Russell by-law spat sparks bilingual study

[Leafless]

Oh wait a minute...

You're serious!!

You gotta be a French!

[Leafless]

Imagine if you had been alive when the federal Government created residential schools...

Someone has to teach savages the English language and a little math so they can compete for jobs like other educated Canadians.

Or when provincial governments where virtually banning the French language from schools and public institutions.

Majority rule was the thing in those days and should still be the thing to-day, like in Quebec.

The good you could have done by making them understand that this kind of LANGUAGE POLICIES was not needed.

It works in Quebec so why should other English speaking provinces be denied the same opportunity.

Makes me wonder what would have happened to those who didn't "freely" comply...

They found a Quebecer who used to drive his motorcycle throughout the Quebec countryside dressed in Nazi garb named Trudeau who fixed that up.

After all, French-speaking Canadians did not need to assimilate to be what they already were... Canadians.

Sure, traitors need not assimilate, right?

If I remember correctly the French lost the war on the Plains of Abraham and Quebecers therefore had a duty to contribute to Canada like any other Canadian utilizing the culture of the majority.

[g_bambino]

The type of linguistic policies Trudeau imposed, which was a form of socialism featuring racism,imposing country wide cultural laws and obedience to a strong leader.

Once again, what policies? Be specific.

Still waiting...

[guyser]

The low life gay boy is back spewing another load of non-productive crap.

All over your face buttercup. Your complexion will improve. Go to the nursing station , they'll tell you.

[CANADIEN]

The low life gay boy is back spewing another load of non-productive crap.

I must admit that I am surprised. I had figured you out as a low-life, but gay? Nope. But don't worry, your crap is highly productive... it sure produce laughter.

[CANADIEN]

Someone has to teach savages the English language and a little math so they can compete for jobs like other educated Canadians.

Thank you for removing any illusion anyone may have had about the fact you are nothing more than a sad pathetic loser racist.

Majority rule was the thing in those days and should still be the thing to-day, like in Quebec.

So now Francophones are a majority in Quebec& About time you finally remember your math classes.

More seriously, your ideal majority rule, namely the majority treating the minority like second class less-than-citizens, would have gained you many white robe-clad friends in Mississippi 50 years ago. Unfortunately (for you), this is 2010.

It works in Quebec so why should other English speaking provinces be denied the same opportunity.

We all know you loathe and envy Quebec's language laws yet view them as a model as to how things should be. I view them as a model to be scrapped.

Sure, traitors need not assimilate, right?

If you seriously think that a Canadian who kows his identity and rights as a Canadian, namely me, is a traitor, why don't you phone the police right now to be arrested? Or better still (from a comedic point of view, that is), come to my place and try to make a citizen arrest. Don't worry, I won't hurt you... I wouldn't want to contaminate myself.

If I remember correctly the French lost the war on the Plains of Abraham and Quebecers therefore had a duty to contribute to Canada like any other Canadian utilizing the culture of the majority.

We are in 2010 and my duties to my country, Canada, most definitely DO NOT include giving up my Canadian language, culture and identity. You don't like it? Then move back to Jurassic Park.

Edited November 27, 2010 by CANADIEN

[CANADIEN]

You gotta be a French!

Why? Because he knows how much of a joke you are? Quite frankly, the notion that somebody has to be French to recognize such evidence is insulting to Canadians, regardless of their first language.

[Leafless]

Still waiting...

Again!

Wait no more.

Official Languages,Official Bilingualism, Official Multiculturalism.

[Leafless]

All over your face buttercup. Your complexion will improve. Go to the nursing station , they'll tell you.

It is obvious the best part of you ran down your old man's leg, which accounts for you being such a low bred moron.

[Leafless]

I must admit that I am surprised. I had figured you out as a low-life, but gay? Nope. But don't worry, your crap is highly productive... it sure produce laughter.

You are the catalyst in my thread,

I am simply rebutting your never ending moronic extreme socialistic replies.

[Leafless]

Thank you for removing any illusion anyone may have had about the fact you are nothing more than a sad pathetic loser racist.

Which only proves how stupid you are in not knowing what a racist is.

So now Francophones are a majority in Quebec& About time you finally remember your math classes.

I will say it again.

In calculating racial majorities and minorities in Canada, your calculations must include races from the entire country.

You will find that Francophones are a sub-majority (minority) in Canada. Use another word to describe your friends in Quebec.

More seriously, your ideal majority rule, namely the majority treating the minority like second class less-than-citizens, would have gained you many white robe-clad friends in Mississippi 50 years ago. Unfortunately (for you), this is 2010.

Our political system to-day is based on minorities/majorities. Majority rule.

We all know you loathe and envy Quebec's language laws yet view them as a model as to how things should be. I view them as a model to be scrapped.

Then why to you put such emphasis on culture...CANADIEN?

If you seriously think that a Canadian who kows his identity and rights as a Canadian, namely me, is a traitor, why don't you phone the police right now to be arrested?

That is water under the bridge.

We all know what has politically transpired in this country, with federal politicians playing their personal little games while laughing in the face of English speaking Canadians. That is why you will not be arrested.

Or better still (from a comedic point of view, that is), come to my place and try to make a citizen arrest. Don't worry, I won't hurt you... I wouldn't want to contaminate myself.

See above!

We are in 2010 and my duties to my country, Canada, most definitely DO NOT include giving up my Canadian language, culture and identity. You don't like it? Then move back to Jurassic Park.

Strange, I see myself as Canadian but could not care less about my culture, language, identity since I see myself as being more American than anything else.

I think you are the one that should move back to France.

[g_bambino]

Official Languages,Official Bilingualism, Official Multiculturalism.

And what about those is it, exactly, that leads you to call them "Nazi-type language policies"? Specific clauses from the law or official policy guidelines are what I'm looking for here.

[CANADIEN]

never ending moronic replies.

Hi pot, my name is kettle. Edited November 27, 2010 by CANADIEN

[CANADIEN]

Which only proves how stupid you are in not knowing what a racist is.

Of course, calling First Nations "Savages" and thinking residential schoolswas a great idea does not meet the definition of racist in the Leaflish language. It does aplenty in the English language though.

I will say it again.

In calculating racial majorities and minorities in Canada, your calculations must include races from the entire country.

We are talking about linguistic groups, not races. But hey, you're the one who said the majority rules in Quebec.

sub-majority

Speak English

We all know what has politically transpired in this country, with federal politicians playing their personal little games while laughing in the face of English speaking Canadians. That is why you will not be arrested.

Correction... I will not be arrested because nobody in their right mind would consider speaking French and defending one's rights as Canadian as treason.

Strange, I see myself as Canadian but could not care less about my culture, language, identity since I see myself as being more American than anything else.

This coming from the guy who spends his days whining about an alleged (and non-existing) threat to his language and arguing I should assimilate into his culture.

I think you are the one that should move back to France.

That you think I'm from France says a lot about you and your capacity to have a clue about facts. And it's not flattering.

Now, since you feel so American, I might be tempted to suggest you move to the USA. But then, that would considered anti-American.

Edited November 27, 2010 by CANADIEN

[CANADIEN]

And what about those is it, exactly, that leads you to call them "Nazi-type language policies"? Specific clauses from the law or official policy guidelines are what I'm looking for here.

Simple... It's anything that does not say that English is the only language Canadians should speak.

[Leafless]

And what about those is it, exactly, that leads you to call them "Nazi-type language policies"? Specific clauses from the law or official policy guidelines are what I'm looking for here.

I call them Nazi-type policies because the three Liberal imposed policies, Official Languages/Official Bilingualism/Official Multiculturalism mimic Nazi Germany's totalitarian principle of government relating to racial superiority and or authoritarianism.

I don't have to get into specific clauses since the three policies together could very well be considered a French conspiracy to advance the political fortunes of Quebec by utilizing culture to combat the natural majority English speaking language of Canada.

Unless you can prove otherwise, these policies could have been designed to reduce the importance of the majority English language/society/jobs, by greatly over emphasizing the importance of French culture, with language laws relating to the French language and by flooding the country with third world immigrants, thus further diluting the importance of the majority English language/customs and culture.

[CANADIEN]

I call them Nazi-type policies because (...)

as everybody else on this thread, inlcuding people with no love lost for official bilingualism, has made abundently clear, you have no clue what the word Nazi really mean.

I don't have to get into specific clauses since the three policies together could very well be considered a French conspiracy to advance the political fortunes of Quebec by utilizing culture to combat the natural majority English speaking language of Canada.

Correction... you won't because you can't.

Unless you can prove otherwise, these policies could have been designed to reduce the importance of the majority English language/society/jobs, by greatly over emphasizing the importance of French culture, with language laws relating to the French language and by flooding the country with third world immigrants, thus further diluting the importance of the majority English language/customs and culture.

Actually, it is to YOU to prove your absurdist claims. I for one have been waiting for almost three years for what could amount to even a shadow of a proof.

BTW, I thought you didn't care about culture.

Edited November 27, 2010 by CANADIEN

[jbg]

And what about those is it, exactly, that leads you to call them "Nazi-type language policies"? Specific clauses from the law or official policy guidelines are what I'm looking for here.

The use of the term "Nazi" always sidetracks and cheapens discussions. It's Godwin's law (link) at work. Generally I confine the use of the term "Nazi" to such policies as Einsatzgruppen, gas chambers, and inevitably fatal "medical experiments".

[CANADIEN]

The use of the term "Nazi" always sidetracks and cheapens discussions. It's Godwin's law (link) at work. Generally I confine the use of the term "Nazi" to such policies as Einsatzgruppen, gas chambers, and inevitably fatal "medical experiments".

Experience shows that the word Nazi is usually used by people who either:

1) Are actually talking about those swines

2) Try to paint their opponent in s bad light

3) Are at loss for arguments

4) Do actually believe their comparison is accurate

With Leafless, it's mostly 4, with a bit of 3 and a sprinkle of 2.

[Jack Weber]

You gotta be a French!

Not bloody likely...

I just don't buy your paranoid,and quite idiotic,theory that Pierre Trudeau was some Leftist dictator in waiting....

Edited November 27, 2010 by Jack Weber

[jbg]

Not bloody likely...

I just don't buy your paranoid,and quite idiotic,theory that Pierre Trudeau was some Leftist dictator in waiting....

If you read Trudeau, Son of Quebec, Father of Canada (am I its only Yank reader) you'd see that he had a pretty ugly past. I suspect strongly that he had some dictatorial tendencies. He rammed many unwanted changes down Canada's throat,using his ability to maneuver,by fiat, three majority governments (putting to one side his minority period from 1972-4). Those changes included

1. The Official Languages Act;
   
2. The Multiculturalism Act;
   
3. The reorganization (and gutting) of the military;and
   
4. The Charter of no absolute Rights and constrained Freedoms.
   

Not bad, and not far from Hugo Chavez's depradations. I think he goes down in history as the Man Who Almost (singlehandedly) Wrecked Canada.

[Jack Weber]

If you read Trudeau, Son of Quebec, Father of Canada (am I its only Yank reader) you'd see that he had a pretty ugly past. I suspect strongly that he had some dictatorial tendencies. He rammed many unwanted changes down Canada's throat,using his ability to maneuver,by fiat, three majority governments (putting to one side his minority period from 1972-4). Those changes included

1. The Official Languages Act;
   
2. The Multiculturalism Act;
   
3. The reorganization (and gutting) of the military;and
   
4. The Charter of no absolute Rights and constrained Freedoms.
   

Not bad, and not far from Hugo Chavez's depradations. I think he goes down in history as the Man Who Almost (singlehandedly) Wrecked Canada.

And I would respectfully disagree...

I would say that it was Mr.Mulroney who has caused the most damage to this country with his selling this country out economically and his selling out of the country to seperatists in Quebec and his constant acquiescent constitutional wranglings to get Quebec to sign on to the Constitution...

That damage was felt in '95 ,when we came a millimetre from breaking up...And continues today with the Bloq's presence in Parliament....

The destructive legacy to the fabric of this nation of Mr.Mulroney is far worse,in my opinion,than anything Trudeau ever did...

Edited November 28, 2010 by Jack Weber

[CANADIEN]

If you read Trudeau, Son of Quebec, Father of Canada (am I its only Yank reader) you'd see that he had a pretty ugly past. I suspect strongly that he had some dictatorial tendencies. He rammed many unwanted changes down Canada's throat,using his ability to maneuver,by fiat, three majority governments (putting to one side his minority period from 1972-4). Those changes included

1. The Official Languages Act;
   
2. The Multiculturalism Act;
   
3. The reorganization (and gutting) of the military;and
   
4. The Charter of no absolute Rights and constrained Freedoms.
   

Not bad, and not far from Hugo Chavez's depradations. I think he goes down in history as the Man Who Almost (singlehandedly) Wrecked Canada.

Not far from Hugo Chavez's depradations? Give your head a serious shake. And I am not even a big fan of Trudeau.

Edited November 28, 2010 by CANADIEN

[jbg]

And I would respectfully disagree...

I would say that it was Mr.Mulroney who has caused the most damage to this country with his selling this country out economically and his selling out of the country to seperatists in Quebec and his constant acquiescent constitutional wranglings to get Quebec to sign on to the Constitution...

That damage was felt in '95 ,when we came a millimetre from breaking up...And continues today with the Bloq's presence in Parliament....

The destructive legacy to the fabric of this nation of Mr.Mulroney is far worse,in my opinion,than anything Trudeau ever did...

I see your point but couldn't that be seen in pari materia with Trudeau's efforts to appease Quebec? Both failed and did a lot of damage in the process. Ditto Chretien's ministrations.

Not far from Hugo Chavez's depradations? Give your head a serious shake. And I am not even a big fan of Trudeau.

I shook my head and now have the same thinking. Maybe alogical explanation would help rather than your saying as you always do that you explained it elsewhere.

[g_bambino]

I call them Nazi-type policies because the three Liberal imposed policies, Official Languages/Official Bilingualism/Official Multiculturalism mimic Nazi Germany's totalitarian principle of government relating to racial superiority and or authoritarianism.

Firstly, the laws were voted on by democratically elected representatives in parliament. So, you can drop the "imposed" and "totalitarianism" bullshit. Secondly, English Canadians are not a race. You can quit twisting the word "race", as well.

I don't have to get into specific clauses...

No, what you mean is: you don't want to get into specific clauses. Why? Because you know there's nothing in any of the laws you call "Nazi-type" to justify your hyperbolic frothing about them being akin to what came out of the Office of the Führer und Reichskanzler.

Unless you can prove otherwise, these policies could have been designed to reduce the importance of the majority English language/society/jobs...

They could have been; anything's possible. But, they weren't, as shown by the substance of the laws themselves.