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Actually we want to be about blue liberalism and red toryism since those are commodities which are needed in today's society and since there are a lot of people who tell me that social progressivism and fiscal responsibility are two areas where people feel they are being ignored and red tories have gone to the greens to be disappointed since they have found out it is just an environmentalist party mainly with centrist ideas on the economy. That is not what we need. We need a party that yes has a strong moderate environmental plan but is strong mostly on the economy. As far as the Liberals go, they are not competitive all over the country why is that since they have no strong values on law and order, the military, the gun registry, ethics, taxes, poverty, health care and education. They as far as we stand are for nothing right now except getting in power and the NDP and Conservatives on each of our ends could bridge the divide. The Liberals are dead as far as we are concerned and people want a new alternative and if the Liberals won't get serious we will since they have to announce their priorities as often as possible. We think since we are essentially on the Liberals right end and the Conservatives left end we could make sure our policies are moderate and conservatives and supported by the majority of Canadians. That is something that can be guaranteed. Remember one important thing and that is the Liberal name is toxic in Western Canada and some parts of the country now so we feel if they are done and it will take a long time for them to recover we feel we could be that right liberal/left conservative example and alternative. Thank you and I look forward to a comment on this.

Well they were similar threads and it would not be the first time people have done it so I stand by what I did.

Our democracy is being eroded because of the incompetence of the Harper government. If the Liberals and Conservatives have failed it does not have to be this party but how about creating a Canada party in the centre since we may need a new party and this name could be popular and for all Canadians hence the name Canada Party. Thank you!

We need to ensure that for our democracy to be strong we have to have our elected officials behaving a certain way and there needs to be a certain standard for them to follow so they can be an example for us all. Anyone agree with me? The Conservatives have failed on all levels just like the Liberals. We need a new party to step forward.

Stop the insulting of people's post. People deserve to be treated with respect and the same goes and I thought people are genuinely good mentality is wrong but the truth is the Conservatives are making parliament a laughing stock and want to make sure voter intention gets to the point where no one will vote on the left and they have a committed group of people who could care less what happens to our democracy. That is the truth and I am repeating multiple times because the truth must be heard.

This is further proof that the Conservatives are being dictated everything by the PMO and Stephen Harper's government. He wants to make sure nothing can go wrong right now but when things start to get bad with his government he will take action and it will seem like he has everything under control. The current Conservatives are a very corrupt bunch. This is why we need a centre to centre-right party resembling the old Progressive Conservatives.

This is further proof that the Conservatives are being dictated everything by the PMO and Stephen Harper's government. He wants to make sure nothing can go wrong right now but when things start to get bad with his government he will take action and it will seem like he has everything under control. The current Conservatives are a very corrupt bunch. This is why we need a centre to centre-right party resembling the old Progressive Conservatives.

This is further proof that the Conservatives are being dictated everything by the PMO and Stephen Harper's government. He wants to make sure nothing can go wrong right now but when things start to get bad with his government he will take action and it will seem like he has everything under control. The current Conservatives are a very corrupt bunch. This is why we need a centre to centre-right party resembling the old Progressive Conservatives.

This is why a moderate Conservative a la a Progressive Conservative type party is needed check out this page to see what we stand for and believe that integrity, accountability and transparency are needed. Harper's government is full of incompetents and people who think that if they blame the Liberals for all of their mistakes will get them sympathy but it won't you need to own up for your actions. The site for our platforms are: http://centristparty.piczo.com/?cr=5 The site to see our facebook site is: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=34708647457 We believe a moderate conservative option is better than this Canadian Alliance type party which has been completely dominated by their kind and red tories and blue liberals need to stand up and have their voices heard and claim the centre between the two parties. To see the story on this site check out: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/98546-centrist-party-canada-2.html Thank you and I look forward to comments about this story.

This is why a moderate Conservative a la a Progressive Conservative type party is needed check out this page to see what we stand for and believe that integrity, accountability and transparency are needed. Harper's government is full of incompetents and people who think that if they blame the Liberals for all of their mistakes will get them sympathy but it won't you need to own up for your actions. The site for our platforms are: http://centristparty.piczo.com/?cr=5/. The site to see our facebook site is: http://www.facebook.com/home.php#!/group.php?gid=34708647457 We believe a moderate conservative option is better than this Canadian Alliance type party which has been completely dominated by their kind and red tories and blue liberals need to stand up and have their voices heard and claim the centre between the two parties. To see the story on this site check out: http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/98546-centrist-party-canada-2.html Thank you and I look forward to comments about this story.

This page has to do with raising awareness that Canadian politics has reached the point where a new party is needed between the Liberals and Conservatives. On my sites I have talked about Canada needing a successor to the old Progressive Conservative party and this party would lie between the two major parties. It would be a moderate conservative party that would also be a blue liberal / red tory party whose purpose is to try to get people in the party who are pragmatic, centrist, moderate and willing to try something new. I have already created a website and many people have expressed interest and I feel now is the time on the federal scene for a party who does not pick a niche like the Green Party which is environmentalism but is an actual centrist party between the two parties which has a real shot of forming government, being about middle grounds and compromise and wanting to be a positive voice and inspiring voice for all Canadians. This party would work in the tradition of Sir John A. MacDonald and would want to work with any party and help to raise voter turnout. I believe that this party would get support all over the country. To check out the platform for this party check out this website: http://centristparty.piczo.com/platform?cr=5. This party would be a beacon of hope for people who have lost faith in our current political system and this party wants to also get the best policies from the two major parties and create an even better third party between the two parties. With your help we can get it done and Canada can have a positive political future.

After the episode with the arena debacle one could realize that the Conservatives are in bed with big business, big oil and I think that a moderate conservative party would not go there and would also not be in bed with unions and would take that middle ground and cut taxes moderately, protect health care and education, make people choose on child care, be balanced on foreign policy, make sure the priorities are met before expensive pet projects, balance law and order and defend our north, coasts and borders. That is how we can get Canada moving and make sure that centrist and moderate Canadian voters get what they need in a party that works for them.

Well the truth is you know how the Liberals are generally centrist but they can be viewed as centre-left on social policies but everyone interprets them as centrist. We as a progressive conservative successor type party would be centre-right economically and centrist on some other matters but on the whole we are viewed generally as centrist. therefore, you can be a centrist party even if you are conservative. in great britain, there is a party like it and it is called the conservative party and they believe in social programs and helping out industries that are suffering and tax cuts is what they use to stimulate growth but it is not their whole policy. therefore they are pragmatic, centrist, moderate and the kind of party we want to become to give Canadians a moderate conservative third choice. Once Canadians realize that there is another party and it is the successor to the old PC party they will come in droves also since Harper's party is negative and wants to become and emulate the Republican party in the United States. We would want the right policies and we wouldn't just put money into things. We would be an intellectual conservative party and base things on facts, research, and studies. Therefore we would be about working together with the other parties, about tax cuts for stimulating growth, about stimulating key sectors, about essential programs, about working on the environment, about cutting the size of programs that work and investing in areas that do work, we want to invest in post secondary education and we believe that Canadians should choose their child care programs. Lastly, I understand that there are millions of votes but we need to say that Stephen Harper wants to spend the money on misplaced priorities and the Liberals and Conservatives cannot be trusted and we would like to invest in key areas and lower taxes and invest in key industries. We also want a balanced approach on law and order, child care, foreign affairs, security, and many other issues. We also want to keep health care and education as key essential programs and make sure our social programs remain strong. Therefore, we want to by doing this be the party about wanting to reduce the debt and deficit faster than any other party. So ya I think it would be a welcomed change and we could challenge across the country and in every region and being a party that works with others is a step in the right direction so seats in Atlantic Canada and Quebec could come easy.

Well the truth is you know how the Liberals are generally centrist but they can be viewed as centre-left on social policies but everyone interprets them as centrist. We as a progressive conservative successor type party would be centre-right economically and centrist on some other matters but on the whole we are viewed generally as centrist. therefore, you can be a centrist party even if you are conservative. in great britain, there is a party like it and it is called the conservative party and they believe in social programs and helping out industries that are suffering and tax cuts is what they use to stimulate growth but it is not their whole policy. therefore they are pragmatic, centrist, moderate and the kind of party we want to become to give Canadians a moderate conservative third choice. Once Canadians realize that there is another party and it is the successor to the old PC party they will come in droves also since Harper's party is negative and wants to become and emulate the Republican party in the United States. We would want the right policies and we wouldn't just put money into things. We would be an intellectual conservative party and base things on facts, research, and studies. Therefore we would be about working together with the other parties, about tax cuts for stimulating growth, about stimulating key sectors, about essential programs, about working on the environment, about cutting the size of programs that work and investing in areas that do work, we want to invest in post secondary education and we believe that Canadians should choose their child care programs. Lastly, I understand that there are millions of votes but we need to say that Stephen Harper wants to spend the money on misplaced priorities and the Liberals and Conservatives cannot be trusted and we would like to invest in key areas and lower taxes and invest in key industries. We also want a balanced approach on law and order, child care, foreign affairs, security, and many other issues. We also want to keep health care and education as key essential programs and make sure our social programs remain strong. Therefore, we want to by doing this be the party about wanting to reduce the debt and deficit faster than any other party. So ya I think it would be a welcomed change and we could challenge across the country and in every region and being a party that works with others is a step in the right direction so seats in Atlantic Canada and Quebec could come easy.

One other thing I talked about yesterday on other forums is it is inevitable by the nature of how the Conservatives act a new party could form between the Liberals and Conservatives simply because of hatred that the Conservatives will cause and even by alienating their own people in the party who expected the Conservatives would be different. In fact, the Conservatives could make a lot of supporters go to the Green Party or a party like ours. I have heard that the United Party is something people could go to and our party being a successor to the old Progressive Conservative party is something that would get favour in the Atlantic provinces. There is nothing wrong with wanting a party that simply wants to compromise the best issues of the two major parties into a new party. Some party people have even thought about bringing in some fluently bi-lingual, charismatic and people who are inspiring. That is what we need for leadership in the country and I feel it is what we could get if our party was created.

Well our party wants to be strong on law and order and support mandatory minimums while providing rehabilitation programs and make sure that education programs are provided to ensure youth and troubled people don't enter the world of crime. We all need to make sure that all loopholes are filled. Also, as a party we are close to it getting formed. I feel that the only problem is finding a leader but of the 250 electors needed I would say that we are on our way.

Well thanks for the support.

I try not to be stereotypical but what is wrong with a party that favours keeping things which work well and not keeping the things that don't work well for Canadians. The truth is I am trying to let you know about what I saw in the 2000 election from Joe Clark and making the party comparison from the PCs at that time which they even favoured action on poverty, reducing the debt, opening more free trade with other countries, they actually wanted an approach to tackle violent crime but not as hard as the Conservatives are pushing, they wanted democracy as the main plank of the party and wanted to focus on maintaining health and education as a strong priority. Therefore, you understand when I brought up the comparisons between the Alliance party and the PC party I don't mean to put them down I genuinely do remember some of the planks of the two parties but ya you may be right that some of the extreme elements of the Alliance party were gotten rid of in favour of more moderate planks for the party. I think that is good but what is wrong with getting good policies from the two major parties to make an even better party better but work and build a stronger Canada in the mean time.

I think what everyone wants is a two state solution and have you seen the ten percenters the Conservatives launched in other ridings saying that they will always stand with Israel and the other parties don't support Israel at all. They were trying to win Jewish voters. I think that approach is too negative and we would say all nations are equal and try to help build relations with all nations.

Well we support a two state solution and we won't just support one nation over another. I think the balanced approach must take hold in this country and the US approach is a failure.

I am way different from the guy named APC in that he wants to create something of a regional party but the Centrist Party could be a spoiler of both the Liberals and Conservatives. Of course no one wants to be the spoiler but instead offer their own alternative. I am sure you saw my website and if you did not the party we wanted to create was a party that was purple liberal to purple tory to give the broadest range of policies and cover the entire centre but the people in the party thought that would be too broad and limited it to mainly red tory and blue liberal as the main tents but still accepting people from all over the spectrum. In terms of your comment about the PC party being electable I witnessed everything that I saw when I watched politics at the time and noticed that Joe Clark was the only PC MP by 2004 and the Conservative MPs in his old party who joined the new Conservative party called him a traitor and said he worked for the Liberals. The important thing people need to ask themselves is why did about 4% of the people by 2004 join the Greens and why did the Greens become the 5th party at the time and why are they still gaining support. It is simple red toryism is not some fake ideology but it is now important to the 8 to 10% who support the Greens. In terms of Atlantic Canada where I live we do not want a regional party but I can clearly go from door to door and define what the party is going to be about and once they hear the differences between the PC party and this new Conservative party which takes mainly from the Alliance and gives crumbs to the PCers I think it is something that is positive what I am doing. The people in all regions want a true alternative and you ask Canadians where is the leadership and they will see there is nothing to be found and just negativity. Also, Reform got started before the 1988 election but the truth is the GST rapidly helped Reform get started faster. It was inevitable but it just sped up the process. The people in Quebec would also come to our party with open arms and we could say we are a red tory/blue liberal party and we could be that united alternative to the Bloc Quebecois and we stand. I have some people who are bi-lingual and could be leader of the party so I think if Canada had this party yes it would make Canada have endless minority government but it would be our party taking a chunk of seats in Atlantic Canada, Quebec and quite possibly the West where Liberal voters may drift to our party. Therefore we could be the party that replaces the CPC in the East and Liberals in the West and in Ontario we could take a bit of each which may be good. Therefore, here are my predictions if that scenario happens the CPC will get furious and you could start to see other parties forming but what could also happen is the CPC may want to try to get people on the inside of this party just like the old PC party.

In terms of the support for Israel unilaterally the Conservatives are closer to the Alliance part of the party which cannot be denied. In terms of law and order they are closer to the Alliance side, the PC side favoured a balanced law and order approach which meant money going into rehabilitation programs and an approach where you do not engage too much into mandatory minimums. For health and education I agree the party is pretty much the same as the old PC party and we favour that too. On foreign policy we favour the balanced approach and making sure diplomacy and peace comes before engaging in war and the Conservatives seem to be in that direction probably since they are just in a minority government but traditionally the PC party wanted a balanced law and order and balanced foreign policy approach. In terms of security we favour protecting our North, our borders and our coasts not just to copy the CPC agenda but because it is the right thing to do. The PC party supported getting rid of the long gun registry and we in the Centrist Party want the same thing even though some Alliance and Reform members at one time supported it. The Alliance supported gay marriage being banned and the same with parts of abortion, in the PC party they supported making sure gay marriage was not banned and the same goes with abortion. We in the Centrist Party support the PC party direction. In terms of democracy we support parliamentary democracy over a republic and we want a party that is committed to middle grounds and compromise and we want to even bring in a proportional representation system and even reform the Senate. Those are the differences between the PC party and the Alliance party. They wanted to be the blue tory side and the red tory side was the PC party and this new Conservative party is on the blue tory side and we want to bring back the red tory side which wanted health and education a major priority with support programs for the disadvantaged and tax cuts to stimulate growth and support in key areas in the manufacturing sector. Therefore we think a red tory/blue liberal party is wanted.

Anyways for those of you who are interested in viewing the party and seeing the first page of the party which has the join to become a member for free and be one of the 250 electors to help the party get registered then the site is: http://www.centristparty.piczo.com Also, you may contact me by seeing the email address at the bottom of the first page. Thank you.

Well then it is good the party is now defunct at the federal level because of what you said. I feel if a party attracts those type of people it should not exist.

What I remember on the site is all these PCers saying that we are going to get our party back and be ready for the next federal election where we will run a full slate of candidates and Peter MacKay and the Conservative party have to understand that for the merger to have been successful it was supposed to be agreed by all the PC supporters and the candidates who were slated to be PC candidates. I think all that stuff about free trade seems so un-Conservative I mean if they wanted to make the party between the NDP and Liberals then it would be okay but David Orchard seemed so Liberal of a Conservative. I think to be a red tory you need to support compassionate conservatism with a mixture of business sense and that is what makes you a progressive conservative. Anyways, that is my opinion but David Orchard was a pink tory as far as I am concerned.