Bryan

Best Buy did that. Before the purchase, Futureshop understood the idea of having stuff in stock for customer to actually buy. BB ran them into the ground.

Absolutely not. Intolerant people like you are the reason legislation like this is necessary.

That's not what this bill is about, and it's outright ignorance to suggest that it is.

So it's a very good law, and bigots hate it. Yeah, I already got that.

As well it should be, as that would open those businesses up to be targets of the kind of hateful BS we are already seeing over this bill.

...and?

It's not drift. It directly relates to the suggestion that WestCoastRunner was making to change the way things operate around here to attract a segment of people who have not shown a great deal of interest in this site. The example is directly germane as well. Another group that also is not attracting a high percentage of one demographic, even though they are not excluding them in any way. The suggestions there were also to change it so that it resembles something else that those particular people already do attend in higher numbers. In both instances, and in many others that could be listed, no one is being excluded. Some people are just interested in things that others are not.

That argument is the ignorance I'm referring to.

No, the funniest part is people reading this and not realizing that this (and everything else on that site) is fake.

What is it you don't understand?

Bigotry is the only reason to oppose this one.

Not having reasons would make you even more ignorant.

Those are the kinds of discussions that happen -- that jiu-jitsu should be more like karate. Karate already exists for those who like their martial arts structured that way. If that's what they want, they should go do that.

Anyone who is joining the ignorant masses in opposing this bill.

This is an important point, that is echoed in many other places. I see it a lot at the gym. My daughter and I both train Brazilian jiu-jitsu, and the topic always comes up that we need to find ways to get more women to train martial arts. My answer is always "why?". We need people who are interested in the sport to come, sure. But what gender they are is irrelevant. Some want to change the conditions and culture both at the gym and of the sport in general to make it more "female friendly". In doing so, they are alienating the people (male and female) who already like it for what it is, AND people who are not interested still don't want to come. You can't make people like something they don't, and you shouldn't take things that others do like away from them. Let people do what they want to do where they want to do it.

That's because dummies don't know what the law is even about, they are just riding the public wave in an attempt to look progressive.

Taking what up? That I mentioned how it's defined in academic textbooks?

Equating sexual orientation to left-handedness is insulting? What is your thought process there? It's literally the textbook definition. Take it up with the liberal arts universities in this country who are still using those same texts.

That is a very bigoted opinion.

Maybe they'd prefer you'd use the term "deviant". Because that's what it's called in my psych textbooks from university. Deviant also sounds like a "bad" accusation, but it's probably more accurate -- it's a deviation from the norm.

You seem to be equating abnormal with "bad". Being left-handed is not normal. Most people are right handed, so much so that the whole world is designed to accommodate them. They are not expected to spend the money to make sure everything at any business or public place operates equally both ways. Why? Because the normal customer you might encounter doesn't need it, and the few that do are expected to adapt and do things the other way. No one is saying that being a lefty is a bad thing, only that is not the normal condition.

The Democrats are the ones who enacted the federal RFRA. States are just bringing their laws in line with the federal ones. Democrats have their own hot button issues. One of those is attacking anyone who has any religious conviction as crazy or a bigot. They are playing exactly the same game, while pretending to a phoney high ground.

Anyone who believes in equality SHOULD support the Indiana legislation. Opposition to it is the very outright bigotry the opponents are pretending to be against.

I wonder where the outrage from liberals was when the Democrats enacted the federal RFRA?

Monsanto was not the one making that particular claim, Patrick Moore was -- he does not work for Monsanto. That said, it's not a dishonest claim. The science has not shown harmful effects due to ingestion by humans. http://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-carcinogenicity-classification-of-five-pesticides-by-the-international-agency-for-research-on-cancer-iarc/ Saying that it's possible to ingest a given substance without it bringing harm to you (and/or that the evidence doesn't support that it would) is not the same thing as recommending that anyone do it, nor does it mean that anyone would want to. It's safe to eat spiders. That I can tell you this, yet I will still refuse to eat them if you presented them to me is not a contradiction.