the GG.

And there is nothing wrong with having an absolutely stunningly gorgeous GG....even the queen was quite the looker in her day...

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The PM does not choose the GG. According to the the constitution, the PM makes a list of candidates that he deems worthy. That list is sent to the Queen and she selects the GG.

No list of names is sent to the Queen. The PM puts forward his selection and the Queen rubber stamps it.

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She was, IMO, an excellent Governor General.

She disappointed me the longer she was viceroy; her coup de grace was when, after she had been replaced by Mme. Jean, she told Don Newman that the Governor General represented the Crown but not the Queen. Huh? :blink: And watching the goings on at Rideau Hall since Clarkson's departure, it seems Government House staff are still operating under this impression.

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The PM does not choose the GG. According to the the constitution, the PM makes a list of candidates that he deems worthy. That list is sent to the Queen and she selects the GG.

The constitution makes so such claim. There was, I think, a convention of putting a list forward to the Queen, but that practice ended with Trudeau.

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