The Carbon Tax and lies

[independent]

That is right Slim. See Independant you only gave 28%, I as a business owner ould expect 100% just like I give everyday.

And my employees profit when I do. Do some research into companies in Canada and the best to work for in this country. You'll find my companies there. They are voted for by the employees of those companies.

I am quite sure I do not work for your company because I live in the real world. Your claims about how generous companies are in general is simply unrealistic. Even if you are as generous as you say those companies are few and far between. Companies are driven for profit. Especially companies owned by shareholders. There is total disconect between employees and the people than run the company. I earn my money as I am sure you do too. But do not lie too people and tell them a business will hire more people if you drop there taxes. If you hire more people than you need then someone is not working at 100%. Start being a little more honest and then maybe someone would believe you. If more people have the money too buy your product then you would have to hire more people too produce that product. You make more money and everyone is happy.

[TCCK]

If more people have the money too buy your product then you would have to hire more people too produce that product. You make more money and everyone is happy.

Holy CRAP you finally get it!!! I have been saying this over and over for 2 weeks now. Yes, listen one more time and you will see here this comes in.

1)Corporate Taxes are lowered, thus they can hire a few more people to do somethings they were wanting to be able to do but did not have the overhead to hire someone to do that.

2)That new person joins the company and pays taxes, buys items to live and other companies have more demand for thier products so they hire more people to meet the demands of more products being purchased.

3) those employees for those companies do the same and the great commercial society we live in grows and spends more money, thus earning taxes for the government and profits for the businesses.

It is a slow process to start but hen it starts the growth is exponential.

And yes there are some companies that are greed and self-centered to the gains of the highest in charge or shareholders but there are some that are like mine owned by a single person (or sometimes a group) and we make a good living do not get me wrong I love nice cars, houses, vacation and giving my wife nice jewelry regularly but there are those of us that uderstand we are able to do that BECAUSE of our employees and we give back to them when we are doing well because of thier efforts!

I never said I hire more people than I need, I did not get this successful by doing unwise, unbusinesslike decisions. Some charity/generousity beyond the norm is good to stretch yourself but too much is foolishness.

[independent]

Holy CRAP you finally get it!!! I have been saying this over and over for 2 weeks now. Yes, listen one more time and you will see here this comes in.

1)Corporate Taxes are lowered, thus they can hire a few more people to do somethings they were wanting to be able to do but did not have the overhead to hire someone to do that.

2)That new person joins the company and pays taxes, buys items to live and other companies have more demand for thier products so they hire more people to meet the demands of more products being purchased.

3) those employees for those companies do the same and the great commercial society we live in grows and spends more money, thus earning taxes for the government and profits for the businesses.

It is a slow process to start but hen it starts the growth is exponential.

And yes there are some companies that are greed and self-centered to the gains of the highest in charge or shareholders but there are some that are like mine owned by a single person (or sometimes a group) and we make a good living do not get me wrong I love nice cars, houses, vacation and giving my wife nice jewelry regularly but there are those of us that understand we are able to do that BECAUSE of our employees and we give back to them when we are doing well because of thier efforts!

I never said I hire more people than I need, I did not get this successful by doing unwise, unbusinesslike decisions. Some charity/generousity beyond the norm is good to stretch yourself but too much is foolishness.

You do something about the greed and self-centered companies and I would gladly help pressure the government to lower taxes. We come from two different worlds. I give 100% effort too the company I work for everyday because that was the way I was raised. What you claim and I see are total opposites.

[PoliticalCitizen]

I think the reason both can say the other is lying is that both are lying...

The only party that will NOT LIE to you about their commitment to protect the environment are the Greens.

[TCCK]

The only party that will NOT LIE to you about their commitment to protect the environment are the Greens.

Oh barf! Yes but I am not big on the stone ages so I wwwill skip voting for them.

The country would fall into anarchry.

[PoliticalCitizen]

Oh barf! Yes but I am not big on the stone ages so I wwwill skip voting for them.

The country would fall into anarchry.

LoL

[Argus]

When I was in the consulting business, I was expected to make at least 100% profit, and I did benefit from it.

You worked for Enron!?!? LOL

[eyeball]

It is a slow process to start but hen it starts the growth is exponential.

That's how a cancer works. I'm sure all the little cancer cells are happy little workers too.

Please don't get the impression I'm accusing you of deliberately making something dangerous but when you extrapolate what you've said about exponential growth to the entire economy I just have to wonder if there is any limit to growth in your, or I should say, our world?

Harper says it would be a disaster to bring in a carbon tax at this time. Am I to believe that he realizes something must be put into place at some point in time that accounts for the natural capital we're withdrawing from Earth's ecosystems to fuel the growth of our human economy?

Does Harper even recognize the concept of natural capital? I notice a lot of his supporters seem confused by the idea - like its not real or something.