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Exactly. Of course Harper and all his cronies including the ass kissers on this board of course claim that it was the right thing to do to cancel the funding. The funding isn't the issue. If she cancelled the funding, there would be a debate but no one would be calling for her head. The fact is, she FORGED a document. She knowingly changed it without the knowledge or consent of the people who originally signed the document. That's is what we call illegal. You just can't get around that. Furthermore, I fully suspect the PMO was behind it. Why would she go back and forge a document she had previously approved unless she was directed? Furthermore, changing expert opinion from CIDA, I'd imagine, would save the trouble they had with the census - in that the experts actually approved our cut this time. The fact that Harper is saying she did nothing wrong is what makes this worse. He's aiding and abetting a criminal offense. As long as the cabinet supports her, they deserve to be held in contempt as well.

He's done shockingly little even from a minority parliament. What has he really done? He cut the GST to 5% and that's about it. What else has he done that hasn't been forced on him?

What was that about spreading lies?

Actually, the funny thing is that the other pollsters have the Liberals only 4 points behind. Ekos could be accurate, it could be an outlier. The thing is, there's no trend to support this yet. If all the polls next week have similar number then we'll know.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2011/02/11/cida-castigated-over-doctored-document/ Not surprising from our "open and transparent" government.

No it's not, it's because the guy ditched the team. Also, as for your article, leave it to the Toronto Sun say Toronto isn't a Liberal enclave anymore a week after a poll confirmed a double digit Liberal lead within the 416. Rossi may run in Toronto, and he may represent all those urban sensibilities. He has to win first, though. I have a feeling Rossi is going to turn into John Tory pt. 2.

Good if you're a Liberal, bad if you're Rossi.

Funny. The Liberal riding association where Rossi is running raised $12,000 the day he announced he'd be running for the PCs.

There's a coffin now? Jeez, 77 seats and the party is dead. So when Mulroney and Kim Campbell took the Conservaties from the largest majority in Canadian history to 2 seats, that's what in your books?

We (Ontario) actually sell our excess power to the US and neighbouring provinces. Seems like a good solution to me.

They made up 8 points in the last poll and are statistically tied with the Tories. When people find out who Hudak is and who he'll bring to power, I think that's game over. I think a minority Liberal government is most likely.

Considering you can only really ever implement that legislation once, I guess we'll never know, now will we? Pearson would've done it with a majority or minority. Trudeau would have as well. Do I need to reel off Trudeau's progressive policies while he had a majority?

No. They shouldn't. They didn't write the policy, they merely voted for it. That's like saying I should be given credit for a friend's thesis because I read it and liked it.

Canada is quite a bit bigger than Saskatchewan. Furthermore, you're forgetting that the Liberals weren't in power for 1957-1963. If the promises started in 1951, the period from 51-57 would denote 6 years. You also have a second bout of shoddy history. The medicare act was passed in 1966. 3 years. That's 9 years in total. 1 more than your NDP in Saskatchewan, except it encompassed the ENTIRE country.

The largest I've seen is 175. It's from Rogers but it's at least $100.

I am not Michael Ignatieff. I don't say everything Ignatieff does. I don't agree with everything that he does. You're either so partisan that you think it's normal for everyone to tow the party line no matter what, or you're just that stupid. Considering the first qualifies you for the second, I think that answers that. Yet they did. The NDP didn't push anyone anywhere. Pearson would've done it regardless.

I have no idea. Let the man speak for himself. Don't put my words into his mouth. Hahahahaha. Apparently the NDP's only accomplishment is plagiarism. Did NDP governments implement those programs? Nope. I guess you missed that lesson in university. Probably too busy protesting tuition increases.

Is this a joke? Is this some kind of cheap joke? Are you really that stunted that you think my words carry as much weight as Ignatieff's? DO you honestly think other people will think that? Use common sense the next time. Besides, I'm still waiting for you to post NDP accomplishments from the other thread. I'll be waiting a while, I think.

No it isn't. The guy is an opportunist. He thinks the Tories are going to win, he needs a gig, so he runs for the Tories. Because there are no NDP opportunists.

I didn't ask for the current NDP platform. You said the NDP has done much more for Canada and has a much better record regarding governance. Past tense. Quit trying to turn this into how bad the Liberals are. You asked me to post what was done by the Liberals. I did. You didn't regarding the NDP despite the fact you said you would. Lets see it.

No, an ideological jerk. You still have yet to post anything close to a Dipper legislative agenda. You said you'd like to debate governance which would incontravertibly prove that in government the NDP is so much better. You haven't. Where is it?

Which is the very media you claim to be liberal.

The NDP planned on scrapping the GST as well. Something you probably forgot. Considering that the NDP voted against a GST tax cut twice and you're accusing the LIBERALS of having an about face? Well, it just shows how crass and opportunistic you really are. There were medicare programs that covered only certain things but it was moved to full universality by Pearson, so yeah, we wouldn't have what we do today if it wasn't for Pearson to say nothing of the fact that you have still yet to post anything from a governing record that makes them so much greater than the Liberal Party. It's all fine and good to say the Liberals didn't do the "heavy lifting" but fact is something else, no? What is "the heavy lifting" thinking up the idea or actually writing the policy and implementing it? Was it the NDP and the Tories who took the backlash from the industry? No, it was the government. So please, if you want to talk about historical accuracy, you might want to try it yourself. Yeah, but they didn't. I don't disagree but I still don't see the NDP alternative. You said you were willing to come on here and debate how the NDP record is so much better than the Liberal alternative. I've posted Liberal accomplishments. You've only attacked. In other words, history only matters if it supports my argument. Well, 30 years ago. Considering you're still using the GST as a reason why the Liberals can't be trusted, which is nearly 20 years ago, I don't think you have any right to be bitching about how long ago a certain policy was introduced. So please, spare me your indignation. That and trying desperately to rub the red paint off doesn't make it true, either.

I don't agree with that stance, but in the end in terms of hard political reality, it's true and you know it's true. Furthermore, if you haven't been paying attention, I've never claimed that the Liberals don't play politics. They do. Why? Because it is politics. My only point here has been that it's a little hypocritical of you to be throwing around terms like flip flop when every party is guilty of the same thing. If you really don't like the strategy of Liberals telling dippers not to vote for Layton because you'll get Harper, maybe offer up something the NDP wants rather than trying to make the case that the Liberals are the devil.

Ah, the Liberals only played a roll. Let me ask you this. If the Liberals weren't in power, would those things have been implemented? The answer is undoubtedly no. To say the Liberals only played a role in Mike Pearson's accomplishment is a spit in the face of Mike Pearson. Pearson was forced to do nothing. It was his agenda. He was fortunate to have the NDP to help him along, but if he had a majority he would've done those things anyhow. The constitution was Trudeau's baby. To say that the Liberals only played "a roll" is basically a lie. That was all Trudeau. As was multiculturalism. He fought for further French integration within the bureaucracy as french speakers from Quebec were routinely discriminated against. He did it all within the context of strong federalism. So, I suppose if you want to call trying to keep the country together wedge politics than I suppose he's guilty, but really, that's just one of another bold faced lies we've seen. The Liberals did cut money from EI, however, considering the budget deficits, something had to be done. This ugly theme raises it's head once again. It's easy to critique, but what was the NDP plan? To continue with deficit spending? Raise taxes more? That's an honest question, but one I don't expect a serious response to. Yeah there was some terrible shit that went on during the war. Absolutely. However, that was also representative of Canada as a whole and not just it's leaders. There were Nazi race riots at Christie Pitts in downtown Toronto just before the war started. There were "No Jews Allowed" signs all over the city. It's terrible but we're all guilty of that sin, not just the Liberals. The problem with representative democracies is they tend to be representative - both good and bad. Yeah most of the stuff I mentioned happened under majority governments and as I mentioned, Pearson would've moved ahead with his agenda with a majority anyhow so this is just partisan non-sense. I think that's crap but hey, I guess that's your opinion. Personally, I think that a Party can look out for both itself and the nation at the same time. I mean, if a party gets something done they can be proud of, why shouldn't they use it to their advantage? The NDP does it all the time even though federally the party really has accomplished next to nothing. Speaking of which, where are all the super great things you claim the NDP did?