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I think that's a bit disingenuous as he never goes by John.

Was it really at 1:30am? If so that puts an entirely different light on it, but I haven't seen that anywhere else.

You said you'd voted against them for four straight elections. So you voted against them before they were ever the government. How they behaved as a government, therefore, has no affect on your vote.

Are you thinking he would have said yes?

Yes, yes, we've already heard from you on several occasions how much more noble and tolerant than us you are, Smallc. But if it makes you feel more appropriately self-righteous you go on repeating it.

I've never been to a massage ... place. The closest would be a physiotherapist last summer for my back. This place was like a medical office, very brightly lit, very professional, people in white coats, wide open area, storefront windows, with male and female physiotherapists. Yes, there were private rooms, much like medical clinic rooms. I was in a couple during visits - with not particularly handsome male physiotherapists, and these rooms do have tables for massage and other purposes. Nobody I saw was ever naked, though, and none of the staff were particularly attractive, and they paired males with males and females with females. The place had all the luster of a dentists office. This is the sort of place I would expect to find if I needed a massage. It doesn't sound very similar to the place smiling Jack went.

I don't think legality is necessarily the issue. For those who care, it's an issue of morality.

Weird maybe...

Does she do massages on naked men? Because it seems to me that a respectable establishment would have men massaging men and women massaging women. Of course, it doesn't sound like this establishment had any male masseuses...

The only license I'm aware of that they could be talking about is a Toronto bodyrub license, which is issued by the city. Are you aware of another kind?

I would never imply such a thing, myself. I might SAY it outright, of course.

For the same reason so many people paid so little attention to the NDP's dumb economic policies before but now are scrutinizing them more carefully.

I doubt those paid trainers are pretty young Asian girls.

I disagree completely. The political discourse in the US has been ruled by largely irrelevant hot-button issues for twenty five or thirty years now: abortion, guns and gays. There are immense numbers of Americans who are obsessed with those topics, and they tend to be used as a screening subject on every political issue and job, from local prosecuting attorney, local city council and mayor up to and including whether a person is or is not acceptable as a Supreme Court judge or presidential candidate.

Drivel

I would think that if you show up at a clinic and it's dimly lit and peopled by pretty asian girls you might be expected to have some suspicions about its purpose. :-)

Not me. And it wouldn't matter if he was a Tory. I don't vote for people based on whether they like to have sex with willing people or not. The 'massage therapist' who was with him was in her mid twenties, didn't speak much English and 'just started the other day'. From reading that, I rather doubt she was the sort of 'registered massage therapists' that respectable massage clinics employ. If it was someone who had made a career out of moralizing such things, ie, Stockwell Day, or someone similar that would affect my vote. But if his wife has no problem with him wanting a 'massage' from a pretty Asian girl then I don't either.

How can you possibly prove what a statement is meant to imply?

Excuse me, Councillor, but how can a true statement be actionable?

I disagree. Such a statement is more than sufficient for me and most of those I know to immediately write off any candidate now and forevermore, as a blithering imbecile.

In other words, it doesn't matter how they govern or what they do because you'd never vote for them anyway.

The Left causes humour in the Right by its delusions of moral superiority.

I think what they meant to say was "voters who believe Canada should aspire to something greater than the realistic, careful, financially sensible vision offered by the Harper Conservatives should look to Jack Layton.."

I think it was more in the nature of a joke. Not that the Left has ever evidenced much of a sense of humour...

And bring in several billion in tourist dollars...