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5 minutes ago, hot enough said:
You might not have a full grasp of the extent of this in Canada and the USA right now, in 2017. I was shocked by the numbers for the USA. I recently posted an article on this.
I have a full grasp and knowledge that you always reveal yourselves.
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The passage of this Bill would be a wonderful vehicle to hurry through some unpopular legislation... somehting like ranked ballots as electoral reform....hmmmmm?
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57 minutes ago, Argus said:
This expands on that idea. Trudeau - and I said this before he got elected - showed all the signs of a man who was uninterested in other people's opinions if they disagreed with his. He does not like disagreement or dissent. Not on any issue he considers to be important, anyway.
I think you give him too much credit. I'm not convinced he has opinions on many things. His handlers do, of course, and he has become adept at parroting those memes and talking points when instructed. It is his profession really- he is a professional dramatist and staying in character and costume is well within his skill set. I doubt he has any interest in mundane shit like the economy. He really, truly is cut from the same cloth as his father.
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3 hours ago, eyeball said:
JT is a Nazi too.
No, he is much more like Neville Chamberlain than he is like Herr Shicklgruber
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On 3/26/2017 at 6:49 PM, taxme said:
Indeed, this is what the elite zionists, who control our media and politicians by the politically correct brainwashing strings, are being allowed to get away with. Causing division to keep the people fighting against one another while they sit back and laugh, and continue with what they have been getting away with for decades. Screwing the Canadian taxpaying public out of money with their liberal multicultural nonsense. It would appear as though Canadians are being set up for one big confrontation between Christians and Islam down the Canadian road one day. At least this is what my gut feeling is trying to tell me. Am I wrong on this? Hey, let me know.
Yes you are wrong. Actually, I became filled with lowgrade loathing for you when I saw this bit of unrestrained bigotry from you
"this is what the elite zionists, who control our media and politicians by the politically correct brainwashing strings"
Calendar note: I know it is hard to calculate sometimes, but this is Canada in 2017, not Germany in 1937. Jewbaiting is verboten. -
On 3/27/2017 at 2:20 PM, Altai said:
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Deniz Yucel, I think you Googled it right now. This person has relations with PKK terror organization and he openly make terror organization propaganda. What would happen if you would have ties with ISIS members and you would make ISIS propaganda in Canada ?
Deniz Yucel stayed with a woman PKK member in an hotel room in year 2015, he had many phone calls with different PKK terrorists, he had relations with one of the PKK leader's daughter and communicated with her as encrypted. He had talks with terror organization members on internet and met with them in a city in Eastern Turkiye. His phone gave signal from Iraq in a region controlled by the terror organization. So he is another agent with "journalist" ID card given by Western countries or Western puppets.
I really dont want to put you in ignore you but you are still pushing your luck. So okay lets give me another name that being prisoned for "speaking" ? I think you can find even a single person from these 35.000 innocent people ?
Yes, I'm sure all those couple hundred journalist, and 30000 others, were all enemies of the state.
No point in having trials, right?
They are all guilty, and your beloved strongman Erdogan should simply execute all of them. Are we agreed?
Ataturk would vomit if he read what you write.
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Does this guy have any access to therapy?
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Just now, hot enough said:
Yes, you most assuredly are a conspiracist, as are all the folks discussing various conspiracies with you. When you discuss the US official story you are also a conspiracy theorist, because that is not only a theory, it is a completely unproven theory, it has been shown to be a Golconda of lies.
You forgot to blame The Joos.
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7 minutes ago, dialamah said:
If the survey taken that says Chong and O'Leary are 1 & 2 among all Canadians, that suggests to me that any other candidate would be the loser in 2019. If the survey I linked is accurate, it shows that more than half of Canadians think climate change is important and Chong does address that - does any other Candidate? If not, then right there you've lost a significant portion of the voting public.
If Chong wins, ti will be because he is the compromise guy, the least offensive choice within the party. He is also Mr Bland, and has no chance whatsoever of beating Trudeau. Like Dion before him, he is everybodys second choice and that will be reflected in a general election too.
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Deniz Yucel. Journalist. Feb 2017,carted of to jail to join 86 other Turkish journalists, some of whom have been detained for years for speaking their minds. Erdogan issued arrest warrants for about 80 more late last year, to go along with the 35,000 imprisoned already for speaking.
Time for you to explain why you think this Fascist swine from the Middle Ages is the right man to lead Turkey?
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Snippy? It is a recitation of fact. Over the last half century or so, we have had a PM that is a white guy from Quebec about 75% of the time. For 20% of the balance, we had a white guy from Toronto. . The other 5% were the Temporary Foreign Workers:: Campbell, Clark and Turner.
Quebec has 20% of the population and virtual control of central government. It makes sovereignty sentiments hard to understand.!
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And lets just get it out there: Chong is the Tory equivalent of Stephane Dion. Mild, inoffensive, utterly ineffective, hopeless.
That blandness just might be what the Cons compromise on of course. But only of they choose to surrender 2019, right now.
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How can anybody bu a white man from Quebec win an election as PM?
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4 minutes ago, Goddess said:
I stand corrected.
This whole thread is premised on the belief that the Quran is, for some reason, entitled to rights like a human being and that if it is "attacked", then heads should roll - literally. If that belief is wrong, this whole thread is pointless.
To be fair, Christianity has gone through long periods where apostasy of any sort was met with a quick death, but only if you were lucky. It was a slightly different course though, in the matter of the Holy book. For centuries ordinary people were not allowed to own a Bible, which was kind of redundant since clergy were often the only people trained to read,. And of course access to the Bible for many centuries was further controlled by only being avail;able in Latin- a language know only to clergy and few of the very wealthy.. It is all about control, and the Vhristian VChurch- really the Catholic Church- lost control in the Reformation and have struggled since. There are many brands of Islam, but they all read the same book, in ASrabic, and quite a few will cheerfully kill you for disputing a word in it.
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1 minute ago, Altai said:
This is a lie, be honest. You claim that you would like Turkiye to be controlled by a good government. This is lie. Westerners does not like a Muslim country to be controlled by a good government. They wants and be happy with it when Muslim countries ruled by bad governments. Because Westerners does not like a Muslim country to be developed. If Turkish govt was really a bad govt, all the Western countries would support them. Western countries also does not want each other to be developed more from themselves. USA does not want any other Western countries to be more strong, Britain does not want USA to be more strong, Germany does not like USA nor US nor France. Italy hates all of them. Other small puppet Western countries lives like parasite near these some strong Western countries.
So please stop telling "we dont like Turkish govt because they are making Muslim Turkiye is a bad country". you are lying I am trying to recall more nonsense and untruths per sentence by anybody, ever, in this forum I;m coming up short..
I would like to see Turkey not ruled by a fascist prick intent on moving his society back into the Stone Age, while simultaneously imprisoning every person who does not agree with him. I doubt it is possible to stop him from either act, certainly not when the likes of you applaud his every miserable, hateful oppressive action.
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Just now, bcsapper said:
I see your point, but I think even they would have been surprised at the result.
I'm not a conspiracist, but all the people involved and all the money for 9/11 came from Saudi Arabia. SA is a totalitarian state, and it boggles the mind to think that a project of this scope happened without some state knowledge-at minimum. They might have been surprised at the near-total success of 9/11, since only Flight 93 did not complete its mission.
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8 minutes ago, Goddess said:
And if the Quran was attacked....So what?
Human beings have rights and are entitled to respect.
Since when do we extend that right to books, ideas or beliefs?
I think you meant to say The Holy Quran.
Failing to show the proper respect will get you dead fast in quite a few places. This is not one of them.
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29 minutes ago, bcsapper said:
Well, they did have the bombing in the same location a few years earlier, and there was the Oklahoma bombing too. I think 9/11 came as a surprise to everyone.
I don't think it was a big surprise for the Saudis.
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23 hours ago, Altai said:
Then why are you getting such mad at Turkiye. So if we are getting worse with each passing day, you should be happy for that. An Islamic country is destroying itself and you should support Erdo.
We have a strong economy and Western countries are trying their best to stop it this is why they hate Erdogan.
Mad at Turkey? Not me, I am just correcting your erronious perceptions of the economy.
I don't like Erdogan because he is moving Turkey quickly into an authoritarian state with himself as the President for Life. As we have sadly seen in many countries many times, that is an inevitable formula for future domestic violence. Why do you hate Turkey, that you'd wish for that to happen?
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3 minutes ago, Ash74 said:
I have enough logic to know that dropping the bomb saved allied lives
It also saved millions of Japanese lives, civilian lives. Though it could be argued that there were no Japanese civilians.
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You are apparently unaware that the Turkish economy is struggling and contracting. It is going to get worse, as the shortsighted strongman Erdogan continues to alienate his prime customer base.
Duh.
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2 minutes ago, hot enough said:
Nothing says "kind and benevolent US/UK" like murdering half a million Iraqi children and another half a million Iraqi adults in the 1990s. And then a further million or so in the illegal invasion of 2003, based completely on lies.
They are pikers compared to the war fought on the same ground in the 80s between Iraq and Iran, probably 2 million killed in a war that was fought for religious ideology, ego and greed. A few years later, Uncle Saddam did it again in Kuwait. Did you applaud both?
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4 minutes ago, hot enough said:
It is very simple actually. How do you think that the vast majority of US citizens, and most westerners who are equally brainwashed, think that the USA is a kind, benevolent peace loving country when it is totally the opposite. It's a nation born of terrorism and genocide, it has been at war for some 93% of its years as a "nation".
Why do you think that Americans or Westerners believe anything of the sort? Why wuld anybody spoend one nickel on guns or armies or cops if they though the world was a gentle, kind place. You've been watching too much Elmo on PBS.
As compared to the Muslim world, which has been killing each other and infidels for every day of its existence for about 1300 years. The US is achievers, but far, far from that sort of record.
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The main purpose of the EU is purported to be trade, but let us not forget the other one, which is less talked about.
The Euros spent many, many centuries klilling each other for fun, culminating in a giant Euro war in WWI, then unbelievably escalating into the global reach of WWII. The second world war was ,more or less unthinkable in 1919, within 20 years it set the world afire. The EU is itself the ultimate treaty, instead of exchanging harsh words and settling old debts, the new apporach is to integrate economies so thoroughly it gets much harder to start shooting, the cost overall is prohibitive. In the last 67 years there have been some big dustups in Europe: the Balkans(inevitable). German integration, collapse of the Soviet Union and changes to all those former Commie countries..... But they have not had a big shooting war amongst themselves. Has there EVER been a period that long in Europes history as relatively calm as this one?
Kudos to the big brains in Brussels for getting this far.
Another USA warning to NATO members.....
in Federal Politics in Canada
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There is nothing to worry about if Russia simply takes the Canadian land up there. Canada will get Foreign Minister Freeland to draft a strongly worded memo to Russia asking nicely if they would stop. If they refuse, she will cry. Then they'll have to go home.