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yes, I also would laugh at your peculiar and self-serving interpretation of that overview's reference to subsidy. .

again, you're speculating... even the "leaked" overview speaks of 2030 as the year new homes built after must be heated without using fossil fuels, such as natural gas. Have you not heard of gas-to-electric furnace conversions? .

why the scurrySpeculateFlurry?

you've already made up your mind before seeing the plan details... why, even before getting a chance to search for detracting analysis... of the actual plan! .

you earlier raised a concern based on your presumed personal cost impact... you are aware the plan overview speaks to subsidizing increase costs to consumers - yes? .

OMG! Did not know that electric meant "baseboard"! Also... did not know that you couldn't add a detached humidifier... or that heat/air exchangers didn't include them! #BogesDoesn'tKnow . .

you should take that angle and run with it in the 'leaders prediction' thread! But good on ya for acknowledging the lame azzed efforts/results from Rona/Thomas! No need to reply as that would be thread drift/derail. note: thread drift/derail avoidance notification was made... and ignored! I can only do so much here... .

not me! Why does your "anyone"... uhhh... "hate it"? As for your other questions, you'll need to wait for the plan details and related analysis - yes? .

hey now! Latest days old polling results from Forum research has the Liberals at 52%... that's superMajority territory! When's the honeymoon over, hey? .

geejaz! Now she's reverting to cannibalization... sacrificing the "young earthers"... the "specials". Now, apparently, only the "oldsters", only the "old earth creationists" are worthy! in case MLW member betsy missed it the first time: .

say what! Ya ya, that comment is getting big-air! Imagine, a gas company faced with significant impact offering up an unsubstantiated cost factor - go figure! Enbridge Gas has long had a 'savings calculator' as an inducement for Ontario residents to switch to gas... methinks to place more credence in something like that over a comment coming from a Union Gas media rep... who acknowledges Union Gas has not seen the plan. I tweaked the criteria within that savings calculator 3 different times and came up with an average where electricity was ~210% more costly than gas... an annual price differential, on average, of about $1500. Enbridge Gas was also up front in acknowledging that high efficiency heating systems are 90% efficient and conventional/mid efficient heating systems are considered to be 80% efficient. but wait, what's this? What's the key point detractors are avoiding in this thread as they "purposely" presume to play the high-cost impact card for consumers? That's right... somehow, no one has mentioned that the proposed plan states any impacting price increases to consumers will be subsidized by the province. Now why would that lil' ditty be ignored by the detractos, hey? .

clarification please: I keep reading you referring to someone named "Orville"... who is this... do you have a last name? .

bloody amazing! In the face of every other participating MLW members interpretations... and direct quotes from that article... you're back on the "evidence bandwagon"! Rather than continue to ask you for examples of that evidence... and have you either ignore yet another request or revert to your standby deflection, "go contact the NAS yourself", let me instead quote you from the same article: .

dude, why the need to deal in a hypothetical? You can't substantiate the man-baby's statement... and you're now willing to speculate, "Trump was lying". show me a Canadian refugee's phone with an ISIS flag on it - when you do that, I might entertain your entertainment! .

and by the way, Justin Trudeau won’t accept his family’s child-care benefit --- Liberal leader will instead donate it to La Maison Bleue, a group that helps vulnerable women during pregnancy .

absofxxxinglutely! The American media is being heavily scrutinized, finally, for the piss-poor job it's done in not verifying/challenging statements made by Trump... just accepting them verbatim and publishing them as if they had credence - effectively acting as a PR-wing for Trump. .

dude, you want an answer to what, without corroboration, is just more fear-mongering from the man-baby; i.e., made-up shyte! I purposely used that reference to "thousands upon thousands of Muslims in New Jersey cheering the WTC towers coming down" - as I read fact-checking sites, Trump was adamant he personally saw it... when he began to be challenged on his BS he reverted to saying he saw it on TV coverage... which eventually became he saw it in a picture". So... even if YOU'RE willing to accept unsubstantiated fear-mongering from Trump, let's suppose Trump saw a picture of an ISIS flag on a phone... where did it come from/sourced from... was that an American refugees phone... how many phones/refugees against the total number in this latest piece of man-baby diaper crap? .

provide something to suggest Trump isn't making up shyte again! .

not sure why you continue with such an easy facet: no additional staff have been added over/above the complement 'the Harper family' had... as I understand, no additional monies are being expended. Along with other tasked roles, two of the Trudeau staff are also certified/capable of acting as nannies for the young children. Where's the beef man? .

other species? Really? It's not that difficult - just ask yourself if you differentiate between male/female versus man/woman .

c'mon... with the money small-hands Trump has, there are no obstacles! hey now! Creationist evolutionary evidence, yes? .

and Trump saying it... makes it so... in your eyes! The same man-baby who for years insisted he saw, " thousands and thousands of Muslims in New Jersey celebrating when the World Trade Center buildings came down on 9/11". .

man-baby plays the fear card! wait now! I'm sure we had several MLW members in past threads who also questioned how Syrian refugees to Canada could have/afford cell phones - jeezaz, why didn't they speak up more/louder and warn us about those ISIS phones! .

not definitive at all, but... from a 2015 G&M article that (unfortunately doesn't provide source reference): "Together, trans and intersex persons account for 775,000 Canadians (0.5 per cent are trans, 2 per cent are intersex)"... the number correlates to a population of 31 million for Canada, aligning with 2006 population data: => which would equate to 155,000 Canadians @0.5% trans to the earlier questioning of whether a number means anything - I would say it does based on comments I read/hear in regards "bathroom usage/assignments", particularly localized to high-schools... something of the like, "just how many trans kids can there be in that school, anyway!" of course, broad terms fail to address the 'nuances' within identity/identify. As I read, it's yet unclear the target categorization(s) for the intended Trudeau government legislation... broad reference is given to just the term, 'transgender', in what I've read so far. I would expect/anticipate a more granular makeup in target protections; one to extend across transgender, transsexual, intersex and gender variant groupings. .