White Doors Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 What was the final margin in 2006? Nanos again confirms some significant differences from 2006.Quebec remains a Tory wasteland this campaign, their losses there will be a minimum 4 seats. Add that to the 3 they will lose in Nfld. and the party will be down about 7 ridings before it gets to the Ontario border. Seems it all boils down to Ontario - who can argue it should be settled anywhere else. Wrong. Between Quebec and Nfld there are these provninces you may not have heard of, but they are Nova Scotia, PEI and New Brunswick. Conservatives are poised to add one riding in NS, one in PEI and 2-4 in NB. Did you go to school in the US by chance? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 From Battleground 2008 today: "According to polling conducted Oct. 6 - 8 in Ontario's 20 battleground ridings, the Conservatives held 36% support, a loss of 4% from polling done Oct. 1 - 4. With Quebec seemingly out of touch for Tories, Ontario is considered the key battleground in determining the 2008 election outcome: (Brackets show percentage point change from Oct. 1-4 poll) Conservatives 36% (-4) Liberals 33 (+5) NDP 21 (same) Green 11 (-1] Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 From Battleground 2008 today:"According to polling conducted Oct. 6 - 8 in Ontario's 20 battleground ridings, the Conservatives held 36% support, a loss of 4% from polling done Oct. 1 - 4. With Quebec seemingly out of touch for Tories, Ontario is considered the key battleground in determining the 2008 election outcome: (Brackets show percentage point change from Oct. 1-4 poll) Conservatives 36% (-4) Liberals 33 (+5) NDP 21 (same) Green 11 (-1] Didn't you just talk about this an hour or two ago? This isn't new information. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Didn't you just talk about this an hour or two ago?This isn't new information. Calculated your TSX losses today? Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Calculated your TSX losses today? Yup, 6-7%. Of course, it's just on paper, didn't you know? In 20 years I think we'll be back up. Interestingly, the Dow is holding, so far, at 8,000. Last I checked we were in capitulation volume too. I think it will be time to dive in with two feet first next week. Of course, I don't pretend to be able to foretell the market like some of you do. It's too bad you're wasting your time here when you could be making mega cash. FYI, see http://www.cnbc.com/id/27114456. Stronger volume in stock trading Friday could raise hopes that the eight-day blowout on Wall Street is pushing toward a capitulation bottom. Over the past week the stock market has posted its biggest drop ever, tumbling more than 20 percent and triggering angst and despair among both investors and traders on the floor. The powerful selloff continued Friday, but there also was a bit more intense volume accompanying it: close to 2 billion shares trading hands with an hour left in trading, nearing what most experts consider enough for capitulation. Edited October 10, 2008 by Jobu Quote
White Doors Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Calculated your TSX losses today? ? You are gloating about people losing their money? That's a weird tactic? no? Quote Those Dern Rednecks done outfoxed the left wing again.~blueblood~
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Yup, 6-7%. Of course, it's just on paper, didn't you know? So you don't really own any of these falling equities? Lol That explains a lot ... Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 So you don't really own any of these falling equities? Lol That explains a lot ... Huh? From Stocks 101: Neither gains nor losses are realized until one sells. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Huh?From Stocks 101: Neither gains nor losses are realized until one sells. Would The Harpy consider today's latest carnage a good buying oppourtunity? Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 (edited) Would The Harpy consider today's latest carnage a good buying oppourtunity? Not sure, but I would. In fact, I've bought quite a lot today. Markets on their way back up as we speak, but I'm actually hoping for a last 30 min sell-off then a classic Tues-Fri rally next week. Time will tell. EDIT - Less than 100 points down now on the DOW. Edited October 10, 2008 by Jobu Quote
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 BTW, don't just listen to Harper. Listen to the world's greatest investor in history, Warren Buffet: "You know, five years from now, ten years from now, we'll look back on this period and we'll see that you could have made some extraordinary (stock market) buys. That doesn't mean it won't get more extraordinary a week or a month from now. I have no idea what the stock market is going to do next month or six months from now. I do know that the American economy, over a period of time, will do very well, and people who own a piece of it will do well." http://www.cnbc.com/id/27116449 Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Not sure, but I would. In fact, I've bought quite a lot today.Markets on their way back up as we speak, but I'm actually hoping for a last 30 min sell-off then a classic Tues-Fri rally next week. Time will tell. EDIT - Less than 100 points down now on the DOW. So your adrenalin skyrockets on each dead cat bounce. Throw your copy of Stocks 101 out the window - there is nowhere to hide in this market. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 So your adrenalin skyrockets on each dead cat bounce. Throw your copy of Stocks 101 out the window - there is nowhere to hide in this market. Actually, it only rushes when I see classic signs of capitulation. I still home for some more downward pressure over the next little while so that I can get more cash in off the sidelines, but bottom line, there are certainly great buying opportunities. We may not see these levels ever again. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Liberals pull ahead of Conservatives in British Columbia battlegrounds: CTV - Strategic Counsel, today: "For the first time during the 2008 election, the Liberals have pulled ahead of the Conservatives in British Columbia battleground ridings. That's in stark contrast to the start of the campaign period when the Conservatives were polling at 45% compared to the Liberals 25%. In polling conducted Oct. 6-8, the Liberals had 33% support to the Conservatives 31%, in key swing B.C. ridings. The NDP were in third place at 23%, and could have a huge role to play on election day if some of that support moves to the Liberal camp". Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Liberals pull ahead of Conservatives in British Columbia battlegrounds:CTV - Strategic Counsel, today: "For the first time during the 2008 election, the Liberals have pulled ahead of the Conservatives in British Columbia battleground ridings. That's in stark contrast to the start of the campaign period when the Conservatives were polling at 45% compared to the Liberals 25%. In polling conducted Oct. 6-8, the Liberals had 33% support to the Conservatives 31%, in key swing B.C. ridings. The NDP were in third place at 23%, and could have a huge role to play on election day if some of that support moves to the Liberal camp". hehe Third time you've posted the same poll in the last 6 hours? Quote
jdobbin Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Posted October 10, 2008 Ipsos Reid poll: http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features...d4-17ae8b26fbdc The poll, conducted exclusively for Canwest News Service and Global National, said Conservative support was at 34 per cent, compared to 29 per cent for the Liberals, 18 per cent for the New Democratic Party, nine per cent for the Bloc Quebecois and eight per cent for the Greens. The pollster is predicting a minority. It certainly looks like that. The aggregate of polls shows that to be the case. Quote
jdobbin Posted October 10, 2008 Author Report Posted October 10, 2008 Can't recall if Angus Reid's poll was reported yesterday: http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/view/31968...n_canadian_race The Conservative party is holding on to the top spot in Canada’s electoral race, according to a poll by Angus Reid Strategies released by the Toronto Star. 35 per cent of respondents would vote for the governing Tories in this month’s election to the House of Commons.The Liberal party is second with 27 per cent, followed by the New Democratic Party (NDP) with 18 per cent, the Green party with 10 per cent, and the Bloc Québécois with nine per cent. Support for the Grits increased by two points in four days, while backing for the Tories fell by five points. Quote
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Ipsos Reid poll:http://www.canada.com/topics/news/features...d4-17ae8b26fbdc The pollster is predicting a minority. It certainly looks like that. The aggregate of polls shows that to be the case. Yep, would have to be an election day shocker to see a majority. I guess it remains to be seen what, if any, effect the close of the markets on a downnote, the employment numbers and "the interview" have over the weekend. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Yep, would have to be an election day shocker to see a majority. I guess it remains to be seen what, if any, effect the close of the markets on a downnote, the employment numbers and "the interview" have over the weekend. Why don't you give your opinion of yet another poll today showing falling Tory support? This poll shows the gap narrowing by 7%. 7%! Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Why don't you give your opinion of yet another poll today showing falling Tory support? This poll shows the gap narrowing by 7%. 7%! Which one? H/D, Ekos and Nanos are all going in the same direction... Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Which one? H/D, Ekos and Nanos are all going in the same direction... Should I post the third battleground riding summary from CTV - Strategic Counsel, the one showing the Tory carnage in Quebec? No, not even I could be that cruel to Conservatives. Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 Should I post the third battleground riding summary from CTV - Strategic Counsel, the one showing the Tory carnage in Quebec?No, not even I could be that cruel to Conservatives. You mean the same poll, from two days ago, that you've posted 4 or 5 times already? I prefer more recent polls with less than 5% margin of error, but maybe that's just me. Quote
Vancouver King Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 CBC just reported outrage in some Quebec circles over Harper's unseemly haste to junp on Dion's comprehension problem during the Halifax interview. The anger apparently stems from the 'free ride' Harper has always been given by Quebecers on his tortured French syntax etc. Although down to a half dozen seats there, Tories continue to stumble in the province. What if they win a minority without any elected representation from Quebec? Quote When the people have no tyrant, their public opinion becomes one. ...... Lord Lytton
Jobu Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 CBC just reported outrage in some Quebec circles over Harper's unseemly haste to junp on Dion's comprehension problem during the Halifax interview. The anger apparently stems from the 'free ride' Harper has always been given by Quebecers on his tortured French syntax etc. Although down to a half dozen seats there, Tories continue to stumble in the province. What if they win a minority without any elected representation from Quebec? What if they win a majority without any representation from Quebec? That would be great. Quote
capricorn Posted October 10, 2008 Report Posted October 10, 2008 CBC just reported outrage in some Quebec circles over Harper's unseemly haste to junp on Dion's comprehension problem during the Halifax interview. Good old CBC. The so called outraged "circles" are Duceppe and his entourage, and that was to be expected. Duceppe is making it a French/English issue and French speakers having to do better in English than English speakers in French. I toured the French blogs in Quebec and reaction to the interview pretty well mirrors what you will find right here on this forum. the added touch in some commentary is, of course, the English/French aspect. What if they win a minority without any elected representation from Quebec? Oh come on VK. You're smart enough to know that won't happen so why ask that question. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
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