Joesixpack5 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Right, and nobody would then turn that into crack or cocaine - even though it wouldn't be illegal to do so, or illegal to smuggle it or sell it or consume it. You get out much? The crack and cocaine producers would be greatly disabled, just like moonshine producers were when alcohol was re-legalized after (failed) prohibition. Why would someone who wants coca stimulation go the dangerous route via illegitimate purchase of a lethal and toxic substance, when safe, legal, regulated coca leaves are available above ground retail ? You and I don't go to the back roads moonshine distillery, because we don't need or want higher than 40% alcohol, and we want safety and legitimacy instead. It's really quite simple. The prohibition insanity has CREATED the current Mexican drug war crisis. Nabob, Molson's and Du Maurier don't facilitate murderous clans of malice - they ELIMINATE them. Edited September 15, 2008 by Joesixpack5 Quote
Joesixpack5 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) The problem is that things like cocaine are extremely extremely extremely terrible for your body. To be honest, I'm not really against the legalization of marijuana because it's a pretty inane drug but cocaine and heroin and any other family of hard drug is something only an idiot politician would support. Regardless of whether marijuana should be legalized or not, the people in question in this thread are not marijuana crusaders or anything of the sort. They are the scum of the earth and that a Liberal MP would support it just goes to show you how entitled they feel they are in their positions and how far they'll go to pander to their ethnic communities. Coca leaves are relatively innocuous medically compared with refined crack and cocaine. When you ban coca leaves, you enable the black market and compel them to produce and distribute crack and cocaine. If you allowed Nescafe to put coca leaves on the shelves, regulated in an adult only store as alcohol is, and TAXED, you'd greatly eliminate the impetus for refined crack and cocaine because the demand would switch to the regulated and safer coca leaf chewing method of stimulation instead. All refined cocaine could be labelled as seizable substances, and eradicated. Producers could be billed for seizure, disposal & destruction costs. With the tax revenue, you could reduce poverty, cut income tax, fund health care and build infrastructure. Neo-Cons are exponentially more scummy, malicious and destructive than ANY pot crusader. Edited September 15, 2008 by Joesixpack5 Quote
Joesixpack5 Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 (edited) Actually, Liberal wishy-washiness is the most dangerous thing of all because of the way it encourages a backlash of Conservative contempt and vindictiveness. Transparency is a virtue, I agree. That's why I suggest the NDP and Green Party as alternatives to corrupt, waffling Paul Martin type Neo-Liberals. Maybe Soft Stephane is more honorable and integrity-based than Martin, and maybe his charisma is slightly greater than zero, but that is yet to be proven. Edited September 15, 2008 by Joesixpack5 Quote
Argus Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 The crack and cocaine producers would be greatly disabled, just like moonshine producers were when alcohol was re-legalized after (failed) prohibition. Why would someone who wants coca stimulation go the dangerous route via illegitimate purchase of a lethal and toxic substance, when safe, legal, regulated coca leaves are available above ground retail ? Gee, because the high would be so much higher? Moonshiners produced the same product as was sold in stores. No reason to go for it if it's legal. Chewing cocoa leafs is nothing like the experience of smoking crack. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Moonbox Posted September 15, 2008 Report Posted September 15, 2008 If you allowed Nescafe to put coca leaves on the shelves, regulated in an adult only store as alcohol is, and TAXED, you'd greatly eliminate the impetus for refined crack and cocaine because the demand would switch to the regulated and safer coca leaf chewing method of stimulation instead. Not true and you have no way of proving that. Coke addicts would still want coke and heroin addicts would still want heroin because chewing a cocoa leaf wouldn't give anything near the experience. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Joesixpack5 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 The right wing dogmatists dismiss all progressive plans, and therefore doom themselves to the repeated epic FAILURE of prohibitionist insanity (while they hypocritically pop their BigPharma pills, alcohol and tobacco). Idiots. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 The right wing dogmatists dismiss all progressive plans, and therefore doom themselves to the repeated epic FAILURE of prohibitionist insanity (while they hypocritically pop their BigPharma pills, alcohol and tobacco).Idiots. Then why aren't the progressives running the show....idiots? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Joesixpack5 Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 Then why aren't the progressives running the show....idiots? Partly due to Diebold/Premier E-Vote rigging the Bush vote, and the corporate media conglomerate which has facilitated the Neo-Con/Neo-Lib monopoly. The Scandinavian center-left view is not allowed in a Neo-Fascist society which is driven by war, persecution, torture and exponential corporate greed. IOW, the only way your side wins is by fraud and fascism. Quote
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