LIberals cannot sell memberships...lol

[Smallc]

I now it's a lot of money that's why it's so serious an issue and why the Liberals cannot be trusted again. I hope you understand the severity of this smallc.

I've never heard the figure before.

[Shakeyhands]

Money flowed from the government which was the Liberals and Mr. Chretien. The $1.5 billion didn't flow all by itself a Liberal had to sign the papers. IF not than me or you could get billions too. ADScam was a the biggest theft in Canadian history. Mr.CHretien and the Liberals stole $1.5 billion from us, the Canadian taxpayer. You have to have a job to pay taxes so maybe that's why many on the left think it's ok to do this.

Mr Chretien "and the Liberals" did no such thing, in fact this whole thing was perpetrated by a couple of members of the Quebec wing, again, perhaps you should read Justice Gomery's findings.

[craiger]

I now it's a lot of money that's why it's so serious an issue and why the Liberals cannot be trusted again. I hope you understand the severity of this smallc.

best get your figures strait if you want any solid argument

[Mr.Canada]

The sponsorship scandal, "AdScam", "Sponsorship"or Sponsorgate, is a scandal that came as a result of a Canadian federal government "sponsorship program"...which was in power from 1993 to 2006

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I think that this clearly illustrates the facts. If not you may go to the link and see who was involved from Jean Chretien and Paul Martin on down. Hundreds of millions of dollars funneled down to their Quebec friends. And they are both from and live in Quebec...what a shock.

Then you have Layton saying the Liberals are corrupt then working with Martin and propping him up...lol. Left wing hypocrisy at its best.

Nothing to argue craiger, this is old news I didn't realize you weren't up on it. The Liberals are no longer in power ad are getting weaker everyday just fyi craiger in case you didn't know.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[Smallc]

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I think that this clearly illustrates the facts. If not you may go to the link and see who was involved from Jean Chretien and Paul Martin on down. Hundreds of millions of dollars funneled down to their Quebec friends. And they are both from and live in Quebec...what a shock.

Then you have Layton saying the Liberals are corrupt then working with Martin and propping him up...lol. Left wing hypocrisy at its best.

Nothing to argue craiger, this is old news I didn't realize you weren't up on it. The Liberals are no longer in power ad are getting weaker everyday just fyi craiger in case you didn't know.

And your money figures come from?

[Mr.Canada]

And your money figures come from?

Thank you for agreeing with me about the Liberal Adscam Sponsership Scandal that stole hindreds of millions of taxpayer money that lined Quebec friends of the Federal Liberals led by Jean Chretien and Paul Martin which Stephane Dion was a part of.

[Smallc]

Ok, back to the ignore list.

[Mr.Canada]

Ok, back to the ignore list.

Lol, who cares, honestly.

I come here for entertainment. It's not like anything we say will change this country.

[craiger]

Source

I think that this clearly illustrates the facts. If not you may go to the link and see who was involved from Jean Chretien and Paul Martin on down. Hundreds of millions of dollars funneled down to their Quebec friends. And they are both from and live in Quebec...what a shock.

Then you have Layton saying the Liberals are corrupt then working with Martin and propping him up...lol. Left wing hypocrisy at its best.

Nothing to argue craiger, this is old news I didn't realize you weren't up on it. The Liberals are no longer in power ad are getting weaker everyday just fyi craiger in case you didn't know.

few hundred million yes that sound much better from your billions I was not born long ago but not born yesterday son.

[daniel]

$1.5B?

Yes, we note that the right-wingers on this forum would make up facts.

[Mr.Canada]

few hundred million yes that sound much better from your billions I was not born long ago but not born yesterday son.

So stealing hundreds of billions of dollars is something you support and said it sounds better than a billion. I no longer question the type of person who would vote Liberal after they stole hundreds of millions of our dollars. Again, one must have a job in order to care about the theft I guess.

ADSCAM- $500 MILLION

Gun registry boondoogle - $2 BILLION

Green Shift - $40 BILLION

The Liberals have zero respect for taxpayers money.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Mr.Canada

[craiger]

So stealing hundreds of billions of dollars is something you support and said it sounds better than a billion. I no longer question the type of person who would vote Liberal after they stole hundreds of millions of our dollars. Again, one must have a job in order to care about the theft I guess.

ADSCAM- $500 MILLION

Gun registry boondoogle - $2 BILLION

Green Shift - $40 BILLION

The Liberals have zero respect for taxpayers money.

I am not fond of Liberals myself but at least under there rein I had a job, This putz we got now blew our surplus and more now wants to run some sort of justified defecit. May I remind you taxpayers payed $35billion in 2007 just in interest alone now Mr. Harper wants to go borrow more money and put us in debt farther

Also want to add it was MR. Harper who brought in 40 year mortgage he best be taking reposibility once the forcosures hit.

Edited November 24, 2008 by craiger

[Mr.Canada]

I am not fond of Liberals myself but at least under there rein I had a job, This putz we got now blew our surplus and more now wants to run some sort of justified defecit. May I remind you taxpayers payed $35billion in 2007 just in interest alone now Mr. Harper wants to go borrow more money and put us in debt farther

He was the best option out of the three.

[craiger]

He was the best option out of the three.

I voted for Harper but would disagree now I actually been paying much attention and Layton holds much moral ethical values for the working man. Plane as day what we need is protection for the working man and jobs Harper has failed misserbly in this area he's to much interest in his free trade and sending our money over seas

Edited November 24, 2008 by craiger

[Alta4ever]

I voted for Harper but would disagree now I actually been paying much attention and Layton holds much moral ethical values for the working man. Plane as day what we need is protection for the working man and jobs Harper has failed misserbly in this area he's to much interest in his free trade and sending our money over seas

Really what do think laytons corporate tax increases would have done to ensure more jobs.

I'm not sure what you do, but I doubt that Harper is directly to blame for your job. If you are in the auto sector, then you need to take a long hard look at the last 40 years of the results of an overly powerful union and its share in the downfall of the North American vehicle.

[craiger]

Really what do think laytons corporate tax increases would have done to ensure more jobs.

I'm not sure what you do, but I doubt that Harper is directly to blame for your job. If you are in the auto sector, then you need to take a long hard look at the last 40 years of the results of an overly powerful union and its share in the downfall of the North American vehicle.

Pipefitter welder and what gets me us locals get laid off and the temporary foreign workers gets to stay because of the work visa.

As for Layton he never said tax hikes for corperations what he said is no more handouts, not the same thing.

[Alta4ever]

Pipefitter welder and what gets me us locals get laid off and the temporary foreign workers gets to stay because of the work visa.

As for Layton he never said tax hikes for corperations what he said is no more handouts, not the same thing.

Layton did say corperate tax hikes. I can sympathize with you about the pipefiiter and welder as their are going to be huge layoffs in those areas here as well, but it has more to do with Stelmach and his change to the royalties and the end of another oil bubble here. We would bne going through this anyway though because of the stock market correction. I have no idea were you are from though and what the problems are to the local economy.

[Oleg Bach]

Both of you can not spell corporate?

[Alta4ever]

Both of you can not spell corporate?

Never really paid much attention to it. If you haven't noticed I don't take the time to proof read.

Edited November 24, 2008 by Alta4ever

[guyser]

And your money figures come from?

A fart.

Every time he does out pops another made up figure.

[craiger]

Layton did say corperate tax hikes. I can sympathize with you about the pipefiiter and welder as their are going to be huge layoffs in those areas here as well, but it has more to do with Stelmach and his change to the royalties and the end of another oil bubble here. We would bne going through this anyway though because of the stock market correction. I have no idea were you are from though and what the problems are to the local economy.

Acording to the SPP wich is a Federal deal they will be able to bring in mobilized labor forces and replace us all, there is nothing to protect our jobs and make sure we have jobs first 2020 they say

[Alta4ever]

Acording to the SPP wich is a Federal deal they will be able to bring in mobilized labor forces and replace us all, there is nothing to protect our jobs and make sure we have jobs first 2020 they say

In light of what is happening I am will to bet with in 2 years the tempory foreign worker programs will be put on hold.

[Mr.Canada]

Acording to the SPP wich is a Federal deal they will be able to bring in mobilized labor forces and replace us all, there is nothing to protect our jobs and make sure we have jobs first 2020 they say

Why not start your own company? If you have a trade you can start up your own co. The government can give you a grant to help get you started.

[craiger]

Why not start your own company? If you have a trade you can start up your own co. The government can give you a grant to help get you started.

I do have a company but they Ain't going to hire me when the polish welder comes in and works for $8/hour and I charge $85/hour or like Exon since they bought out Syncrude they laid off us steadys who built those plants to bring in south Americans and Chinese who work for ALLOT less. It is easy for them they don't own homes in Alberta or pay healthcare etc like we do they live in camp for a few years and take the money back home where it is actually worth something

only solution for us is to buy homes in the dominican republic or something and come here to work a few months a year and go live like a king the other rest of the year.

Edited November 26, 2008 by craiger

[guyser]

only solution for us is to buy homes in the dominican republic or something and come here to work a few months a year and go live like a king the other rest of the year.

Go next door, Haiti is much cheaper.