Socialism Is The Economic Engine Of Capitalism

[Oleg Bach]

Toronto woe Toronto, with it's program infested liberalism, the centre of Canadian socialism under the guise of human benevolence. Did you ever wonder who are the culprits who give life to socialism? Certainly it could not be the socialist, for as we know socialist have no money. In order for all movements to move and institutionalize themselves you need funding. Seeing capitalists are shrewed and cheap bunch, they hatched a plan a long time ago. A plan to enthrawl a populace that would work cheap and maintain the ancient status quo. So the capitalist made dupe the ones that embrace socialism and bound them in chains forged from their own tax dollars. A very clever plan in deed.

All immigration flows to Toronto - where those from third world contries no matter how well edcuated can get a welfare cheque with a "basic needs" allowance to eat and move about the city, a bit of money that consists of approximately 25 dollars a week...boy - If you are coming in from the pacific rim that can buy a lot of fish heads and rice to make a fine stew that you can suck on for the month. Just don't eat the whole pot in one week. Also these poor immigrants if they don't "assimulate" or are "non-compliant" to social programs and hireing practices - off they go to the state sponsored employment agents that do their best to give them exactly the kinds of jobs they don't want and that they ran from to begin with. Jobs that pay 8 dollars an hour - and once hired - the employer gives them six and coerces them with threats of deportation.

Foolish men like Jack Layton don't even know how the system works, yet he rants for more rights and privledges that consist of dumping the dollar fifty service charge at the auto-teller. There is a reason why Toronto is allowed to exist as a socialist liberal state. The reason is that it's just like a real upscale version of China. There is a difference though. The slaves have the best slave quarters in the world and are happy. It exists in this state because there is a policy to drive every human being they can to the level of a third world rice eater. Recently I took one of their "Pre-employment" courses - There was a video they showed where a woman states "I used to be a nuclear phycist and now I shovel scoops of ice cream - I am so happy" - to para phrase..even more silly was a statement in some written material that says..."In order to get ahead in the new economic system you may have to sell your house and move into a room"...very nice logic...more fish head soup please.

What you will find in Canada and most of the so-called civilzed world is a move to create great and total equality among the mass - to debase them and depress them and then to medicate them into submission and call it social benevolence...MEAN WHILE ....Some one who is not taking part in this equalization is getter richer and richer and richer and hording more and more wealth. Conservatives may not like what I just said - and liberals will hate the fact that they are dupes even more - so what...the whole system is dispicable - where I see sytemic attacks on traditional families and where extended families of our original citizens and immigrant citizens being dismantled under the guise of state help...there is only one reason that this is taking place. Family represents power - independence and extended family creates inter-dependence withing a group that the socialist resent and that the capitalist find a bit much because family keeps individuals from being as vulneralbe to their nasty and slavish agenda - welcome to Canada...If was on my way here - I would just keep on going and circle the globe back home and live with the devil I know.

[Oleg Bach]

Toronto woe Toronto, with it's program infested liberalism, the centre of Canadian socialism under the guise of human benevolence. Did you ever wonder who are the culprits who give life to socialism? Certainly it could not be the socialist, for as we know socialist have no money. In order for all movements to move and institutionalize themselves you need funding. Seeing capitalists are shrewed and cheap bunch, they hatched a plan a long time ago. A plan to enthrawl a populace that would work cheap and maintain the ancient status quo. So the capitalist made dupe the ones that embrace socialism and bound them in chains forged from their own tax dollars. A very clever plan in deed.

All immigration flows to Toronto - where those from third world contries no matter how well edcuated can get a welfare cheque with a "basic needs" allowance to eat and move about the city, a bit of money that consists of approximately 25 dollars a week...boy - If you are coming in from the pacific rim that can buy a lot of fish heads and rice to make a fine stew that you can suck on for the month. Just don't eat the whole pot in one week. Also these poor immigrants if they don't "assimulate" or are "non-compliant" to social programs and hireing practices - off they go to the state sponsored employment agents that do their best to give them exactly the kinds of jobs they don't want and that they ran from to begin with. Jobs that pay 8 dollars an hour - and once hired - the employer gives them six and coerces them with threats of deportation.

Foolish men like Jack Layton don't even know how the system works, yet he rants for more rights and privledges that consist of dumping the dollar fifty service charge at the auto-teller. There is a reason why Toronto is allowed to exist as a socialist liberal state. The reason is that it's just like a real upscale version of China. There is a difference though. The slaves have the best slave quarters in the world and are happy. It exists in this state because there is a policy to drive every human being they can to the level of a third world rice eater. Recently I took one of their "Pre-employment" courses - There was a video they showed where a woman states "I used to be a nuclear phycist and now I shovel scoops of ice cream - I am so happy" - to para phrase..even more silly was a statement in some written material that says..."In order to get ahead in the new economic system you may have to sell your house and move into a room"...very nice logic...more fish head soup please.

What you will find in Canada and most of the so-called civilzed world is a move to create great and total equality among the mass - to debase them and depress them and then to medicate them into submission and call it social benevolence...MEAN WHILE ....Some one who is not taking part in this equalization is getter richer and richer and richer and hording more and more wealth. Conservatives may not like what I just said - and liberals will hate the fact that they are dupes even more - so what...the whole system is dispicable - where I see sytemic attacks on traditional families and where extended families of our original citizens and immigrant citizens being dismantled under the guise of state help...there is only one reason that this is taking place. Family represents power - independence and extended family creates inter-dependence withing a group that the socialist resent and that the capitalist find a bit much because family keeps individuals from being as vulneralbe to their nasty and slavish agenda - welcome to Canada...If was on my way here - I would just keep on going and circle the globe back home and live with the devil I know.

FREEDOM IS FOR ALL..NOT JUST THE RICH ------ HEY WHAT DID I SAY THAT FOR? They can't quit working either - looks like we are all slaves.

[marcinmoka]

Certainly it could not be the socialist, for as we know socialist have no money

Wrong. Socialists often do have money. The only folks who have time to complain about the evils of money are the ones who have it.

Whereas I grew up dirt poor, and the question of 'money' was always a basic question of 'survival', whereas had I ignored it it would've only been to my detriment.

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As per the rest of your post, um, I don't quite get the point. Lost in translation perhaps?

Edited November 23, 2007 by marcinmoka

[Oleg Bach]

Wrong. Socialists often do have money. The only folks who have time to complain about the evils of money are the ones who have it.

Whereas I grew up dirt poor, and the question of 'money' was always a basic question of 'survival', whereas had I ignored it it would've only been to my detriment.

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As per the rest of your post, um, I don't quite get the point. Lost in translation perhaps?

Labour - capitalist need cheap labour or slave labour if they can get it. Our and the shrinking buisness elite in America grow richer by the second - due to assisting setting up the super socialist slave labour camp called China - do I need to traslate that - I have not benefited by this socialism in China - The super high Capitalist have who invested in the slave trade called socialism.

[Borg]

Quote If was on my way here - I would just keep on going and circle the globe back home and live with the devil I know. End quote

With that attitude you can go any time.

Unless of course you have raped your own country and there is nothing there but starvation and disease.

It should take you at least a few generations to turn this country into yet another shining example of your own. But fear not we will import more like you to allow the problem to grow here as well.

By then we will all be dead - someone elses problem?

Ah yes, only in Canada.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Borg

[Oleg Bach]

Quote If was on my way here - I would just keep on going and circle the globe back home and live with the devil I know. End quote

With that attitude you can go any time.

Unless of course you have raped your own country and there is nothing there but starvation and disease.

It should take you at least a few generations to turn this country into yet another shining example of your own. But fear not we will import more like you to allow the problem to grow here as well.

By then we will all be dead - someone elses problem?

Ah yes, only in Canada.

Thanks for the chuckle.

Borg

Come on Borg - you watch to many Star Trek re-runs...I was born in Enland..left less than a year old - my parents endured the tail end of the Russian revolution and WW2 - my predesseors did not rape the nation - my mother got raped by Nazis - My father betrayed commies and Nazi to come here - I thank the Queen of opening the door to England and to Canada - but I do not thank those that left the door open to long..thanks for the almost chuckle..other than a problem with perception and not seeing any fault in a system that has serverd YOU well I suppose you are happy as a piglette drowning in a mixture of poop and mothers milk...you spoiled brat..000000ps hope the mods don't consider that "inflamatory"..

.most people who say to me - you can leave anytime - are usually dull henchman types who suggest staying in the stinky hot kitichen with the melting boiling down immigrants for stew...or leaving (going out side into 50 below weather out side in the nude) Nope _ I am saying and an old Trotskyite lawyer said "why should you go" tell them to go" - Borg - why don't YOU leave the country...sooooh. I have more right here than you - plus I have more to contribute - seems all you do is stand their and be white, as the drivel snow.

[August1991]

As per the rest of your post, um, I don't quite get the point. Lost in translation perhaps?

I took the first paragraph of the OP:

Toronto woe Toronto, with it's program infested liberalism, the centre of Canadian socialism under the guise of human benevolence. Did you ever wonder who are the culprits who give life to socialism? Certainly it could not be the socialist, for as we know socialist have no money. In order for all movements to move and institutionalize themselves you need funding. Seeing capitalists are shrewed and cheap bunch, they hatched a plan a long time ago. A plan to enthrawl a populace that would work cheap and maintain the ancient status quo. So the capitalist made dupe the ones that embrace socialism and bound them in chains forged from their own tax dollars. A very clever plan in deed.

And then I used Google's translation to French and back to English. This is what I got:

Toronto misfortune Toronto, with its program infested liberalism, the Canadian socialism, in the guise of human kindness. Wondering who the culprits are giving life to socialism? Certainly, it could not be socialism, we know Socialists have no money. For all movements of movement and you need to institutionalize their funding. Seeing capitalists are shrewed and cheap bunch, they hatched a plan long ago. A plan to enthrawl a population that would work cheap and to maintain the status quo antique. Thus, the capitalist has done twice those who espouse socialism and linked together by chains forged from their own taxes. A very clever plan of action.

In some ways, Google's translation of a translation is more comprehensible than the original. Oleg, can you organize your thoughts before you put finger to keyboard? Or could you use Google's translation?

[Oleg Bach]

I took the first paragraph of the OP:

And then I used Google's translation to French and back to English. This is what I got:

In some ways, Google's translation of a translation is more comprehensible than the original. Oleg, can you organize your thoughts before you put finger to keyboard? Or could you use Google's translation?

Actually I was thinking that before I started typing - and I do type quick-- of actually really preparing my thoughts and being conherant - but damn - it may make sense and someone may offer me a job...run that through your meat grinder of modernity...Maybe you just don't have that real cool cryptic mind set and maybe I am not from this planet? But as per usual - I joke..make a funny..do me a sweet favour my good man..translate and orgainze my thoughts for me--- I will pay you the going rate for wanna be editors..what's that - 8 bucks an hour?

[Borg]

Come on Borg - you watch to many Star Trek re-runs...I was born in Enland..left less than a year old - my parents endured the tail end of the Russian revolution and WW2 - my predesseors did not rape the nation - my mother got raped by Nazis - My father betrayed commies and Nazi to come here - I thank the Queen of opening the door to England and to Canada - but I do not thank those that left the door open to long..thanks for the almost chuckle..other than a problem with perception and not seeing any fault in a system that has serverd YOU well I suppose you are happy as a piglette drowning in a mixture of poop and mothers milk...you spoiled brat..000000ps hope the mods don't consider that "inflamatory"..

.most people who say to me - you can leave anytime - are usually dull henchman types who suggest staying in the stinky hot kitichen with the melting boiling down immigrants for stew...or leaving (going out side into 50 below weather out side in the nude) Nope _ I am saying and an old Trotskyite lawyer said "why should you go" tell them to go" - Borg - why don't YOU leave the country...sooooh. I have more right here than you - plus I have more to contribute - seems all you do is stand their and be white, as the drivel snow.

Do not worry - the mods will not censor you - because you have not inflamed anyone.

Oh, by the way - I am not a trekkie.

As others who laugh at my name know - it is my nick name - the first 4 letters of my full name. Traditional shortening of a name by guys and gals that have played sports and hunted with me.

I have left the country - many times - as ordered by the government.

Perhaps I am a spoiled brat - but certainly not to many that I have either helped or hindered around the world.

As for fault with the system - if you even read a few of my posts - I have seen and chatted about them.

Once again - thanks for the chuckle.

Too funny overall.

Borg

[Oleg Bach]

Do not worry - the mods will not censor you - because you have not inflamed anyone.

Oh, by the way - I am not a trekkie.

As others who laugh at my name know - it is my nick name - the first 4 letters of my full name. Traditional shortening of a name by guys and gals that have played sports and hunted with me.

I have left the country - many times - as ordered by the government.

Perhaps I am a spoiled brat - but certainly not to many that I have either helped or hindered around the world.

As for fault with the system - if you even read a few of my posts - I have seen and chatted about them.

Once again - thanks for the chuckle.

Too funny overall.

Borg

New a Barb that they called Babs - and a poodle called Poo Poo..you sound like you had some fun - and are capable of entertaining me if I am real nice to you...certainly you being fully privatize would make it very difficult to inflame you let alone set you on fire with rage - simply don't know enough about you to do a good job provoking you for sport. So you are helpful and a hinderance. Means you are an idealog of somekind. Most men of spirit are helpful - those of a mixed blessing can are usally double sided and are a combination of help and hinderance.

.as you have explained your self to be. I may get to enjoy you eventually - and may be kind and give you lessons in the joys of being reckless - you seem overly contained and smug. So I suppose I will have to do some reading..but you had better be an interesting character - not many I give my full attention. Not that I am lazy - just old enough to have heard every story twice and old enough to have repeated myself constantly - but still young enough to know when I am repeating my self.....

So just a "chuckle" - what's it take to get a full bodied roar of laughter out of you little man?

[Higgly]

Who let the dogs out?

[Oleg Bach]

Who let the dogs out?

WHOO WHOO? Who ever let them out better not bring them back in till they are empty.

[Guest coot]

Is there a coherent discussion in here somewhere? If so, there are lots of socialist premises appropriated by capitalism for their efficiency. From roads and infrastructure and utilities to corporate welfare: sometimes public ownership and investment has proven to be an effective means of further wealth generation.

That's why the pure ideologues usually go no farther than ranting anonymously from their computers about how taxation enslaves us, because no one really takes them seriously.