M.Dancer Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Soldiers, Tanks and Broken Guitars Oh My! http://www.npd.ca/page/6800 Yes that's right, according to Layton.... Quote RIGHT of SOME, LEFT of OTHERS If it is a choice between them and us, I choose us
guyser Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Oh my. I guess it plays to the ignorant. Quote
kengs333 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Soldiers, Tanks and Broken Guitars Oh My!http://www.npd.ca/page/6800 Yes that's right, according to Layton.... It's pretty good, actually. Obviously you don't understand Quebec. Guitars are an integral part of its culture. Quote
kengs333 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Oh my. I guess it plays to the ignorant. Oh, that's right, Harper isn't a pro-war, pro-military, anti-environment guy cozy with big business at all!!!! Yeah, the Con ads are real sophisticated using slot machines and dice. DING! DING! DING! Quote
guyser Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 I stand by my original statement. Quote
kengs333 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 I stand by my original statement. so you'll be voting NDP then? Quote
Who's Doing What? Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Didn't quite catch all of it with my limited french, but it would seem to be accurate and possibly effective. He would have sent us into Iraq, which I knew from the get go was a BS war. On the other hand Harper does support the troops in Afghanistan and the reason we have to be there, which I agree totally with. Harper does want to increase the military, which I agree with. With all the resources in the arctic that will becoming available with new technology and a warmer climate we need to be able to defend them. Before no one cared because it was just barren ice. Even then we were/are battling with the Dutch over some tiny island off the west coast of Greenland. If people don't support those things then this ad is perfect. As for myself this ad would give me a reason not to vote NDP. As I am for our troops in Afghanistan and I think a few billion a year more spent on the military is a good thing. Quote Harper differed with his party on some key policy issues; in 1995, for example, he was one of only two Reform MPs to vote in favour of federal legislation requiring owners to register their guns. http://www.mapleleafweb.com/election/bio/harper.html "You've got to remember that west of Winnipeg the ridings the Liberals hold are dominated by people who are either recent Asian immigrants or recent migrants from eastern Canada: people who live in ghettoes and who are not integrated into western Canadian society." (Stephen Harper, Report Newsmagazine, January 22, 2001)
JB Globe Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Wow. That's some of the best graphic design I've ever seen in a political ad. Quote
HistoryBuff44 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 The only real question i have is do people really buy that crap? I dont believe a word from any one of those commercials, no matter which party it came from. all its good for is a laugh, its quite funny the garbage they put in those commercials. Quote An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last -- WSC
JerrySeinfeld Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) The NDP is on such a different - lower - level of sophistication... when it comes to advertising, communication, understanding the public, understanding economics, and people's hot buttons, connecting with people emotionally, etc. The NDP is sad. Just look at that ad. That the ridiculous NDP's attempt at an "attack ad". It would be worth criticizing if it wasn't so freakin funny. I think I speak for everyone in Canada when I say "hahahahahahahahahahahahaha". They have always been and will always be only one thing: A marginal player and a voice for the poor and lazy. Edited September 18, 2008 by JerrySeinfeld Quote
scribblet Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Oh my. I guess it plays to the ignorant. That's my thinking, my French is very limited, but the graphics where enough to convey the message. Wow, it's a pretty ignorant ad actually. Quote Hey Ho - Ontario Liberals Have to Go - Fight Wynne - save our province
kengs333 Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 The NDP is on such a different - lower - level of sophistication... when it comes to advertising, communication, understanding the public, understanding economics, and people's hot buttons, connecting with people emotionally, etc.The NDP is sad. Just look at that ad. That the ridiculous NDP's attempt at an "attack ad". It would be worth criticizing if it wasn't so freakin funny. I think I speak for everyone in Canada when I say "hahahahahahahahahahahahaha". They have always been and will always be only one thing: A marginal player and a voice for the poor and lazy. And what exactly was that 2006 ad by the Conservatives? You know: BEEP! BEEP! These Conservative ads at the beginning of this election campaign with Harper trying to look sensitive and down-to-earth aren't exactly "sophisticated". Quote
BC_chick Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 The ad calls the CPC pro-Bush, anti-Kyoto, anti-SSM, pro-war... And you find this dishonest because...? Quote It's kind of the worst thing that any humans could be doing at this time in human history. Other than that, it's fine." Bill Nye on Alberta Oil Sands
capricorn Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 You wanna see something really spooky? Click below and look at the picture....if you dare. http://network.nationalpost.com/np/blogs/p...-and-white.aspx Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Bryan Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 That NDP ad is the most deliberately deceptive campaign ad I've ever seen on either side of the border. Playing to the ignorant indeed. Quote
Argus Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 Oh my. I guess it plays to the ignorant. Nobody else would think of wasting their votes on the NDP. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 Oh, that's right, Harper isn't a pro-war, pro-military, anti-environment guy cozy with big business at all!!!! Yeah, the Con ads are real sophisticated using slot machines and dice. DING! DING! DING! Pro war? That's the accusation of the brainless. Nobody is pro war. The pictures of soldiers and tanks and the sound of marching boots makes it sound like Harper is Adolph Hitler reincarnated. But when you're nothing but a cheap ass, third rate party with policies normal people just snicker at then I guess you have to go for the low brow set if you want to pick up votes. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
August1991 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 (edited) This ad might work in English Canada but IMV, the NDP is wasting its money with such an ad in Quebec. First of all, the ad aims toward the typical BQ voter. Such voters are not going to switch to the NDP. Why would they? They want an independent Quebec. All the NDP offers is a stronger Ottawa. Second, the NDP is an unknown quantity in Quebec. No one knows any of the candidates or politicians. Jack Layton is as familiar to them as, say, Pauline Marois is to English Canadians. They may have heard the name. To understand all of this, imagine for a second that we have a North American parliament and we have to elect deputies. Now, imagine a Leftist American with an accent from Alabama comes to Canada and launches a provocative ad aiming to get specifically Canadian nationalists to vote for him. How successful is such a campaign going to be? The NDP might hold Outremont in this election and it might draw some votes from the Liberals in Montreal-area ridings. Harper has the good sense to seek the voters in Quebec who might potentially vote Conservative. Layton is just wasting his party's money. You don't go into a foreign area where no one knows you and then provoke people. The natural reaction is to be offended, or to ignore it. Edited September 19, 2008 by August1991 Quote
kengs333 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 This ad might work in English Canada but IMV, the NDP is wasting its money with such an ad in Quebec.First of all, the ad aims toward the typical BQ voter. Such voters are not going to switch to the NDP. Why would they? They want an independent Quebec. All the NDP offers is a stronger Ottawa. The Bloc is largely a socialist party, and the Bloc is apparently becoming quite irrelevant. A lot of quebecers I think have grown tired of the sovereignty issue and just want to get on with it; they can always form a distinct society within Canada, and the NDP is just as likely to accomodate this as would the Cons. Quebec is where the NDP is likely not make any gains if at all. Quote
August1991 Posted September 19, 2008 Report Posted September 19, 2008 The Bloc is largely a socialist party, and the Bloc is apparently becoming quite irrelevant. A lot of quebecers I think have grown tired of the sovereignty issue and just want to get on with it; they can always form a distinct society within Canada, and the NDP is just as likely to accomodate this as would the Cons. Quebec is where the NDP is likely not make any gains if at all.Kengs, I will foolishly take the time to explain this to you.If Canada became the 51st state of America, would Canadian nationalists (NDP types) suddenly vote for Democrats? The NDP ads and Layton's appeal in Quebec are like a Leftist American coming to English-Canada and asking NDP voters to vote for an American party so that Canada and America will join together. What Dipper would vote for a Leftist American so that Canada will become the 51st State? Layton is wasting his money and his time in Quebec. Quote
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