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20 hours ago, Goddess said:
I stated these were conversations people in Fort Mac were having, talking about why the fire went so fast.
Do you have links for all of your verbal conversations and experiences? You'll have to show me how to do that. Must be some amazing technology.
I have also lived in FM, and have worked on major fires though not that one. What caused the fire to be out of control so quickly was the weather and the wind. You can bomb the area with retardant and water to your utmost ability and make pretty much no difference. What was saved inside FM was due to intense work in small areas, and luck. If the fire was established in some streets they did not attempt to do anythig but stop the spread. Because that is all there is to do. The main fire was not influenced by anything but wind changes and rain, which eventually slowed and stopped it.
In practical terms, it is pretty much impossible to construct firebreaks that would have stopped a fire of this magnitude. The fire did not gain velocity by burning the town, it was full bore on trees long before it got there and was then creating its own weather.
What would help would be having a situation in towns that limits the fuel. That means no trees, grass or shrubs anywhere near dwellings inside town . That means metal roofs on all dwellings(which implies no buildings over 5 stories since high buildings have tar and gravel roofs or membranes). No wood /vinyl at all on the exterior of buildings, and no wood or plastic fences.
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This final was pretty much a ratings and PR disaster for the league.
The games were pretty meh.
Kessel has absolutely thrived in the right situation, used the right way.
Same for Justin Schultz, who was relied on for far too much in Edmonton.
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4 hours ago, Goddess said:
I heard this on the news today, too. It was similar with the Fort Mac fire - for years, fire safety people were recommending fire-breaks around the town, but Greenpeace stepped in and made a stink about cutting down any trees, so very few fire-breaks. It'sa miracle that there were no deaths.
This fire - equally horrific.
Greenpeace has nothing to do with it. It would have made no difference at all, unless the fire breaks meant stripping every piece for vegetation or flammable material for perhaps 5 km or so.
The FM fire jumped a river valley that is about 2km wide easily.
Have you ever witnessed a major fire? It is pretty shocking how little human efforts can do to influence the fire, much less control it.
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On 6/10/2017 at 3:26 PM, Argus said:
And here's where you and I differ. I think we should be screening those people if they want to come to Canada, too. I don't give any society a break when it comes to its members wanting to come here. I want them all screened if they come from societies were hate and violent intolerance, inspired by whatever, is prevalent.
I'm refuting the notion that Muslims or Christians deal with homosexuality differently. They do not.
And that is the second time you've said 'you people' or 'those people'. That kind of talk is straight out of Klan literature, did you realize that or just do not care?
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On 6/10/2017 at 3:24 PM, Argus said:
You people on the left insist on reading your own opinions into my words rather than reading the words. Given you know nothing about me you should stop trying to analyze the secret meaning of my words and just take them at face value.
You are particularly oblivious if you think I'm 'you people on the left'.
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My Bond ranking, best to worst:
Craig
Connery
Moore
Brosnan
Dalton
Lazenby
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1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said:
It always amuses me when Islam's defenders use a negative to defend a negative.
I'm an atheist.
I'm not defending Islam, I'm pointing out that hatred and intolerance are practiced often and right now by Christians too. The bigots always reveal themselves.
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2 minutes ago, Argus said:
Did I say that? Is English a second or third language to you? I I think I made it pretty clear by using the word "if" in a conditional sentence, that I was not referring to all.
Your inference is crystal clear, don't diminish yourself or your argument by changing it now.
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On 6/9/2017 at 10:27 AM, DogOnPorch said:
Islam has a way to deal with homosexuality....and it ain't pray that gay away.
Being queer in Uganda will get you dead pretty quick. Uganda is 84% Christian. Sorry if that deflects your world view just a tiny bit.
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6 hours ago, Argus said:
What does a devout Muslim believe? That's the heart of the discussion. If he believes in implementing Sharia, in the inferiority of women, in the sanctity of Islam's prophet and message to the point he believes violence is justified, then yes, he's dangerous, whether he commits violence himself or not.
You will not find Quakers or Jains justifying violence. You will have no difficulty finding Muslims doing so.
Because all Muslims are the same, right? They must be to support your belief system.
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On 6/7/2017 at 11:32 AM, GostHacked said:
ISIS claimed the attack. The only nation ISIS has not attacked in the M.E is Saudi Arabia.
No surprise. The (Sunni) Saudis have a sweetheart deal with the Saudi based nutbars that export the extremist (Sunni)wahabbi sect brand of fundamentalist extremist Islam around the world. The Wahabbis send billions to establish run religious schools everywhere. The only book in their schools is the Koran, they learn that chapter and verse, and also learn their duty to strap on that hefty vest and go find those 72 virgins.
The Saudi Royal family allows then to operate/export from the Kingdom, in return the Imams are careful to keep a tight lid on the death game inside Saudi Arabia.
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On 6/8/2017 at 5:11 PM, DogOnPorch said:
None Shall Pass!
Get back here, I'm not done with you yet!
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On 6/8/2017 at 1:40 PM, Argus said:
There are levels, you know. And as someone in one of those cites I posted pointed out, a fundamentalist Quaker or a fundamentalist Jain is not very dangerous compared to a fundamentalist Muslim.
I see. All devout Muslims are dangerous. All devout Christians are not.
I'll have to write that down. Oh look I just did.
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Get better than what? Mediocrity? .500 record? I don't think so, they don't have the roster for that, because Shapiro and Atkins failed miserably in their jobs. And no, injuries are not an excuse, they sucked early when they had everybody. Money isn't an excuse, they are rolling in dough and have a huge fan base.
And they get older and slower every day.
I feel sorry for Carrera, he must be the worst left fielder in MLB. Every ball hit there is an adventure.
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4 minutes ago, Argus said:
Not many in Canada. Oh there's any number of 'homophobes' here, but being homophobic in Canada generally means telling queer jokes and saying unpleasant things about them when they're not around. It doesn't mean killing them unless you're already a violent, social retrograde, and probably drunk at that.
Why would you support importing stupid people when we already have an oversupply? In fact, I'd be pleased to include an IQ test as part of the requirements to immigrate here. No stupid people allowed! Just like no religious fanatics allowed!
Aren't all religious people delusional fanatics to some degree?
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Back on topic....
I am not sure why so many people are so threatened by women wearing burkas or niqabs or clothing that hides their head or body..
Should I feel threatened by the Hutterite women I see often here? They are a secretive, closed Christian sect that live in rural colonies and have little to do with other Canadians . They intermarry with other Hutterities. Their faces are stern and they don't approve of others unlike them. They have little to do with anybody but other Hutterites. They spend a lot of time in prayer and Bible study. The women wear head coverings, cover all their skin, and wear voluminous skirts that could hide a hundred kilos of high explosives, easily. Just how afraid should I be?
There are no degrees of equailty. .
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On 6/6/2017 at 1:47 PM, Argus said:
Things have changed in just the last few years, actually. You should read some of what professor Johnathan hadt has to say or see his you tube videos.
Basically, he says the issue is the kids who have been entering university and college over the last few years have been the first of a new breed, those raised since the mentality set in among parents that says children should never be allowed outside alone, and should always be carefully supervised and guarded by parents, teachers, coaches, or some other responsible adult. These kids never learned how to cope with disagreements among themselves because adults were always there to step in. They are also the first to be run through a school system dedicated to imparting progressive social views on their minds. They've embraced those views like a religion, are outraged whenever anyone contradicts their beliefs, and immediate look for an 'adult' in this case the university, to stop those who are 'hurting them' with words.
Small towns out west are quite a bit different in their atmosphere than cities, even ones out west, never mind those in central Canada.
That simply is not true of all small towns in the West. There are plenty of artsy, progessive places. Lets start with Nelson, Whitehorse and Cumberland for starters, there are dozens more. Actuially, include all of the Kootenays and much of Vancouver Island as being generally left of Mao much of the time.
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15 hours ago, August1991 said:
Overthere, if you're socially liberal, you have no kids.
First: Pay your way. IOW, save about 40%, offshore, solely for your pension while working. (Given that you won't work until you're 25, you'll retire at 60, and you'll die at 80.)
Second: Hope/pray the future has people who respect you in your old age.
Third: Be socially conservative and have kids, like Elton John.
I have two, and they are better citizens than me. Adjust your assumptions.
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23 hours ago, betsy said:
I'm not sorry. You should be.
You brought up Air India! You inspired Overthere to dig up the Inquisition!
.....and what's wado ryu? Isn't that Karate?
Would you prefer The Troubles in Northern Ireland? You know, where Christians shot/bombed/kneecapped their friends and neighbours for being Sunnis, oops I mean the wrong kind of Christians? Which side of that did Jesus approve of, I have forgotten.
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2 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:
Islam kills people.
Religion is death.
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7 minutes ago, Argus said:
And the slaughter of hundreds of millions of Hindus made the rape of Americas look like a little light roughousing.
The Crusades were a response to Muslim aggression, to Muslim attacks on Christian territories. Do you even know enough history to understand that Turkey, Egypt, Israel and Syria used to be Christian lands?
LOL. You have got to be kidding.
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9 minutes ago, Goddess said:
I don't know. You're the one proposing it as justification for Islamic terrorism in this day and age. You tell me.
I'm not proposing anything of the sort. I'm trying to get Betsy to acknowledge reality in 2017.
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You missed the point entirely on why Stelmach, Redford, Prentice and now Notley got elected, and why Wildrose won't be. None of those Premiers, or the ultimate failure of Wildrose, are even remotely close to being an anomaly.
The extremist socially conservative boat anchors in Wildrose will have to stay in Widlrose if they can keep the name, or form yet another party. They won't be welcome, they cannot be welcome, anywhere else. Wonder why? When you know what I mean in the first sentence of this post, you'll know why.
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1 minute ago, Goddess said:
This always seems to me the equivalent of children who excuse bad conduct by saying, "Well So-and-So did the same thing in 1478!!"
I really just don't understand your reasoning that since something happened in Christianity many moons ago, it's okay for Islam to be doing worse than that right now.....??
Please explain how the Inquisition is bad, but somehow is a great excuse for what Islam is doing now. (Keeping in mind that a LOT has changed in the world since the Inquisition. Christianity did not have the benefit of access to knowledge and past history like Islam has today.)
In what sense does the slaughter of innocents in the name of any God become a childish equivalency, or OK for any religion to carry out?
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Wouldn't they also be more attractive to poor people who lived in the building?
The buildings had been recently upgraded, I wonder why life safety was not the first priority. I know it often is here, having participated in several major highrise reno projects. Upgrading fire alarms, fire suppression,mechanical systems, elevator controls etc to current codes are all very costly and are nearly invisible. But you simply cannot ignore those things to add some nice cladding.