jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Didn't look much like sarcasm, looked like you ment it. I was mocking his statement. It was as over the top as Duceppe's. The accusations of supporting pedophiles from both sides is ridiculous. Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 I was mocking his statement. It was as over the top as Duceppe's. The accusations of supporting pedophiles from both sides is ridiculous. And yet it takes me calling you out on it to clarify it. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 And yet it takes me calling you out on it to clarify it. I'm sorry if you can't get it. Quote
capricorn Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Mr. Ignatieff went after Prime Minister Stephen Harper with his rhetorical guns blazing in a stump-style speech at a Stampede breakfast in Calgary.He said the ads, which blast the Bloc for voting against a law that would impose minimum sentences in child trafficking cases, further divide the country. “I'm in politics to defeat the Bloc Québécois with real arguments rather than slurs and vicious ad hominem personal attacks,” Mr. Ignatieff told a cheering crowd of several hundred Liberal supporters. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1206789/ Mr. Ignatieff draws a parallel between the Tory ad which draws attention to the Bloc's opposition to minimum sentencing and national unity. I know that I am not Ignatieff's intellectual equal. Yet, I have difficulty making the link between the two. How could Ignatieff be so vocal in defending a party intent on breaking up the country and in the same breath raise the unity card? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Yet, I have difficulty making the link between the two. How could Ignatieff be so vocal in defending a party intent on breaking up the country and in the same breath raise the unity card? You don't think that Harper's attacks don't polarize? Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 You don't think that Harper's attacks don't polarize? You don't think liberal attacks polarize? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 You don't think liberal attacks polarize? What Liberal attacks are you referring to, something specific to Ignatieff or Dion? Quote
capricorn Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 You don't think that Harper's attacks don't polarize? It is Ignatieff that is polarized. Standing up for a separatist party while at the same time claiming that attacking said separatist party threatens unity. The two are irreconcilable positions. Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 What Liberal attacks are you referring to, something specific to Ignatieff or Dion? http://ca.yhs.search.yahoo.com/avg/search?...liberal+attacks Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 http://ca.yhs.search.yahoo.com/avg/search?...liberal+attacks Once again: Dion or Ignatieff? I am looking at the Paul Martin years here. Quote
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) It is Ignatieff that is polarized. Standing up for a separatist party while at the same time claiming that attacking said separatist party threatens unity. The two are irreconcilable positions. Absolute BS. So you think Harper is right to insinuate that BQ and BQ supporters are soft on pedophiles? Edited July 5, 2009 by jdobbin Quote
jbg Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politi...article1204745/A pervert in a plaid shirt is luring a child in a park, but the Bloc Québécois will not do anything to stop him, the Conservative Party says in a new round of attack ads.The message, which was sent at taxpayers' expense in every single Bloc riding, features a blurry picture of a small boy leaving a park with an older man. The two are walking hand-in-hand, and a nearby kiddy swing is empty. “Your Bloc MP has voted against the protection of children,” the tag line states. Looks like the Tories are up to their old tricks. Let's see how it affects them in the polls in Quebec. Then why is the Bloc bottling up the legislation. Is the ad not true? Crickets. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Is it Tim Powers' agency that's behind all these genius ads? I mean how many dumb campaigns can you have in a row? Ask Warren Kinsella. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
jbg Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 The fact that you're defending a national seperatist party is more then a little disappointing.Typical minority government politics. Supporting traitors is even OK. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link).
capricorn Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Absolute BS. I wouldn't expect any other reaction from you. So you think Harper is right to insinuate that BQ and BQ supporters are soft on pedophiles? Why are you dragging Bloc supporters into this? You're the only that has ever suggested anywhere that the ad attacked the position of Bloc supporters on minimum sentencing. You know that's not true. Why do you do that? Quote "We always want the best man to win an election. Unfortunately, he never runs." Will Rogers
CAMP Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Typical minority government politics. Supporting traitors is even OK. Right on Jbg, one of the reasons I joined the Central Party of Canada is the "Unfailing loyalty to the sovereignty of a united Canada, and its Constitution in a dynamic democracy set in the framework that represents Canadian citizens." (This taken from the policy page on it's website) This means no aligning with Block. Quote www.centralparty.ca (The Central Party of Canada) real democracy in action!
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 I wouldn't expect any other reaction from you. Nor you, it would seem. Why are you dragging Bloc supporters into this? You're the only that has ever suggested anywhere that the ad attacked the position of Bloc supporters on minimum sentencing. You know that's not true. Why do you do that? I say it because when Harper attacked the BQ by calling them separatist in English and sovereignists in French, BQ supporters took it personally. They are likely to take this personally as well. Or have the poll numbers not been an indication of that? Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Once again: Dion or Ignatieff? I am looking at the Paul Martin years here. So that wasn't liberal party attacking and creating polarization in the country? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 So that wasn't liberal party attacking and creating polarization in the country? And Paul Martin was defeated. Are you saying that a strategy that ultimately left a party in defeat is going to work for the Conservatives? Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 And Paul Martin was defeated.Are you saying that a strategy that ultimately left a party in defeat is going to work for the Conservatives? If that straetgy doesn't work why do we see the liberals hiring back those same strategists that used them? Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 If that straetgy doesn't work why do we see the liberals hiring back those same strategists that used them? Maybe because they use different strategies now. Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Maybe because they use different strategies now. I wouldn't say that especially by looking some of their blogs. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 I wouldn't say that especially by looking some of their blogs. So you think their strategy was ultimately successful and that if the Liberals want to bear the Tories they should continue to go ahead with those type of ads? Make up your mind. Quote
Alta4ever Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 So you think their strategy was ultimately successful and that if the Liberals want to bear the Tories they should continue to go ahead with those type of ads?Make up your mind. Those type of ads have been in canadian politics from the very start, and seem to be sour because for once it is the liberal party that is on the receiving end. Turn about is fair play dobbin, the only dofference is this time, they are based on fact unlike those released by the liberal party like the troops in the streets. Quote "What about the legitimacy of the democratic process, yeah, what about it?" Jack Layton and his coup against the people of Canada “The nine most terrifying words in the English language are, ‘I’m from the government and I’m here to help.’” President Ronald Reagan
jdobbin Posted July 5, 2009 Report Posted July 5, 2009 Those type of ads have been in canadian politics from the very start, and seem to be sour because for once it is the liberal party that is on the receiving end. Turn about is fair play dobbin, the only dofference is this time, they are based on fact unlike those released by the liberal party like the troops in the streets. So then you admit that the Tory ad is accusing the BQ of being soft on pedophiles. And you expect this to be a big winner? Quote
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