bush_cheney2004 Posted July 1, 2008 Report Posted July 1, 2008 (edited) Maher Arar came up with goose eggs again in US federal court. It's a conspiracy dammit! The court concluded that adjudicating the claims would interfere with sensitive matters of foreign policy and national security. It also said that Arar, as a foreigner who had not been formally admitted to the U.S., had no constitutional due process rights. ...She said the decision means that "the U.S. can do to anyone what they did to Maher." Ding ding!! http://www.cbc.ca/world/story/2008/06/30/u...ar.html?ref=rss Edited July 1, 2008 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 She said the decision means that "the U.S. can do to anyone what they did to Maher"". I am surprised Canada has not publicly expressed serious concern relating to the issue of dual citizenship. Depending on the issue, dual citizenship could be the source of serious consequences. The federal government has an obligation to the tax payer of Canada to prevent this type of situation from happening again. Quote
guyser Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 The federal government has an obligation to the tax payer of Canada to prevent this type of situation from happening again. Thats why he has $10 million of our money. Yours too ! Quote
CANADIEN Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Thats why he has $10 million of our money. Yours too ! Do not waste your time, guyser. He is not white, therefore not Canadian enough to some. As for the decision of the American court... I wonder what would happen if the Canadian government did the same thing to American citizens that was done to Maher Arar, a Canadian citizen. but we know, even detaining an American drunk driver without notifying the nearest American consultate would be grounds for calls to nuke Toronto out of the planet. The slippery slope towards moral bankruptcy has just become a bit more slippery. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 (edited) Do not waste your time, guyser. He is not white, therefore not Canadian enough to some. Poppycock.....he is plenty enough "white" for the US governement. But we even put "white terrorists" to death (e.g. Timothy McVeigh)....maybe Canada is more racist when $10 million plus attorney's fees are at stake! Department of Justice Affirms in 1909 Whether Syrians, Turks, and Arabs are of White or Yellow Race ...The courts of this nation, both state and federal, have, whenever called upon for more than a century, construed the term "white persons," or members of the white race, to include Syrians. http://www.arabamericanhistory.org/newsletter.htm Edited July 2, 2008 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
guyser Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Poppycock.....he is plenty enough "white" for the US governement. But we even put "white terrorists" to death (e.g. Timothy McVeigh)....maybe Canada is more racist when $10 million plus attorney's fees are at stake! Department of Justice Affirms in 1909 Whether Syrians, Turks, and Arabs are of White or Yellow Race ...The courts of this nation, both state and federal, have, whenever called upon for more than a century, construed the term "white persons," or members of the white race, to include Syrians. http://www.arabamericanhistory.org/newsletter.htm You missed. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 2, 2008 Author Report Posted July 2, 2008 You missed. No....you missed....about $12 million CAD. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 Thats why he has $10 million of our money. Yours too ! That is what I stated: The federal government has an obligation to the tax payer of Canada to prevent this type of situation from happening again. That means to save the tax payers of Canada from forking over $10 million ever again, relating to a similar Arar situation. If Arar would have been a citizen of Canada only, with a single Canadian passport, he would have been sent back to Canada. Quote
eyeball Posted July 2, 2008 Report Posted July 2, 2008 That is what I stated:That means to save the tax payers of Canada from forking over $10 million ever again, relating to a similar Arar situation. If Arar would have been a citizen of Canada only, with a single Canadian passport, he would have been sent back to Canada. The best way to avoid having to pay millions in damages is to ensure the police respect people's rights. I'd like to know why us taxpayers can't recoup some if not all of this money from the officials responsible for screwing up in this case. At the very least they should be fired so they don't screw up again and cost us another fortune. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Posted July 3, 2008 The best way to avoid having to pay millions in damages is to ensure the police respect people's rights. I'd like to know why us taxpayers can't recoup some if not all of this money from the officials responsible for screwing up in this case. At the very least they should be fired so they don't screw up again and cost us another fortune. Ask the RCMP. Next case! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 Ask the RCMP. Next case! Why? When the United States sent Maher Arar to Syria, where he was tortured for months, the deportation order stated unequivocally that Arar, a Canadian software engineer, was a member of Al Qaeda. But a few days earlier, Canadian investigators had told the FBI that they had not been able to link him to the terrorist group. http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/09/25/news/terror.php Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Posted July 3, 2008 Why? RCMP gave U.S. distorted information ...The judge concluded that RCMP investigators without much experience wrongly gave their U.S. counterparts inaccurate, unfair and overstated evidence about the Syrian-Canadian engineer's alleged terrorist sympathies. "The RCMP provided American authorities with information about Mr. Arar that was inaccurate, portrayed him in an unfairly negative fashion and overstated his importance in the RCMP investigation," O'Connor said at a news conference on Monday. That's why.....you paid 12 million clams. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Leafless Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 RCMP gave U.S. distorted information...The judge concluded that RCMP investigators without much experience wrongly gave their U.S. counterparts inaccurate, unfair and overstated evidence about the Syrian-Canadian engineer's alleged terrorist sympathies. How do you know this is true: Having not written once about him during the entire time he was in a Syrian hellhole, she was the perfect scribe for an article suggesting that Mr. Arar was no virgin, and that he had even undergone terrorism training at an al-Qaeda base in Afghanistan. http://members.shaw.ca/nspector4/globe6.htm "The RCMP provided American authorities with information about Mr. Arar that was inaccurate, portrayed him in an unfairly negative fashion and overstated his importance in the RCMP investigation," O'Connor said at a news conference on Monday.That's why.....you paid 12 million clams. The inquiry was not a court of law and to suggest RCMP information was inaccurate leaves a lot to be desired relating to the inner workings of national security between Canada and the U.S. To blow open national security efforts, by way of an public inquiry, should never have been permitted initially. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Posted July 3, 2008 The inquiry was not a court of law and to suggest RCMP information was inaccurate leaves a lot to be desired relating to the inner workings of national security between Canada and the U.S. To blow open national security efforts, by way of an public inquiry, should never have been permitted initially. Doesn't matter to me.....Canada's RCMP said Arar was a perp, so he got an all expenses paid trip back home to Syria via Jordan. I guess it's fair to ask if Arar would have been deported to Syria without the RCMP screw up, but in the end it doesn't matter.....Canada swelled up with self imposed guilt (something it excels at...the Americans...not so much), and paid Arar a handsome sum. Arar picked a very bad time to book a cheaper flight back to Montreal through (of all places)....NYC! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
CANADIEN Posted July 3, 2008 Report Posted July 3, 2008 To blow open national security efforts, by way of an public inquiry, should never have been permitted initially. And to bad if an innocent Canadian citizen's name is not cleared. But I forget, he's not English-speaking enough. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 3, 2008 Author Report Posted July 3, 2008 And to bad if an innocent Canadian citizen's name is not cleared. But I forget, he's not English-speaking enough. Congratulations Mr. Arar...I guess you can rejoin the "white race". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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