The New World Order

Pindar · January 4, 2008

Yes I agree, we need a few more kids like my granddaughter, she was the teachers nighmare and kept getting expelled for stating her beliefs, they didn't like her ability to pursuade others to go out on stike with her. It was kept covered up.

Yes, It would be a very very good thing to encourage the kids to think and

to reason independently!

Never thought of that one, but if the kids realy starts thinking they, the elite, have a huge problem.

But in order to let them think properly stop givintg them fluoride, really, fluoride makes people docile

and less resitant to authorities:

"At the end of the Second World War, the United States Government sent Charles Eliot Perkins, a research worker in chemistry, biochemistry, physiology and pathology, to take charge of the vast Farben chemical plants in Germany.
"While there he was told by the German chemists of a scheme which had been worked out by them during the war and adopted by the German General Staff.

"This was to control the population in any given area through mass medication of drinking water. In this scheme, sodium fluoride occupied a prominent place.

"Repeated doses of infinitesimal amounts of fluoride will in time reduce an individual's power to resist domination by slowly poisoning and narcotising a certain area of the brain and will thus make him submissive to the will of those who wish to govern him.

"Both the Germans and the Russians added sodium fluoride to the drinking water of prisoners of war to make them stupid and docile."

you probably also didn't know that fluoride was a waste product of the Manhattan Project (Atom Bomb)?

I think some folks on here need to re-read their Orwell.

Right! His real name was Eric Blair and he knew about the 'elite' because he was a lot in politics etc etc.

Thats why he wrote it.

Well, it's now time to wake up!

Pindar

Edited January 4, 2008 by Pindar

White Doors · January 4, 2008

I want to be an elite and fake some moon landings!

Hey, that reminds me of a classic simpson's song..

Pindar · January 4, 2008

I want to be an elite and fake some moon landings!
Hey, that reminds me of a classic simpson's song..

rest assured, I know a lot about the elite and i can tell you you don't want to be a member, they are

evil to the core!

And btw you can't become one for reasons I might go in later.

btw started to investigate what I said above?

Right!

Pindar

GostHacked · January 4, 2008

How many of you are suceptable to hypnosis? Have you ever been hypnotised?

I was at a show where a hypnotist was performing, I volunteered to get on stage. I got sucked in for the most part, then after about 10 minutes I was just sitting there while all the others on stage where doing exactly what the hypnotist says. He came over to me and told me to go sit back in the audience. Glad I did, he made those people beleive the chair they were sitting on was the best lover they have ever had. I just snapped out of it. Fell out of the hypnosis. I did not realize it then, but I guess that means I won't let anyone run my life but me. I do make bad decisions, but at least they are all my own and the result is, I learn from them, and those mistakes do not happen again.

I think people are influenced very easiy, and therefore their views and opinions can be influenced in a huge way without them really knowing about it. Television is a form of hypnosis. Ditch it for a month, read the paper, read news online, discuss it with others. Stop watching that box. Ever wonder why that box is getting bigger? Strap a webcam on it, and you have a 1984 wall TV that watches your every move. I should add that the Internet is slowly becoming a hypnotizing medium as well. As websites become more of an advertising medium than delivering actuall news or events or having real discussion on an important topic. Instead we get news anchors from MSM outlets that trash talk instead of actually digging into the facts and having a real important disuccion with the person they are talking about.

One thing people do way to often is : When someone finds of discovers something is not right, or they have the instinct that something is wrong, they dwell on it only a short time, then dismiss it because the powers that be told us what the deal is. So you go right back into your chosen form of hypnosis. This creates a huge self conflict. I used to go against my better judgement (which got me into much personal and financial trouble), but not anymore. Since I have been taking control of things in my life, I am much happier.

Person A - - I got screwed

Person B - - Gonna do anything about it?

Person A - - What can I do about it? I am only one person?

Person B - - So you are just giving up?

Person A - - Yeah,

Self defeatists really. One person does make all the difference. ll it takes is one person to stand up and talk.

We are surrounded by so many disstractions, tv, movies, video games, ect ect, that important news like laws being passed are left up to the goverment, and most of the time these laws do not make things better. But we would never notice because we are so concerned about the role model that is Brittney Spears, we are saddened by her actions, and hope she gets better, and her poor little 16 yr old sister is preggy with an older mans baby. This is the shit that gets more airtime than peace talks in the middle east. Anyone see anything wrong with it?

Things are also set up in a way that accountability is a thing of the past. How can the government get away with any large scandal and some of those are still IN the government. Rediculous sham and show trials to make it look like the bad guys are getting caught.

I ask that people stop being so damn complacent in their lives. I encourage questions and free thinking thought.

M.Dancer · January 4, 2008

I want to be an elite and fake some moon landings!
Hey, that reminds me of a classic simpson's song..

Who controls the British crown?
Who keeps the metric system down?

We do, We do.

Who keeps Atlantis off the maps?

Who keeps the Martians under wraps?

We do, we do.

Who keeps back the electric car?

Who makes Steve Guttenberg a star?

We do, we do.

Who robs cavefish of their sight?

Who rigs every Oscar night?

We do, we dooooooo.

Pindar · January 4, 2008

How many of you are suceptable to hypnosis? Have you ever been hypnotised?
I was at a show where a hypnotist was performing, I volunteered to get on stage. I got sucked in for the most part, then after about 10 minutes I was just sitting there while all the others on stage where doing exactly what the hypnotist says. He came over to me and told me to go sit back in the audience. Glad I did, he made those people beleive the chair they were sitting on was the best lover they have ever had. I just snapped out of it. Fell out of the hypnosis. I did not realize it then, but I guess that means I won't let anyone run my life but me. I do make bad decisions, but at least they are all my own and the result is, I learn from them, and those mistakes do not happen again.

I think people are influenced very easiy, and therefore their views and opinions can be influenced in a huge way without them really knowing about it. Television is a form of hypnosis. Ditch it for a month, read the paper, read news online, discuss it with others. Stop watching that box. Ever wonder why that box is getting bigger? Strap a webcam on it, and you have a 1984 wall TV that watches your every move. I should add that the Internet is slowly becoming a hypnotizing medium as well. As websites become more of an advertising medium than delivering actuall news or events or having real discussion on an important topic. Instead we get news anchors from MSM outlets that trash talk instead of actually digging into the facts and having a real important disuccion with the person they are talking about.

One thing people do way to often is : When someone finds of discovers something is not right, or they have the instinct that something is wrong, they dwell on it only a short time, then dismiss it because the powers that be told us what the deal is. So you go right back into your chosen form of hypnosis. This creates a huge self conflict. I used to go against my better judgement (which got me into much personal and financial trouble), but not anymore. Since I have been taking control of things in my life, I am much happier.

Person A - - I got screwed

Person B - - Gonna do anything about it?

Person A - - What can I do about it? I am only one person?

Person B - - So you are just giving up?

Person A - - Yeah,

Self defeatists really. One person does make all the difference. ll it takes is one person to stand up and talk.

We are surrounded by so many disstractions, tv, movies, video games, ect ect, that important news like laws being passed are left up to the goverment, and most of the time these laws do not make things better. But we would never notice because we are so concerned about the role model that is Brittney Spears, we are saddened by her actions, and hope she gets better, and her poor little 16 yr old sister is preggy with an older mans baby. This is the shit that gets more airtime than peace talks in the middle east. Anyone see anything wrong with it?

Things are also set up in a way that accountability is a thing of the past. How can the government get away with any large scandal and some of those are still IN the government. Rediculous sham and show trials to make it look like the bad guys are getting caught.

I ask that people stop being so damn complacent in their lives. I encourage questions and free thinking thought.

how very well put!

And there is more to it.

e.g.

The elite create "mind-controlled slaves" all the way through all layers of society, and so they can control

any aspect of it, while at the same time it looks completely natural for us, people, so that whe don't question it.

There is so much more, there are so many layers.

Pindar

M.Dancer · January 4, 2008

There is only one way to thwart the mind controlling elite!!

http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

By the way, is it of any suprise that when you start talking about the illuminati, the internation Jewish conspiracy and the protocols of elders of zion are next on the list?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...tiprotocols.htm

...Moonbats

GostHacked · January 4, 2008

There is only one way to thwart the mind controlling elite!!
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

By the way, is it of any suprise that when you start talking about the illuminati, the internation Jewish conspiracy and the protocols of elders of zion are next on the list?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...tiprotocols.htm

...Moonbats

I have a better solution, turn off the TV.

Pindar · January 4, 2008

There is only one way to thwart the mind controlling elite!!
http://zapatopi.net/afdb/

By the way, is it of any suprise that when you start talking about the illuminati, the internation Jewish conspiracy and the protocols of elders of zion are next on the list?

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardt...tiprotocols.htm

...Moonbats

are you having trouble with what I am saying? If so, why?

Pindar

Edited January 4, 2008 by Pindar

M.Dancer · January 4, 2008

are you having trouble with what I am saying? If so, why?
Pin d"Ar

No. It's a big world and there's certainly room for people who feel the need for myths, fantasies and crackpot notions.

I'm just saying that the notions about the Illuminati are intrinsically linked with racist and anti-Semitic crap like the protocols and the international Jewish conspiracy. Probably because if someone is gullible and naive enough to believe one piece of repellent garbage they are also ignorant enough to believe another.

Pindar · January 4, 2008

No. It's a big world and there's certainly room for people who feel the need for myths, fantasies and crackpot notions.
I'm just saying that the notions about the Illuminati are intrinsically linked with racist and anti-Semitic crap like the protocols and the international Jewish conspiracy. Probably because if someone is gullible and naive enough to believe one piece of repellent garbage they are also ignorant enough to believe another.

what you are showing is that you realy have no idea what I am talking about.

Most people who have raised these same arguments.

However, the elite want you to believe this, because that way you stay out!

There is a special organisation, I have to look up the name, who will ridicule anyone

talking about the illuminati as racist etc etc etc.

But is it true? Investigate that for yourself before you start ridiculing (need for myths, fantasies and crackpot notions.)

And something else, you say I feel the need for need for myths, fantasies and crackpot notions.

However, I didn't know what I would find, and now I have found it, I don't like it at all!

I really don't need it! I want to get rid of it, but we can only do this collectively.

That is why I tell this to people.

I say a lot: prove me wrong! I want to be wrong!

You realy have no clue what it is about, and your reaction is a standard reaction right from the Tavistock Institute,

yes, it is not your own thought. try cultiviting those

Pindar

Edited January 4, 2008 by Pindar

GostHacked · January 4, 2008

No. It's a big world and there's certainly room for people who feel the need for myths, fantasies and crackpot notions.
I'm just saying that the notions about the Illuminati are intrinsically linked with racist and anti-Semitic crap like the protocols and the international Jewish conspiracy. Probably because if someone is gullible and naive enough to believe one piece of repellent garbage they are also ignorant enough to believe another.

Alright, strip the elusive Illuminati from it, religion and jewish conspiracies, and then start looking for the truth. What it comes down to is a group of self serving rich folk who are consolidating money/power/governments to have more control over the population with only a few voices calling the shots. Wether you think this is a good or bad thing, this is exactly what is happening across the board. Local(combination of townships and municipalities), provincial, federal, in sectors like education, business (corporations getting together), healthcare (medication is produced by only a few megapharms).

The European Union is a prime example of this. As is the pruposed Super Nafta and the North American Union. African Union is already in place. How can Africa have a Union of that nature when most of the countries within the continent cannot get their own shit together, but they do.

I don't care for using Illuminati as a tool to promote my views, for people like you just close the ears off right away.

Pindar · January 4, 2008

Alright, strip the elusive Illuminati from it, religion and jewish conspiracies, and then start looking for the truth. What it comes down to is a group of self serving rich folk who are consolidating money/power/governments to have more control over the population with only a few voices calling the shots. Wether you think this is a good or bad thing, this is exactly what is happening across the board. Local(combination of townships and municipalities), provincial, federal, in sectors like education, business (corporations getting together), healthcare (medication is produced by only a few megapharms).
The European Union is a prime example of this. As is the pruposed Super Nafta and the North American Union. African Union is already in place. How can Africa have a Union of that nature when most of the countries within the continent cannot get their own shit together, but they do.

I don't care for using Illuminati as a tool to promote my views, for people like you just close the ears off right away.

Right!

Pindar

Pindar · January 4, 2008

and something else, you have in the "protocolls" to replace 'jews' etc with freemason and the whole thing becomes clear!

Pindar

White Doors · January 4, 2008

rest assured, I know a lot about the elite and i can tell you you don't want to be a member, they are
evil to the core!

And btw you can't become one for reasons I might go in later.

btw started to investigate what I said above?

Right!

Pindar

Please tell me the reasons. I would really really like to become an elite.

It has been an all-consuming passion for me ever since I was a little feller.

White Doors · January 4, 2008

Thank you!!!

Pindar · January 4, 2008

Please tell me the reasons. I would really really like to become an elite.
It has been an all-consuming passion for me ever since I was a little feller.

you are not serious otherwise I would do that

Ik thank the serious people here very much for their replies.

I will go on despite the ridiculing. People who ridicule often don't know why they do that.

Pindar

White Doors · January 4, 2008

and something else, you have in the "protocolls" to replace 'jews' etc with freemason and the whole thing becomes clear!
Pindar

The Freemasons?

~groan~

That conspiracy theory has been going on for what, 400 years now?

Just goes to show that no matter how far society progresses there are always alot left behind.

Next thing they will be calling the sceptics 'witches' instead of 'sheeple'.

Because they have a monopoly on the TRVTH!#$%!$!$!$%#$%%!!!

White Doors · January 4, 2008

you are not serious otherwise I would do that
Ik thank the serious people here very much for their replies.

I will go on despite the ridiculing. People who ridicule often don't know why they do that.

Pindar

Is it part of the initiation ceremony of your little club that you have to surrender your sense of humour?

M.Dancer · January 4, 2008

Alright, strip the elusive Illuminati from it, religion and jewish conspiracies, and then start looking for the truth.

And you will still find tinfoil

What it comes down to is a group of self serving rich folk who are consolidating money/power/governments to have more control over the population with only a few voices calling the shots.

How many in a few? Is that why we have a UN that debates with each other and takes opposing views. Is that why we have nations that strive and compete with each other...because they are all, working together?

Wether you think this is a good or bad thing, this is exactly what is happening across the board. Local(combination of townships and municipalities), provincial, federal, in sectors like education, business (corporations getting together), healthcare (medication is produced by only a few megapharms).

Is it because you can only name a few that you think there are only a few? How many in a few? And these few (hundred) who compete against each other investing billions into research to be the first ...they are doing it because they all work together? Are you sure about that?

The European Union is a prime example of this.

Prime example of what? Democracy? elected leaders taking their cue from their electorate? Okay you got me there but I fail to see how the expansion of democracy helps your argument.

As is the pruposed Super Nafta and the North American Union.

A bugbear. Proposed mainly by people without power and talked about by people frightened silly. About as likely to happen as....

African Union is already in place. How can Africa have a Union of that nature when most of the countries within the continent cannot get their own shit together, but they do.

At last you are half correct. It is indeed in place and it's goal is to get africa working together and that's why it is there. A noble ideal. Still, an organization in a dysfunctional continent doesn't exactly further your argument.

I don't care for using Illuminati as a tool to promote my views, for people like you just close the ears off right away.

Most people will believe there is some secret order controlling things simply because the opposite is too scary for them. That the choas and conflict we see around us are natural by products of being stupid humans....far easier to believe there's a grand evil order and therefore hope it could be overthrown (with the help of the interweb!!!) than to believe that shit sometimes just happens.

capricorn · January 4, 2008

Someone mentioned hypnosis. Today happens to be World Hypnosis Day.

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I just hope we don't all self-hypnotize all at once. Who knows what a bunch of creepy buggers would do to us in our altered state.

Oleg Bach · January 5, 2008

Someone mentioned hypnosis. Today happens to be World Hypnosis Day.
World Hypnotism Day, January 4th. The very first day of it's kind when professionals in the field of hypnotism from various organizations around the world will be sharing their expertise promoting the truths and benefits of hypnotism. It is with great pride that these events will be held to share what is known to be a successful approach for positive and healthy personal change. You've read the headlines and success stories of hypnotism and now it's time to come out and learn more. We look forward to seeing you!

http://stcatharines.kijiji.ca/c-events-Wor...QQAdIdZ29056250

I just hope we don't all self-hypnotize all at once. Who knows what a bunch of creepy buggers would do to us in our altered state.

There is no new world order - just a fabulously rich merchant class governed by greed and sadism who are to stupid to bring about ORDER- They are over extended socially economically and militarily not to mention politically - those that wanted to rule the world have finally had their dreams realized - one small problem though - there is not one real leader of quality withing this cult of abuse - not one single intelligent and benevolent person - they have lost total control and don't have a clue on what to do with the prize that in internationalism privatized. The stupid rule and they are to proud to ask for help from truely good and bright people. Put in simple words it is as if a bunch of 14 year old spoiled boy take over a nuclear arms facilty....once they have total power - they freeze and attempt to hire brains to do their bidding - there are only so many Carl Roves in the world - and all of these pretentious twits are of inferiour abilty - but delluded to the point they actually believe they are intelligent - they are not - look around at the status quo - it is void of creative and good thought.

kimmy · January 5, 2008

Alright, strip the elusive Illuminati from it, religion and jewish conspiracies, and then start looking for the truth. What it comes down to is a group of self serving rich folk who are consolidating money/power/governments to have more control over the population with only a few voices calling the shots. Wether you think this is a good or bad thing, this is exactly what is happening across the board. Local(combination of townships and municipalities), provincial, federal, in sectors like education, business (corporations getting together), healthcare (medication is produced by only a few megapharms).

If you had stopped at "What it comes down to is a group of self serving rich folk who are consolidating money/power/governments" I would have been with you 100%.

The European Union is a prime example of this. As is the pruposed Super Nafta and the North American Union. African Union is already in place. How can Africa have a Union of that nature when most of the countries within the continent cannot get their own shit together, but they do.

You could think of the African Union as a bunch of recovering drug addicts who've banded together to try to help each other. Individually they might all have problems of their own, but collectively they can still help each other. Each member of the group might have their own troubles, but collectively they can still notice that Janice is cutting her wrists again and try to grab the knife out of her hands, or notice that Bill and Jimmy are fighting again and try to break it up before somebody gets hurt too bad.

What are international agreements like the EU "a prime example" of?

-k

kimmy · January 5, 2008

Going through this thread, the thing that amuses me to no end, as always, is the conceit on the part of the True Believers that they know the truth and people who can't see this Great Conspiracy are "sheeple" who have been brainwashed and can't think critically.

The real "sheeple" are the ones who read the stuff written by people like Alex Jones (prisonplanet) or David Hawkins and take it as undisputed truth. If you read David Hawkins' "research" and think it stands up to reason, then you're the one who's lost the ability to think critically. If you read "prisonplanet" and can't bother to spend the two minutes it generally takes to track down the source articles and spot how badly the meaning has been distorted, then you're the one who's lost the ability to think critically.

How can people who swallow this stuff whole go around calling others "sheeple"?

-k

Pindar · January 6, 2008

Going through this thread, the thing that amuses me to no end, as always, is the conceit on the part of the True Believers that they know the truth and people who can't see this Great Conspiracy are "sheeple" who have been brainwashed and can't think critically.
The real "sheeple" are the ones who read the stuff written by people like Alex Jones (prisonplanet) or David Hawkins and take it as undisputed truth. If you read David Hawkins' "research" and think it stands up to reason, then you're the one who's lost the ability to think critically. If you read "prisonplanet" and can't bother to spend the two minutes it generally takes to track down the source articles and spot how badly the meaning has been distorted, then you're the one who's lost the ability to think critically.

How can people who swallow this stuff whole go around calling others "sheeple"?

-k

well , i don't tink it works that way. I don't pick things from sites like Alex Jones alone.

If you bring it that way, well maybe you can be right.

But I have been to lectures, seen I don't know how many videos, read hundred of books about it,

and talked to people. And well, if you research this way, you'll find out that a lot Alex Jones is saying makes sense!

And for calling people sheeple, well I was one.

And you know why most are? Not even because they don't know, but because they try to put each other in line, and don't even know it that they are the 'thought' police!

But they are! it's called psychological fascism.

So instead of ridiculing and thinking you know all (I for sure don't) start researching some, and please

come back and please convince me that I am wrong!

I want to be wrong, deadly wrong.

Pindar