Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 you know online petitions are just as useful as pissing into the wind...contact your MP's by letter express your issues and beliefs. Thanks, mjp, for a breath of reality on online petitions. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
whowhere Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Harpers arrogance is coming home to roost. Canada Constitution has no mention of a Prime Minister, the position is a creation of the elected members who form the goverment. Harper did not get a majority of elected seats in parliament. So therefore most of Canada did not want a conservative Prime Minister or Goverment. Harper, OUT, Get out NoW Quote Job 40 (King James Version) 11 Cast abroad the rage of thy wrath: and behold every one that is proud, and abase him. 12 Look on every one that is proud, and bring him low; and tread down the wicked in their place. 13 Hide them in the dust together; and bind their faces in secret.
Alta4ever Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Honestly. I know you believe all that but I would invite you to join reality with the facts.The Bloc has been convinced not to vote against the Coalition during any confidence motions. That's it. No veto power, no special backroom deals. No concessions. No under the table dealings. No senate appointments. Keep deluding yourself Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
Alta4ever Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Harpers arrogance is coming home to roost. Canada Constitution has no mention of a Prime Minister, the position is a creation of the elected members who form the goverment. Harper did not get a majority of elected seats in parliament. So therefore most of Canada did not want a conservative Prime Minister or Goverment.Harper, OUT, Get out NoW Harper is still the PM until the confiednce vote. Who Were I don't care were you go but please go now. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
White Doors Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Honestly. I know you believe all that but I would invite you to join reality with the facts.The Bloc has been convinced not to vote against the Coalition during any confidence motions. That's it. No veto power, no special backroom deals. No concessions. No under the table dealings. No senate appointments. There is no doubt however that the Coalition would have to seek the Bloc's input into any budgets, or for the Speech from the Throne to ensure that Quebec's interests are represented. Stephen Harper would require no less by seeking cooperation from any of the opposition parties in order to successfully pass and vote of confidence. Your fear mongering and hysteria gets in the way of your learning anything about the way that Parliament (especially a minority one) or politics in general works. Cooperation and consensus is a necessary component since Harper did not receive a mandate from the public to rule exclusively. We asked him to join with the other parities to make Parliament work for the next 23 months. He has demonstrated that he isn't interested in that and now will pay the ultimate consequence of losing power. If the GG allow him to take this country to a general election I have no doubt that it will demonstrate that not only has he lost the confidence of Parliament and with it the ability to govern co-cooperatively, but he will have lost the confidence of the voters - those from Quebec that he has insulted and accused as traitors and those from the rest of the country that are not only pissed off with the cost and inconvenience of another election, but who are incensed that the economy gets shoved to a back burner while he tries to wrestle power from the majority will of Canadians. Harper can't win and I highly doubt that he could even receive concessions now from the opposition to make this Parliament. I do believe that the only choice the GG has is to accept the majority will of Canadians and allow the Coalition to take the reigns. Whether that lasts or not is dependent on a number of delicate decisions. But in a time of economic crisis that is what we really need anyway - not some bullish partisan attacks without any serious economic stimulus. I treat your analysis of the political situation with the same seriousness and credibilty as your assertion that the best time of year to build roads is in the winter. lol Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
charter.rights Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 I treat your analysis of the political situation with the same seriousness and credibilty as your assertion that the best time of year to build roads is in the winter.lol Coming from you that is a compliment. Maybe you should see what the rest of the country does in winter. Your isolation gives you little credibility. Quote “Safeguarding the rights of others is the most noble and beautiful end of a human being.” Kahlil Gibran “Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds.” Albert Einstein
White Doors Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Coming from you that is a compliment. Maybe you should see what the rest of the country does in winter. Your isolation gives you little credibility. My isolation? come again? Can anyone else from any other provinces fill our comrade in here about building roads in the winter? lol Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
blueblood Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Coming from you that is a compliment. Maybe you should see what the rest of the country does in winter. Your isolation gives you little credibility. Not build permanent highways... I'd hate to be a flagman sitting on the chair when it's 40 below with a wind. Quote "Stop the Madness!!!" - Kevin O'Leary "Money is the ultimate scorecard of life!". - Kevin O'Leary Economic Left/Right: 4.00 Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.77
capricorn Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 Thanks, mjp, for a breath of reality on online petitions. It's a way for mainstream Canadians to vent. Just from that perspective, those petitions are useful. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
White Doors Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 It's a way for mainstream Canadians to vent. Just from that perspective, those petitions are useful. And the politicians do pay attention, believe me. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Michael Hardner Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 It's a way for mainstream Canadians to vent. Just from that perspective, those petitions are useful. Cap, that's an excellent point. I would submit that posting to MapleLeaf, though, is a more positive contribution as it inevitably leads to education on the issues. Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Shakeyhands Posted December 4, 2008 Report Posted December 4, 2008 And the politicians do pay attention, believe me. Which ones? Quote "They muddy the water, to make it seem deep." - Friedrich Nietzsche
White Doors Posted December 5, 2008 Report Posted December 5, 2008 Which ones? The successfull one's. Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
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