jay22 Posted October 12, 2008 Report Posted October 12, 2008 (edited) Should there be new rules in terms of getting a canadian citizenship. Edited October 12, 2008 by jay22 Quote
guyser Posted October 14, 2008 Report Posted October 14, 2008 Should there be new rules in terms of getting a canadian citizenship. Yea , gooder gramer..no weight, umm gremmar uhh....No, no new laws. Quote
Mr.Canada Posted October 26, 2008 Report Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) Should there be new rules in terms of getting a canadian citizenship. Yes. 1. The ability to read and write English to an Eighth grade level 2. NO criminal record 3. Having something we need, job skills etc. 4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable. 5. The willingness to assimilate in Canadian society so as not to make uncomfortable the Canadian people already here. - $10,000 Cdn dollars so you are not a strain on the Canadian system and/or the Canadian people. - Three infractions and you are removed from Canada to never be allowed to return and your passport stamped undesirable for Canada. Straight to airport, no judge, jury or appeal. Just straight to airport holding area. That would be a great start. Edited October 26, 2008 by Mr.Canada Quote "You are scum for insinuating that isn't the case you snake." -William Ashley Canadian Immigration Reform Blog
Sir Bandelot Posted October 26, 2008 Report Posted October 26, 2008 (edited) 1. The ability to read and write English to an Eighth grade level If this is to be a part of it, then it must be OR French. "2. NO criminal record" What if the crime is not a crime in Canada, what if it is a minor offence that occured long ago. People should not have to pay their entire lives for some lesser offences, like cannabis possession when they were a teenager. So there should be some flexibility. What if a brilliant researcher in oncology had a record for something minor they did many years ago. Our society would still benefit tremendously by having them work here. By your strict reckoning they couldn't. "4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable." By the same logic, catholic priests can no longer wear their white collars? A citizen cannot wear a necklace with a cross pendant in public? Pshaaw "5. The willingness to assimilate in Canadian society so as not to make uncomfortable the Canadian people already here." Which Canadian society, the Canadian hindus, the Chinese, little Italy? Pshaaw " $10,000 Cdn dollars so you are not a strain on the Canadian system and/or the Canadian people." Sounds like some kind of payola. How about if they grease the immigration officers palm too, drop me 5000 and your in. "Three infractions and you are removed from Canada to never be allowed to return and your passport stamped undesirable for Canada. Straight to airport, no judge, jury or appeal. Just straight to airport holding area." Removed to where... who will take them, who would be forced to take them, under a Canadian law? Again, Pshaww. Edited October 26, 2008 by Sir Bandelot Quote
gc1765 Posted October 26, 2008 Report Posted October 26, 2008 4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable. You want to tell people how they can and can't dress? Talk about authoritarian government... Quote Almost three thousand people died needlessly and tragically at the World Trade Center on September 11; ten thousand Africans die needlessly and tragically every single day-and have died every single day since September 11-of AIDS, TB, and malaria. We need to keep September 11 in perspective, especially because the ten thousand daily deaths are preventable. - Jeffrey Sachs (from his book "The End of Poverty")
Oleg Bach Posted October 26, 2008 Report Posted October 26, 2008 Should there be new rules in terms of getting a canadian citizenship. Economic refugees should be twarted. When I hear a young Asian state in a telivised interview that he wants to be a doctor because " the money is real good" - I personally don't want him. I could have sworn that the original person in this nation that entered the medical field wanted to help humanity - no wonder our public medical bill is so damned high..doctors are not supposed to be bankers. Quote
Hcheh Posted October 27, 2008 Report Posted October 27, 2008 Yes. 1. The ability to read and write English to an Eighth grade level 2. NO criminal record 3. Having something we need, job skills etc. 4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable. 5. The willingness to assimilate in Canadian society so as not to make uncomfortable the Canadian people already here. - $10,000 Cdn dollars so you are not a strain on the Canadian system and/or the Canadian people. - Three infractions and you are removed from Canada to never be allowed to return and your passport stamped undesirable for Canada. Straight to airport, no judge, jury or appeal. Just straight to airport holding area. That would be a great start. If this is to be a part of it, then it must be OR French."2. NO criminal record" What if the crime is not a crime in Canada, what if it is a minor offence that occured long ago. People should not have to pay their entire lives for some lesser offences, like cannabis possession when they were a teenager. So there should be some flexibility. What if a brilliant researcher in oncology had a record for something minor they did many years ago. Our society would still benefit tremendously by having them work here. By your strict reckoning they couldn't. "4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable." By the same logic, catholic priests can no longer wear their white collars? A citizen cannot wear a necklace with a cross pendant in public? Pshaaw "5. The willingness to assimilate in Canadian society so as not to make uncomfortable the Canadian people already here." Which Canadian society, the Canadian hindus, the Chinese, little Italy? Pshaaw " $10,000 Cdn dollars so you are not a strain on the Canadian system and/or the Canadian people." Sounds like some kind of payola. How about if they grease the immigration officers palm too, drop me 5000 and your in. "Three infractions and you are removed from Canada to never be allowed to return and your passport stamped undesirable for Canada. Straight to airport, no judge, jury or appeal. Just straight to airport holding area." Removed to where... who will take them, who would be forced to take them, under a Canadian law? Again, Pshaww. I would strongly support new immigration laws.. However, while I agree with some of these points, I strongly disagree with the others. 1. The ability to read and write English to an Eighth grade level - Or French 4. The willingness to shed all traditional dress and customs except in the privacy of your own home or holidays or family functions. All religious dress banned in public so as to not make the Canadian people uncomfortable. - This is unconstitutional. If you don't want to see people wearing traditional or religious clothing, then don't look that way. This would be an outrage, a serious infringement upon individual liberties. "5. The willingness to assimilate in Canadian society so as not to make uncomfortable the Canadian people already here." Which Canadian society, the Canadian hindus, the Chinese, little Italy? Pshaaw - I agree with this, but not in the sense that Sir Bandelot took it in. An immigrant must assimilate into Canadian fundamentals and values: the constitutional acts, individual liberties, rights and freedoms, the integration of visible minorities, democracy..etc. We don't have an official religion, so I don't care if you are christian, hindu or whatever.. Just love our country! $10,000 Cdn dollars so you are not a strain on the Canadian system and/or the Canadian people. - No, I don't think that is necessary at all.. Doesn't mean you love the country if you have money. "Three infractions and you are removed from Canada to never be allowed to return and your passport stamped undesirable for Canada. Straight to airport, no judge, jury or appeal. Just straight to airport holding area." - After a Canadian Citizen is a citizen, he shall and should never be stripped from that citizenship unless under dire circumstances. Besides, if we were to enforce this rule upon the current responsibilities of a citizen, a very large number of people would be deported.. Quote
Hcheh Posted November 5, 2008 Report Posted November 5, 2008 We could really use that eighth grade level English or French immigration law right now.. I was just with my mom (who emigrated from somewhere in China), with her buying groceries... and jeez, nobody speaks English in these areas at all (GTA area)! Even funnier, there are t.v. reporting channels who operate here in Canada, and they broadcast fully in Cantonese! Quote
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