Euro star

[margrace]

I agree with that too. I'm no stranger to that area.

It should be done in a lot of places. It costs to build highways, widen them, maintain them. We either spend with vision now or later when it may be harder to come by.

We had a pretty good stretch of highway but the men in power decided we needed an Autobahm, not only having areas such as overpasses that take up acres of land but not allowing local towns access for Fire and police in a proper manners. They also bought out all homes and business' accesing the highway. At 10 million a mile I think we should have improved out railroad

[M.Dancer]

The eurostar goes from Parris to London in a little under two and one half hours, it averages around 300k's per hour. Canada dearly needs more trains like this.....

I am a big believer in high speed rail. We alraedy have high speed trains, that iisn't the issue, what we lack are tracks. VIA shares the rails with CN, etc....and cargo comes first and what's more, the lines are designed for low speed freight trains....not the bombardiers that can fly at 180kph

[guyser]

We had a pretty good stretch of highway but the men in power decided we needed an Autobahm, not only having areas such as overpasses that take up acres of land but not allowing local towns access for Fire and police in a proper manners. They also bought out all homes and business' accesing the highway. At 10 million a mile I think we should have improved out railroad

I suspect I know which highway you mean.

I am sorry that the attempt to stop the carnage on that highway is not in your interests.

[runningdog]

Certainly more energy efficient systems are a good thing but a thing isn't efficient if you can't fill it up. There aren't many places in Canada that have the population density which would make something like the Eurostar viable. 300 kph won't cut it in a country with Canada's distances when the average airliner travels over 2 1/2 times that fast. One of air travels greatest advantages is its flexibility, it can change routes and put the proper equipment on those routes at the drop of a hat because there is no infrastructure such as rail lines or roads which have to be built before it is possible. What happened yesterday was a computer reservation system going down. No reason that couldn't happen to a rail system as easily as to an airline.

As much as I'd love to see a Eurostar (I've been from Ldn-Paris many times) here in Canada, I have to agree with Wilber on this on.

[Wilber]

As much as I'd love to see a Eurostar (I've been from Ldn-Paris many times) here in Canada, I have to agree with Wilber on this on.

I'd love to see some good trains but I just don't see many places in Canada that would make them viable in the foreseeable future.

Back in the late eighties Lufthansa had a train that ran down the Rhine between the terminals at Düsseldorf and Frankfurt airports. Maybe they still do. I traveled the route 4 times one summer taking the train twice and flying twice. The train made two stops en route, one at Cologne and another at Koblenz. Quiet, comfortable, scenic, excellent food, wine and service included. Much more pleasant than flying and not that much slower when you consider time waisted in the terminals. It was also only about 15 DM ($10) cheaper than going by air.

[White Doors]

I am a big believer in high speed rail. We alraedy have high speed trains, that iisn't the issue, what we lack are tracks. VIA shares the rails with CN, etc....and cargo comes first and what's more, the lines are designed for low speed freight trains....not the bombardiers that can fly at 180kph

It would take alot of money but a highspeed link along side the cargo lines could make sense in a Montreal,. Ottawa, Toronto triangle. Could be a good election campaign issue IMO.

The most money would be building all of the overpasses needed. certainly worth investigating at the very least.

[margrace]

Yes overpasses area what is needed first, another argument that didn't surface on here is the weather, the cold weather, It could affect the trains as well.

[geoffrey]

Be prepared to have some stops above Huntsville. Now just take a guestamate and tell Wilber how much the four laning of that highway cost when you get back to Calgary. Besides we need traffic off the roads and not an autobahn for a few, but that is the main highway west. Remeber when you bypas Trout Creek that the six mile bypass cost 60 Million dollars. At Burks falls don't miss the huge cuts in the rock to accomadate a road that goes no where.

That highway clearly needs to be 4 lane. Without a doubt. The traffic moves very well and very fast now, but it's safe. The last time I drove that a few years back, it was scary and dangerous. There is enough traffic there to justify 4 lanes. And it looks like it will be 4 lanes all the way from Toronto to North Bay very soon.

We had a pretty good stretch of highway but the men in power decided we needed an Autobahm, not only having areas such as overpasses that take up acres of land but not allowing local towns access for Fire and police in a proper manners. They also bought out all homes and business' accesing the highway. At 10 million a mile I think we should have improved out railroad

I find it hard to believe many would take the railroad. You need to drive up North, you can't just walk around after taking the train. Add that hassle and cost to the experience and no one would use it.

Anyways, I love Northern Ontario, I wish it could have been on better circumstances and a longer stay, but with that road improved, I'm much more likely to make the trip again in the near future.