Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I would have thought you would be quite grateful for Dion, I figure at this point he's the only reason we aren't headed for an election and a Liberal Gov't. Do explain that one Shakey? If an election meant a Liberal Government or any reasonable chance of one Steph would have called one, wouldn't he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 If an election meant a Liberal Government or any reasonable chance of one Steph would have called one, wouldn't he? Shakey, maybe type that last comment slower so MB gets what you were saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Shakey, maybe type that last comment slower so MB gets what you were saying. Good addition Fortunata. Glad to see you have an exemption from the prohibition against personal attacks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I would have thought you would be quite grateful for Dion, I figure at this point he's the only reason we aren't headed for an election and a Liberal Gov't. I think it's a great time for Dion to pull the plug, personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Good addition Fortunata. Glad to see you have an exemption from the prohibition against personal attacks. Fortunata has challenged my right to post there. Don't take it personal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Fortunata has challenged my right to post there. Don't take it personal. You are such a liar as I have proven more than once. Quit lying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 You are such a liar as I have proven more than once. Quit lying. You mean he's not really a left-winger? Why would anyone lie about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 You are such a liar as I have proven more than once. Quit lying. I'm a liar? What is this below? I am demonstrating the facts. You aor ein no position to call me a liar. jbg, who are you and where did you come from? You seem to bring up the USA in your posts under Canadian Politics-not where they belong.As far as I can tell reading your posts you haven't once posed a non-Conservative opinion; you denigrate Trudeau in particular (not that he shouldn't come under criticism) and most things liberal in general yet you call yourself a liberal? Canada is but a blip on the US radar so I cannot understand your interest unless it is just to put down this country in any way you can. And attending a CPC convention? Why? I mean, really, a CPC convention? A Canadian political convention that IS NOT liberal, in fact is far right wing? What's it to you? Strange, strange, strange. You can't find harbOUr in your own country or what? Funny JGB, my finding an American (or Brit or Spanish or Danish or any other nationality for that matter) at a domestic Canadian political convention would only be considered anti-American by someone who is grasping at straws.As for the who are you, where did you come from, it was purely rhetorical. Don't care, don't care, don't care. But it is strange and as you co-opt Canadian political forums for discussion of ANOTHER COUNTRY (more anti-Americanism?) it is appropriate to comment on it. I'm sure you could find the correct place if you try. By the way, I have a great sense of humOUr. That's a spelling mistake by whose standards? When in Rome............ You call that a personal attack? Better re-read boyo. I called you on co-opting threads that had nothing to do with Canada/US or just USA to talk about the US. I was just on the Canada/US thread and that's where you should be talking about the US. Not under "Liberals Hidden Agenda" which actually has nothing to do with Harry Truman nor Canadian (mis)spelling, which was totally inappropriate since you are on a Canadian forum, and of course we use Canadian spelling. And I still find it strange that someone of a different nationality not even living in this country would attend a Canadian political convention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I'm a liar? What is this below? I am demonstrating the facts. You aor ein no position to call me a liar. He makes a compelling case. An American left-winger attending a Canadian right-wing political convention sends the BS detector off the scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shakeyhands Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 Do explain that one Shakey?If an election meant a Liberal Government or any reasonable chance of one Steph would have called one, wouldn't he? I think you need to re-read what I posted. I stand by what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted May 10, 2008 Report Share Posted May 10, 2008 I think you need to re-read what I posted. I stand by what I said. Stand tall Shakey. I did re-read, fair enough. So what's the game plan? Dump him before the election or try and dump him in the election a la John Turner? Didn't the caucus stop Dion from forcing an election in the fall? Can't remember the timeline.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I'm a liar? What is this below? I am demonstrating the facts. You aor ein no position to call me a liar. I'm in a great position to call you one since not once in all those old posts you dug up did I say you shouldn't or didn't have the right to post here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I'm in a great position to call you one since not once in all those old posts you dug up did I say you shouldn't or didn't have the right to post here. Sure I did and I quoted it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestViking Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 (edited) He makes a compelling case. An American left-winger attending a Canadian right-wing political convention sends the BS detector off the scale. Just one small problem - JBG was there in Montreal and met with many Canadian Conservatives, including yours truly, and I was a bona fide delegate at the CPC convention. Conventions include observers from many places and interests. Edited May 11, 2008 by WestViking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaysFan Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Except that JBG or I believe the other nic he uses, Yank-in-NY on some other Canadian political forums isn't a left winger at all. For example, here's JBG expressing his views on homosexuality and political correctness. http://forums.canadiancontent.net/lounge/3...html#post592697 And it does appear strange that a left winger would be a member of the Blogging Tories http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic4980.html I'd supply more posts but the wayback internet archive machine's not working so well with the old talkon.ca forums where he readily admitted to being right wing. JBG a left winger? Not a chance in hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Except that JBG or I believe the other nic he uses, Yank-in-NY on some other Canadian political forums isn't a left winger at all.For example, here's JBG expressing his views on homosexuality and political correctness. http://forums.canadiancontent.net/lounge/3...html#post592697 And it does appear strange that a left winger would be a member of the Blogging Tories http://www.bloggingtories.ca/forums/topic4980.html I'd supply more posts but the wayback internet archive machine's not working so well with the old talkon.ca forums where he readily admitted to being right wing. JBG a left winger? Not a chance in hell. Let's clarify one thing. Except for one minor registration about three years ago, the only names I use are "JBG" and "JBGUSA". I am not "Yank in New York".As far as being a left-winger, maybe "liberal" would describe my beliefs better than than "left wing". I am a liberal in the sense that I believe in breaking down class and tradition-bound barriers to progress, acheivement and work. The New World is about opportunity, and people showing what they can do and offer. That is the respect in which I am "liberal", i.e. the way Adam Smith and John Locke were. In a more modern context, I regard Harry S. Truman in the US as a true liberal, for starting in a forceful and effective manner the integration of Ameircan society, and recognizing Israel, a force for progress in the world. I am not prepared to abandon a great ideology to the likes of Gagliano, Chretien or others who are thugs who borrow the label and where the mantle, but consider common people to be consumers of "beer and popcorn". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 That's classical liberalism, which isn't left-wing at all. You've found your home in the Republican party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Sure I did and I quoted it. No, you quoted my concern about you co-opting threads. Nice try though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 No, you quoted my concern about you co-opting threads. Nice try though. No, I quoted your concern about an American going to the CPC convention and then posting on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 No, I quoted your concern about an American going to the CPC convention and then posting on this board. I was and am not "concerned" you attended a CPC convention. I found it "strange." I still find it strange. And you linking the two together? Grasping at straws, which I guess is what you do when you are caught out. You seem to bring up the USA in your posts under Canadian Politics-not where they belong.But it is strange and as you co-opt Canadian political forums for discussion of ANOTHER COUNTRY (more anti-Americanism?) it is appropriate to comment on it. I'm sure you could find the correct place if you try. Now drop it jbg and don't lie about me anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 Now drop it jbg and don't lie about me anymore.I am not a dog holding a tennis ball you want. You are a liar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fortunata Posted May 11, 2008 Report Share Posted May 11, 2008 I am not a dog holding a tennis ball you want. You are a liar. Drop your childish propaganda - never did I say you did not have the right to post here. Ever. You didn't prove it. You can't prove it because it didn't happen yet you perpetuate that lie every once in awhile. Either you are dreaming or you have a reading incomprehension. I commented on you co-opting threads. Period. That's it; that's all. I now want an apology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Drop your childish propaganda - never did I say you did not have the right to post here. Ever. You didn't prove it. You can't prove it because it didn't happen yet you perpetuate that lie every once in awhile. Either you are dreaming or you have a reading incomprehension. I commented on you co-opting threads. Period. That's it; that's all. I now want an apology. "We love to say we're sorry" - Arrogant Worms, "Forgive Us We're Canadian". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LastViking Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 This weekend's Ipsos Reid poll put Dion back in the lead (again) in the TrendLines Seat Counts: 132 - 117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdobbin Posted May 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 This weekend's Ipsos Reid poll put Dion back in the lead (again) in the TrendLines Seat Counts: 132 - 117 Last Ipsos poll I saw was for May 8 and it had the Tories in the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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