Wild Bill Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 The fact is the numbers have to jive. Income has to meet expenditures. Bush gave tax cuts to the rich, people who don't need the money. Year after year bush has run a deficit driving the states further into debt. The mortgage meltdown is because people don't have the incomes to keep up with their payments. If people don't have the incomes it's because corporations are engaging in cost cutting measures and driving their costs down and throwing these people out of work. If business taxes are low that is incentive and reward for companies to trim costs wherever they can. Why pay you 50k when they can outsource the work to mexico for 5k and keep 45k for themselves and pay little taxes on that money thanks to bush. Economics is not rocket science. Comes down to who the politicians are really looking out for. If the government took a heavy handed approach to protect their bottom lines the world would ascend to heights unimaginable and spur unprecendented innovation , creativity, and real economic prosperity. Unfortunenately we are still in the dark ages and the governments are clueless lot. So what? You've declared how you WANT things to be! You still didn't answer my points in any way, shape or form. You just ignored them. Business doesn't care how you feel about things. If you get your way, then you will need guns to keep business from pulling out, period. If you disagree with me then give me an argument that says differently. Don't just keep on trumpeting your wishes. How you expect to keep businesses actively working would be your problem. I guess you'd need a cop over every shoulder all day long. Meanwhile, at night they'd be making balloons out of raincoats to float themselves and their families out of your country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrGreenthumb Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 So what? You've declared how you WANT things to be! You still didn't answer my points in any way, shape or form. You just ignored them. I guess you'd need a cop over every shoulder all day long. Sorry its the Harper that wants a cop in everyone's living rooms and bedrooms, making sure nobody has any unnaproved fun on their off-time when they are not working at the corporations for slave wages. Its Harper that thinks we need cops to pick our judges, Harper that doesn't think we deserve the protection of the charter of rights. The only ones that Harper thinks don't need to live under the thumb of his laws are the conservatives who regularly ignore the laws, even the ones they themselves have introduced and passed! Whether its fixed election date laws or government transparency rules, election finance laws, the conservatives obviously feel that they are above the laws they pass which only apply to us peasants. Anyone who votes for Harper is a coward and a fool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngusThermopyle Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Whether its fixed election date laws If you actually looked at the law as written you would see that it includes an escape clause to allow an election under given circumstances. Those circumstances have been met so therefore no law is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 If you actually looked at the law as written you would see that it includes an escape clause to allow an election under given circumstances. Those circumstances have been met so therefore no law is broken. Still, even that National Post says this in their editorial today. http://www.nationalpost.com/opinion/story.html?id=777970 And that is why, notwithstanding our support for many Tory policies, Mr. Harper's election call is such a disappointment: It's as cynical and partisan as any call made by that master cynic, Jean Chretien, when he was prime minister. The fixed-election law was supposed to put an end to such self-interested game-playing with the country's future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallc Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 If you actually looked at the law as written you would see that it includes an escape clause to allow an election under given circumstances. Those circumstances have been met so therefore no law is broken. Then why make the law? It wasn't needed and it appears to be completely useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Sorry its the Harper that wants a cop in everyone's living rooms and bedrooms, making sure nobody has any unnaproved fun on their off-time when they are not working at the corporations for slave wages. Its Harper that thinks we need cops to pick our judges, Harper that doesn't think we deserve the protection of the charter of rights. The only ones that Harper thinks don't need to live under the thumb of his laws are the conservatives who regularly ignore the laws, even the ones they themselves have introduced and passed! Whether its fixed election date laws or government transparency rules, election finance laws, the conservatives obviously feel that they are above the laws they pass which only apply to us peasants. Anyone who votes for Harper is a coward and a fool. Latest polls show that around 40% of the country are cowards and fools I guess. Keep up the scare mongering, it has proven such a great election tactic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M.Dancer Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 They only run in one province. Even if they won every seat they contested, forming a government is a mathematical impossibility. They are a fringe party. That fringe party has a mathematical shot at being the Loyal Opposition. As they once were before... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capricorn Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 (edited) Keep up the scare mongering, it has proven such a great election tactic Dion said: "I will fight fear with hope". "He promised a Liberal campaign will ``fight fear with hope, lies with facts, and Republican-style attack ads with Canadian-style courage.'' http://www.thechronicleherald.ca/Front/9008326.html Be afraid, be very afraid. edit to add link. Edited September 9, 2008 by capricorn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Things don't look good when Dion is going to double the amount given in the tory childcare plan and according to CTV news the NDP will apparently have the support of the Taliban. ctv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Things don't look good when Dion is going to double the amount given in the tory childcare plan and according to CTV news Seems to be that should put a stopper on the claim that Dion is eliminating the plan. Pretty bad when Harper's team uses tasteless ads against the Liberals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whowhere Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Tried that in the USSR, don't be talking about dark ages.Economics isn't rocket science, you don't seem to be getting it. Alberta is how an economy should be run, the avg. person out there is doing very well. Yeah I get it. Somehow winning the lottery makes you a rockerfeller, a warren buffet. Where would Alberta be without oil? Yeah, welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueblood Posted September 9, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Yeah I get it. Somehow winning the lottery makes you a rockerfeller, a warren buffet. Where would Alberta be without oil? Yeah, welfare. Where would Ontario be without being close to the U.S.? Yeah, welfare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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