Ruby Dhalla assistant's purse stolen in India

[Michael Bluth]

Yesterday, while Ruby Dhalla was touring India, her purse was stolen by two children. Ages 11 and 9.

The Liberal MPs first response was outrageously callous:

In that initial interview, Dhalla was quoted as saying she “cannot control what the police do ... and I hope that those young kids learn from this incident.”

She eventually changed her tune. But it appears to be a case of too little too late.

Here's a link to the story.

[M.Dancer]

Yesterday, while Ruby Dhalla was touring India, her purse was stolen by two children. Ages 11 and 9.

The Liberal MPs first response was outrageously callous:

She eventually changed her tune. But it appears to be a case of too little too late.

Here's a link to the story.

Well she didn't file a police report and she didn't see the beating. Not sure if she even knew they were beaten at the time of the first quote. I think everyone can at the same time deplore the ploice action and hope the brats leaned a lesson.

[Oleg Bach]

Yesterday, while Ruby Dhalla was touring India, her purse was stolen by two children. Ages 11 and 9.

The Liberal MPs first response was outrageously callous:

She eventually changed her tune. But it appears to be a case of too little too late.

Here's a link to the story.

You can tell by the image of Rudy Dhalla that she is not of the lower cast - that she is from the very privledge upper class. For a liberal she sure does not adhere to the liberating doctrine of compassion - forgiveness - tolerance and equality - seems she has taken office strickly on the grounds that it grants status and privledge. She should have protested immediately the beating of children. Looks like another failure of multi-culturalism..to presume that we have changed and assimulated the attitudes of immigrants - the high and the low is a mistake. This woman should join the elite end of the Conservative party. That may be a more honest approach - I could have sworn the elitism was frowned upon within the liberal party. Apparently anything goes when affirmative action elects someone strickly on race and not quality of person. Seems this woman is a jerk.

[M.Dancer]

You can tell by the image of Rudy Dhalla that she is not of the lower cast - that she is from the very privledge upper class.

She is not from any caste....sheesh...she is not Hindu.

[Oleg Bach]

She is not from any caste....sheesh...she is not Hindu.

Looks like you found a technical glitch in my statement - well done- nice to see a person with a sharp eye for detail and defect. Let me clarify - She has a very powerful persona - a very attractive and WELL BREED WOMAN- put it this way - you do not get those genetics from breeding the poor with the poor - she is privledged - that is my point. Her attitude is one of superiourity. They said "you can not control the police" - some one of her genetic rank could have shouted out one command and the lowly subcontinental cops would freeze in their tracks.. I should have used the word class not cast...sorry and thanks for the correction.

[Michael Bluth]

Well she didn't file a police report and she didn't see the beating. Not sure if she even knew they were beaten at the time of the first quote. I think everyone can at the same time deplore the ploice action and hope the brats leaned a lesson.

Her first reaction, usually the indicator of a person's truest feelings, was indeed quite callous.

Whether or not she saw the beating, to dismiss it because she cannot control what the police do is very callous.

Who knows if there even was a beating. Hopefully there wasn't.

Dion has another loose cannon to get under control...

[M.Dancer]

Whether or not she saw the beating, to dismiss it because she cannot control what the police do is very callous.

I believe if she knew there was a beating when she gave that quote, you would be correct.

I would say the question is, did she know?

[M.Dancer]

Looks like you found a technical glitch in my statement - well done- nice to see a person with a sharp eye for detail and defect. Let me clarify - She has a very powerful persona - a very attractive and WELL BREED WOMAN- put it this way - you do not get those genetics from breeding the poor with the poor - she is privledged - that is my point. Her attitude is one of superiourity. They said "you can not control the police" - some one of her genetic rank could have shouted out one command and the lowly subcontinental cops would freeze in their tracks.. I should have used the word class not cast...sorry and thanks for the correction.

I'm adding you to the ignore feature.

[Michael Bluth]

I believe if she knew there was a beating when she gave that quote, you would be correct.

I would say the question is, did she know?

To be more exact, she was under the belief there was a beating when she gave that quote.

It now appears that nobody really knows if there was a beating or not.

ETA: The facts on this story keep shifting. Seems like it was Dhalla's assistant's purse that was stolen...

Edited January 10, 2008 by Michael Bluth

[M.Dancer]

Okay, it seems perhaps she had heard of a beating....

Indian media reported the children were "beaten black and blue" by the police "with no mercy shown to them" and said Ms. Dhalla's initial response when told what happened was: "I cannot control what the police does. ... But I hope that those young kids learn from this incident."

.....but

But the 33-year-old MP for Brampton, Ont., said in an interview from India yesterday the local media reports were "misconstrued" and "hyped up."

"It's blown out of proportion," she said. "... they weren't beaten black and blue."

...and

Ms. Dhalla said it wasn't until the next day when the media spoke to her that she heard allegations the children had been beaten and jailed overnight.

She said she asked the authorities to release the children and said she did not want to pursue the incident any further.

The purse was retrieved by police.

"I strongly condemn children being treated like this. Now the police commissioner has launched an inquiry," she said.

Ms. Dhalla said the children, whom The Times of India identified as brother and sister, Sachin, 9, and Bindia, 5, were not visited by parents or any family members.

They were held in jail for 24 hours until she asked for them to be released.

"It's really, really shocking," she said. "Hopefully, this incident ... will encourage the government that this doesn't happen [again]."

She said she was told that they were examined by medical officials and that there were no bruises.

"The story has been exaggerated a little bit," she said

.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home

[Michael Bluth]

Okay, it seems perhaps she had heard of a beating....

Thats the key. Her first reaction was horrible and callous.

At least she backtracked pretty quickly.

Still that first reaction was quite nasty.

[Oleg Bach]

Okay, it seems perhaps she had heard of a beating....

.....but

...and

.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/sto...ernational/home

Life is cheap there and children of the poor are less than dogs - Maybe this woman can set up a child care center at the human society building and put some of the local street urchants that hang about our public housing projects in little cages..............seriously - if there is any chance that this lady holds poor children in contempt there - then she will hold poor children in contempt HERE.. And beating them with a stick in all probablity may be in her mind just as useful in Canada so they "learn their lesson" - this third world leakage of values into the Canadian scheme of things has to be monitored - keep an eye on this one - and don't give her authority of the Children's Aid Society.

[guyser]

Gee, I sure hope the OP never tries to chastise anyone on misleading titles .

Edited January 10, 2008 by guyser

[Michael Bluth]

Gee, I sure hope the OP never tries to chastise anyone on misleading titles .

I corrected myself in Post #9. It was her assistant's purse that was stolen.

Too bad she did support the actions of the police ... at first. Then she realized what a terrible thing she said and tried to blame it on the media.

tsk tsk tsk

[BubberMiley]

Too bad she did support the actions of the police ... at first. Then she realized what a terrible thing she said and tried to blame it on the media.

tsk tsk tsk

She claims she was unaware that they were beaten when she made the intial quote. You have not provided any evidence to support your counterargument. It sounds like yet another partisan smear, which is particularly vile when it comes from someone who complains to all and sundry at the slightest criticism of the CPC.

I think even the CPC must wince at wannabe hacks who make the party look like it's comprised of whining, bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical oafs.

Not that I'm making a personal attack. I'm just saying the party must hate people who do that because it ultimately brings them down.

[Michael Bluth]

She claims she was unaware that they were beaten when she made the intial quote. You have not provided any evidence to support your counterargument.

Now she claims that. She wasn't making that claim at the time she was first interviewed. Here's what she said about the alleged beatings when asked about them.

In that initial interview, Dhalla was quoted as saying she “cannot control what the police do ... and I hope that those young kids learn from this incident.”

It sounds like yet another partisan smear, which is particularly vile when it comes from someone who complains to all and sundry at the slightest criticism of the CPC.

Vile? Such histrionics makes you sound like a ...

whining, bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical oaf

Edited January 11, 2008 by Michael Bluth

[jdobbin]

Gee, I sure hope the OP never tries to chastise anyone on misleading titles .

Perhaps the header should be changed.

[jdobbin]

She claims she was unaware that they were beaten when she made the intial quote. You have not provided any evidence to support your counterargument. It sounds like yet another partisan smear, which is particularly vile when it comes from someone who complains to all and sundry at the slightest criticism of the CPC.

I think even the CPC must wince at wannabe hacks who make the party look like it's comprised of whining, bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical oafs.

Not that I'm making a personal attack. I'm just saying the party must hate people who do that because it ultimately brings them down.

I've reported the thread title and hopefully we will see a change.

Edited January 11, 2008 by jdobbin

[Keepitsimple]

I'll give her the benefit of the doubt and chalk it up to poorly chosen words in a faraway land. I think everybody should have bigger fish to fry. Having said that, I find Ruby and Gerrard Kennedy to be two of the biggest blabbermouths in politics. Give them a mike (or not) and they never seem to shut up.

[Michael Bluth]

I've reported the thread title and hopefully we will see a change.

Sure hope you reported the whining, bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical oafs part of BMs post while you were at it. Given your uncompromising sense of fairness and dedication to the rules of the board.

On second thought, you probably didn't.

[BubberMiley]

Sure hope you reported the whining, bitter, self-righteous, hypocritical oafs part of BMs post while you were at it.

Actually you called me one, but I was referring hypothetically to how the CPC might react to such characters making them look bad. If you took it personal, that was purely your own conjecture.

[Shakeyhands]

Seems the CPC, if Bluth's assertion were true, would love to have the Rubster, all that Law and Order and keeping the youth in line and all........

[BubberMiley]

I think many CPCers on this site have had similar prescriptions for youth crime.

But in terms of my previous statement, I think this year will show a significant decline in negative campaigning in general. It got out of control in the U.S. and they are clearly working to improve that. It appears it simply doesn't work anymore.

In Canada, it never was particularly effective. The most famous examples are the Reform backlash after the Chretien disfigurement closeup and the comparable, more recent Liberal "soldiers in the streets" fear campaign. Both of these ads did much more harm than good.

Blogs and political forums and the internet in general has decentralized election communications, so now campaigns run the risk of suffering extreme damage from overly eager, competitive, abrasive push-pollers. Right now in the U.S., all the major campaigns have had to disassociate themselves on numerous occasions from these exhuberant but ultimately extremely ineffective volunteers.

It would seem we will increasingly find parties and campaigns politely asking their supporters to refrain from engaging in these kinds of forums because their posts rarely generate any positive effect, but they run a tremendous risk of inflicting considerable damage to the party.

[Oleg Bach]

I think many CPCers on this site have had similar prescriptions for youth crime.

But in terms of my previous statement, I think this year will show a significant decline in negative campaigning in general. It got out of control in the U.S. and they are clearly working to improve that. It appears it simply doesn't work anymore.

In Canada, it never was particularly effective. The most famous examples are the Reform backlash after the Chretien disfigurement closeup and the comparable, more recent Liberal "soldiers in the streets" fear campaign. Both of these ads did much more harm than good.

Blogs and political forums and the internet in general has decentralized election communications, so now campaigns run the risk of suffering extreme damage from overly eager, competitive, abrasive push-pollers. Right now in the U.S., all the major campaigns have had to disassociate themselves on numerous occasions from these exhuberant but ultimately extremely ineffective volunteers.

It would seem we will increasingly find parties and campaigns politely asking their supporters to refrain from engaging in these kinds of forums because their posts rarely generate any positive effect, but they run a tremendous risk of inflicting considerable damage to the party.

Very wise post. Because of the net, reactionary persons and theorists can communicate half baked ideas at the touch of a few buttons. This has the effect of sending out irresponsible messages - messages that if askew - no one is held responsible for. In short there is no accountablity. If you must use the net - treat it no different than you would pubishing in a news paper. I my self have caused a fair amount of chaos by tossing as much crap against the wall hoping some speculative idea might stick by chance - that I might just hit the mark and speak the absolute truth - problem is for every valid rant that is useful - a dozen useless and irresponsible rants pollute the digital world just a little more causeing harm. I am learning the hard way - this key board is not a toy.

[jdobbin]

I think many CPCers on this site have had similar prescriptions for youth crime.

But in terms of my previous statement, I think this year will show a significant decline in negative campaigning in general. It got out of control in the U.S. and they are clearly working to improve that. It appears it simply doesn't work anymore.

Might be a reason why Obama's message has gotten a good reception in the U.S. he has appealed to people who are interested in what brings people together rather than what tears them apart. Clinton has to tread lightly in criticism of that message while reinforcing a message that she is best suited to the job. Being associated with a negative campaign for any of the leading Democrats could be the end of the run for the candidacy.

I have no idea what will happen with the Republicans. Romney has been the recipient of a lot of attacks but he no longer has the momentum. We are going to see a lot more on McCain. You have to wonder if the old attacks are going to reemerge on him in a round about way.

As for this thread, the title has been changed to an accurate statement of what happened. I don't know that the Tory party would want to be linked to such a statement and would probably take action if they knew about it.