marcus27 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Iraq: A War For Israel By Mark Weber re-copied text DELETED by moderator text available online: http://www.ihr.org/leaflets/iraqwar.shtml Edited April 13, 2008 by Charles Anthony deleted re-copied text Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) CBS 60 minutes (Steve Croft) featured an interview with Feith last Sunday. He had no answers for the massive screw up in Iraq beyond saying over and over that "the President made a decision...". The fact that the decision was pushed by the likes of Feith is apparently no longer relevant lol.... During the interview, Croft related how one of the US commanders in Iraq (can't remember which) said that Feith was basically a moron. He quoted this to Feith and he just smiled a stupid s**t-eating grin. Amazing that the most powerful nation in the world has been sent into battle by the likes of this. Its economy brought to the brink of collapse. Generations indebted to its most dangerous economic competitors. You won't see the Americans boycotting the Olympics. They're too damned afraid the Chinese will call their notes. And for what? Edited April 13, 2008 by HisSelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 If the US could have been guaranteed a pricetag of $500 billion and 4,000 dead after invasion and five years of occupation in Iraq, it would have been done in 1991...and for the exact same reasons. Israel an ally and linked to US interests? You betcha! Policies did not change...but the American president did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus27 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 If the US could have been guaranteed a pricetag of $500 billion and 4,000 dead after invasion and five years of occupation in Iraq, it would have been done in 1991...and for the exact same reasons. Israel an ally and linked to US interests? You betcha! Policies did not change...but the American president did. Bush destroyed USA and Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Are you saying that the US should have asked for guarantees? Well boyo, that's what you do BEFORE YOU SIGN THE FRIGGIN CHEQUE. Edited April 13, 2008 by HisSelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 If the US could have been guaranteed a pricetag of $500 billion and 4,000 dead after invasion and five years of occupation in Iraq, it would have been done in 1991...and for the exact same reasons. Israel an ally and linked to US interests? You betcha! Policies did not change...but the American president did. Has it not occurred to you that your only real ally in this fight is completely dependent on you? Do you not see a potential hiatus hernia in your lower musculature? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Are you saying that the US should have asked for guarantees? Well boyo, that's what you do BEFORE YOU SIGN THE FRIGGIN CHEQUE. No...you said that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 OK. So what exactly DID you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Bush destroyed USA and Iraq. No, Bush continued US foreign policy and Congress agreed...see Iraq Liberation Act. Destroying Saddam's Iraq was the idea...for over 12 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 OK. So what exactly DID you say? Is your browser broken too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 (edited) Well let's say, for the sake of argument, that it is. What exactly was it that you were trying to say? Edited April 13, 2008 by HisSelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcus27 Posted April 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Well let's say, for the sake of argument, that it is. What exactly was it that you were trying to say? Israel makes the foreign politics of USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Has it not occurred to you that your only real ally in this fight is completely dependent on you? Do you not see a potential hiatus hernia in your lower musculature? That would be no and no. It would seem that Canada has already "herniated" in Afghanistan even with many "allies"....so much for that theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We have NATO obligations in Afghanistan. We keep our word. And your point about Iraq would be...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Well let's say, for the sake of argument, that it is. What exactly was it that you were trying to say? I "said" it quite clearly...but one more time for the special people: If the cost in blood and money had been bounded to those experienced to date in the invasion of Iraq, it would have been seen far more favorably by Bush #41. History already reflects the impact of the decision to leave Saddam and Iraq standing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 We have NATO obligations in Afghanistan. We keep our word.And your point about Iraq would be...? Just that someone implied that "allies" were pivotal in avoiding "hernias", when Canada has plenty of the former and some of the latter anyway. Try again..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 Israel makes the foreign politics of USA What is "foreign politics"? Do you mean "foreign policy"? Let the record show that the USA has developed and executed foreign policy long before the nation of Israel existed. Israel is welcomed to the mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 I "said" it quite clearly...but one more time for the special people: If the cost in blood and money had been bounded to those experienced to date in the invasion of Iraq, it would have been seen far more favorably by Bush #41. History already reflects the impact of the decision to leave Saddam and Iraq standing. You continue to run the debate out of bounds by citing untraceable references. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Obfuscation is the last refuge of an undergrad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 13, 2008 Report Share Posted April 13, 2008 You continue to run the debate out of bounds by citing untraceable references. Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. Obfuscation is the last refuge of an undergrad. Irrelevant....the foreign policy of the Unites States has included the defense of Israel's interests for many years, including payola for Egypt, Jordan, and Palestinians. Do they control US "foreign politics" as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 Amazing that the most powerful nation in the world has been sent into battle by the likes of this. Its economy brought to the brink of collapse. Generations indebted to its most dangerous economic competitors. You won't see the Americans boycotting the Olympics. They're too damned afraid the Chinese will call their notes.And for what? What notes? What powerful nation? The US is about as shakey an investment as the worst sub-prime mortgage. If China was stupid enough to buy into this war they deserve to be told to go piss up a rope. The world should be so lucky if both go down in flames. And for what indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 What notes? What powerful nation? The US is about as shakey an investment as the worst sub-prime mortgage. If China was stupid enough to buy into this war they deserve to be told to go piss up a rope. The world should be so lucky if both go down in flames.And for what indeed. The Chinese are holding one hell of a lot of US debt notes. These notes were sold to finance the Iraq war. This sort of thing has not been done since 1776 when the American rebels funded their debts with capital supplied from France. You are in doo-doo up to your eyeballs. Wake up and smell the coffee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 The Chinese are holding one hell of a lot of US debt notes. These notes were sold to finance the Iraq war. This sort of thing has not been done since 1776 when the American rebels funded their debts with capital supplied from France.You are in doo-doo up to your eyeballs. Wake up and smell the coffee. These notes clearly are not worth the paper they're written on. I'm reminded of all the times I've heard some flak get up and lecture the world about state sponsered terror and the global networks of nations that aid and abet evildoers. What goes around really does come around. You won't see me opposing any future Iraqi government that sues China for reparations relating to their financial support of the US invasion and occupation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 The Chinese are holding one hell of a lot of US debt notes. These notes were sold to finance the Iraq war. This sort of thing has not been done since 1776 when the American rebels funded their debts with capital supplied from France.You are in doo-doo up to your eyeballs. Wake up and smell the coffee. Same thing was done to bail out your empire during WW2 and rebuild Europe.....was that a bad investment too? The French (and Europe) were paid back in spades. US public debt is about 45% foreign owned, Japan and China being only part of the mix (about 50% of that 45%). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HisSelf Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 (edited) The American financial interventions in Europe and Japan after the Second World War was damned smart. As was the Nixon (and I am no Nixon fan) trip to China. The glory trail stopped soon after. And your point about Iraq was? You seem to be dodging the issue, if I may speak politely... Edited April 14, 2008 by HisSelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted April 14, 2008 Report Share Posted April 14, 2008 The American financial interventions in Europe and Japan after the Second World War was damned smart. As was the Nixon (and I am no Nixon fan) trip to China. The glory trail stopped soon after. Eastern Europe would disagree...the US spent trillion$ on the Cold War through the 1980's. Then we spent billion$ on the Russians for demil. But only Israel is singled out for Uncle Sam's sugar? And your point about Iraq was? You seem to be dodging the issue, if I may speak politely... Iraq was one-stop shopping for a bevy of interests.....everyone buying US Treasuries financed the party, and still do. Hell, we actually made money on Gulf War I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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