Ahenakew Hate Crime Trial, Part Deux

BC_chick · November 24, 2008

Doesn't the difference disappear if we put your statement this way?:

Punching random people who are idiots is a personal act against that specific person for whatever reason, idiot or not. Beating people for their sexual orientation, OTOH, the victim has not done anything personally to the people assaulting them.

BC_chick · November 24, 2008

So the only acceptable position is one where you are forced to agree and to disagree breaks the law and lands one in jail?
Sounds like the dictatorship of Cuba, Iran or the old USSR to me.

Ironic, since you'd fit right in with the Iranians with your views below:

I wouldn't have my kids in public school but if I did I'd pull them immediately upon learning this. Parents are man and woman, that's it.
If my kids ask me if it's ok I'll say "hell no it isn't ok, the Bible tells us that it's immoral".

Oleg Bach · November 24, 2008

Ironic, since you'd fit right in with the Iranians with your views below:

A small nephew of mine who's crazed French Canadian mother insists that here 8 year old is gay...The kid asked me the other day ..."What do you think of this gay stuff" I replied "Gay is told to young kings like you so you will not have a queen...and never be a full king" In other words - don't listen to anyone other than yourself when it comes to your sexual or personal identy... There are people who do promote this crap and it amounts to sexual interference - It was not good enough for the kids mother to get sympathy and a bonus because the kid was mildly autistic - she wanted and autistic gay kid to boot. I wonder if she is considering painting the boy black and enrolling him in an Afro-centic gay autistic school---where creeps like her can get all that extra liberal stroking they need to feel like victims at the kids expense.

Mr.Canada · November 24, 2008

Ironic, since you'd fit right in with the Iranians with your views below:

In Iran they publicly hang gays. I don't agree with killing them I just don't want their way of life pushed onto me and have mu kids taught that it's ok because it isn't to me. To me it's immoral and I should be free to feel that way.

Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be. It's disgusting but I don't wish any harm to them.

I want to be free to disagree with their lifestyle choice without being hauled before a tribunal.

Oleg Bach · November 24, 2008

In Iran they publicly hang gays. I don't agree with killing them I just don't want their way of life pushed onto me and have mu kids taught that it's ok because it isn't to me. To me it's immoral and I should be free to feel that way.
Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be. It's disgusting but I don't wish any harm to them.

I want to be free to disagree with their lifestyle choice without being hauled before a tribunal.

There is a bottom guy (non-sexual gay) and the top guy - usually a hetro sodomist who has convince himself the world that he is gay.. These aggressive submissive relationships are not based on love but on pure hedonistic domination and usery - it's about power - and I agree - this is not beautiful...If two naturally gay men embrace and are in need of each other - fine - I just don't support the hetro sodomists...and they do exist.

BC_chick · November 24, 2008

In Iran they publicly hang gays. I don't agree with killing them I just don't want their way of life pushed onto me and have mu kids taught that it's ok because it isn't to me. To me it's immoral and I should be free to feel that way.

Here's what you said:

I wouldn't have my kids in public school but if I did I'd pull them immediately upon learning this. Parents are man and woman, that's it.
If my kids ask me if it's ok I'll say "hell no it isn't ok, the Bible tells us that it's immoral".

a ) So you don't want to kill gays.... but you are like in Iran in the sense that you're citing some ancient superstition as your justification for your intolerance.

b ) Two lesbian mothers taking their kids to the same school as your kid is NOT by any stretch of the imagination "pushing their lifestyle" onto you. If they were persuading you to leave your wife to play house with a dude... okay, you'd have a point.

Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be. It's disgusting but I don't wish any harm to them.

I swear, other than gay men, nobody thinks about gay sex as much as homphobes do.

In any case, 'beauty' is in the eye of the beholder. You're not in a position to define it for everyone on this earth.

Mr.Canada · November 24, 2008

Here's what you said:
a ) So you don't want to kill gays.... but you are like in Iran in the sense that you're citing some ancient superstition as your justification for your intolerance.

b ) Two lesbian mothers taking their kids to the same school as your kid is NOT by any stretch of the imagination "pushing their lifestyle" onto you. If they were persuading you to leave your wife to play house with a dude... okay, you'd have a point.

I swear, other than gay men, nobody thinks about gay sex as much as homphobes do.

In any case, 'beauty' is in the eye of the beholder. You're not in a position to define it for everyone on this earth.

I find it disgusting and revolting not because of religion or anything else. It just turns my stomach. It's disgusting and immoral.

You are arguing with me because I don't agree with the gay lifestyle choice and don't want it's repulsiveness pushed onto me and mine. When I say that I mean is that just because I disagree with it shouldn't mean I need to head to a tribunal.

See, just because I disagree with it that makes me a homophobe? LOL Just like I don't agree with wide open immigration makes me a racist.

Typical left wing guilt stick.

BC_chick · November 24, 2008

I find it disgusting and revolting not because of religion or anything else. It just turns my stomach. It's disgusting and immoral.
You are arguing with me because I don't agree with the gay lifestyle choice and don't want it's repulsiveness pushed onto me and mine. When I say that I mean is that just because I disagree with it shouldn't mean I need to head to a tribunal.

See, just because I disagree with it that makes me a homophobe? LOL Just like I don't agree with wide open immigration makes me a racist.

Typical left wing guilt stick.

Being 'repulsed' by gays is not homphobic..... right.

charter.rights · November 24, 2008

In Iran they publicly hang gays. I don't agree with killing them I just don't want their way of life pushed onto me and have mu kids taught that it's ok because it isn't to me. To me it's immoral and I should be free to feel that way.
Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be. It's disgusting but I don't wish any harm to them.

I want to be free to disagree with their lifestyle choice without being hauled before a tribunal.

You are free to believe what you want. You just can.t promote your xeno/homophobia as some sort of truth with the intent of getting others to hate people for their sexual preferences. But neither having a right to believe what you want makes you right to think that way.

Mr.Canada · November 24, 2008

Being 'repulsed' by gays is not homphobic..... right.

How am I afraid of gays? A phobia is a fear. I'm not afraid of them I just don't agree with their lifestyle choice. So what.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr.Canada

BC_chick · November 24, 2008

How am I afraid of gays? A phobia is a fear. I'm not afraid of them I just don't agree with their lifestyle choice. So what.
Just do the rest of us a favor ans stay in the cities we don't need them out here where normal Canadians live.

ho·mo·pho·bi·a (hō'mə-fō'bē-ə) Pronunciation Key
n.

Fear of or contempt for lesbians and gay men.

Behavior based on such a feeling.

You admit to being 'repulsed' by gays (first definition) and you say you would pull your kids out of a school where there happen to be gay parents (second definition).

guyser · November 24, 2008

I find it disgusting and revolting not because of religion or anything else. It just turns my stomach. It's disgusting and immoral.

Then stop doing it!

Its like Homer Simpson...Doc, it hurts when I whack myself, whack ouch whack ouch ....

Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be. It's disgusting but I don't wish any harm to them.

Its is beautiful to them.Maybe you doing the horizontal dance with your wife is not beautiful to them, but I dont see them making any bones about it.

Alta4ever · November 24, 2008

You admit to being 'repulsed' by gays (first definition) and you say you would pull your kids out of a school where there happen to be gay parents (second definition).

Just so you know you both are fighting a useless fight both veiws are protected by the charter, and to fight for acceptance of either view is a waste of time. why not just drop it?

BC_chick · November 25, 2008

Just so you know you both are fighting a useless fight both veiws are protected by the charter, and to fight for acceptance of either view is a waste of time. why not just drop it?

What did I say to give you the idea that I'm somehow trying to take away his right to his opinion?

Edited November 25, 2008 by BC_chick

Mr.Canada · November 25, 2008

What did I say to give you the idea that I'm somehow trying to take away his right to his opinion?

I just find it funny how left wing people label people who don't agree with them.

If I don't approve gays, I'm homophobic.

If I don't approve of wide open immigration, I'm a racist.

The left wing are so arrogant and do not want free speech.

kengs333 · November 25, 2008

You admit to being 'repulsed' by gays (first definition) and you say you would pull your kids out of a school where there happen to be gay parents (second definition).

I guess that means that gays are heterophobes, then...?

kengs333 · November 25, 2008

Then stop doing it!
Its like Homer Simpson...Doc, it hurts when I whack myself, whack ouch whack ouch ....

Its is beautiful to them.Maybe you doing the horizontal dance with your wife is not beautiful to them, but I dont see them making any bones about it.

Lame attempt at a pun...

The problem with your argument is that the human reproductive system was designed (or evolved) to involve a male and a female. The anus is intended for passing waste out of the body, not as an orface for sexual intercourse. The fact that this basic truth cannot be accepted by our society is indicative of how warped it has become.

Mr.Canada · November 25, 2008

Lame attempt at a pun...
The problem with your argument is that the human reproductive system was designed (or evolved) to involve a male and a female. The anus is intended for passing waste out of the body, not as an orface for sexual intercourse. The fact that this basic truth cannot be accepted by our society is indicative of how warped it has become.

Well I've finally found something you've said that makes sense. 100% agreed.

kengs333 · November 25, 2008

Here's what you said:
a ) So you don't want to kill gays.... but you are like in Iran in the sense that you're citing some ancient superstition as your justification for your intolerance.

Actually, the abnormaility of homosexuality can be proven through logical analysis. But I guess because logic pre-dates Christianity, it too is not legitimate...

It would seem to be that your "tolerance" of homosexuality is based on fear of being labelled a "bigot" and "homophobe"--a term that you yourself apparently like to bandy about.

b ) Two lesbian mothers taking their kids to the same school as your kid is NOT by any stretch of the imagination "pushing their lifestyle" onto you. If they were persuading you to leave your wife to play house with a dude... okay, you'd have a point.

Actually, yes it is. The child has become a pawn in their attempt to establish homosexuality as "normal".

I swear, other than gay men, nobody thinks about gay sex as much as homphobes do.

It's possible to discuss the concept without actually visualizing the act. If you talk about incest, do you actually visualize yourself engaging in incestuous relations?

charter.rights · November 25, 2008

Lame attempt at a pun...
The problem with your argument is that the human reproductive system was designed (or evolved) to involve a male and a female. The anus is intended for passing waste out of the body, not as an orface for sexual intercourse. The fact that this basic truth cannot be accepted by our society is indicative of how warped it has become.

Of course the mouth was meant for putting food in yet it produces great pleasure in both males and females.....even if it is as simple as a kiss......

charter.rights · November 25, 2008

Actually, the abnormaility of homosexuality can be proven through logical analysis. But I guess because logic pre-dates Christianity, it too is not legitimate...
It would seem to be that your "tolerance" of homosexuality is based on fear of being labelled a "bigot" and "homophobe"--a term that you yourself apparently like to bandy about.

Actually, yes it is. The child has become a pawn in their attempt to establish homosexuality as "normal".

It's possible to discuss the concept without actually visualizing the act. If you talk about incest, do you actually visualize yourself engaging in incestuous relations?

Homosexuality IS normal whether you agree or not.

Mr.Canada · November 25, 2008

Homosexuality IS normal whether you agree or not.

Perhaps in a big city like Toronto it's normal but outside the city it's decidedly abnormal. Gays make up 1% of the population. That's 1% of the population pushing their views on 99% of the population. Well gays and their lefty cronies.

I don't live or hang around areas where gays are normal so to me in my life they are some sort of anomaly. Perhaps where Charter.rights lives homosexuality is rampant and therefore normal. I don't choose to live in those areas any longer.

kengs333 · November 25, 2008

Homosexuality IS normal whether you agree or not.

A discussion surrounding the application of logic in determining the abnormality of homosexuality would necessitate on your part: a) an understanding of the concept of logic; the ability to think logically; c) intelligence. Since you possess none of these, any discussion is completely and totally useless.

Edited November 25, 2008 by kengs333

BC_chick · November 25, 2008

I just find it funny how left wing people label people who don't agree with them.

I quoted the dictionary whereby your opinions expressed on this thread were homophobic according to the definition thereof.... if you want to take that as an insult, it's your issue, not mine.

If I don't approve gays, I'm homophobic.

According to the definition of the word, yes, that's what a homophobe is.

BC_chick · November 25, 2008

It would seem to be that your "tolerance" of homosexuality is based on fear of being labelled a "bigot" and "homophobe"--a term that you yourself apparently like to bandy about.

See my post to Mr. C. above.

It's possible to discuss the concept without actually visualizing the act. If you talk about incest, do you actually visualize yourself engaging in incestuous relations?

No, as a matter of fact, I don't sit there 'visualising' explicit details sexual acts which I find repulsive. That's my point....

Sorry but a guy sticking his penis into another mans arse is not romantic at all and it's not a beautiful act, which is what love making is supposed to be.

Edited November 25, 2008 by BC_chick