Stoker

SO you knew that in the first few months of the Afghan war, the Americans were abusing prisoners? Can you also see the lottery numbers in advance?

Black Dog, both thoses "reports" you link to are dated well after Pearl was killed, thus to say that Pearl was killed because of allegations of prisoner abuse in Gitmo (as did Ceaser) is complete and utter fallacy.

And So I went to your conspiracy theorist website, and I'll be damned, it doesn't mention anything relating to your claims of torture of prisoners in Cuba by the American government..........Whats going on caesar?

My god, the press broke the story of Abu grad prision in Janurary (for the most part) and some reports surfaced almost a year ago........but it doesn't mater Pearl was killed before the iraq war started (Jan 2002) and only about five months after the towers fell......... So I guess your proof of torture in the American camp in Cuba is secret also?

So.....I.....guess....it's a good thing that even though the definition of the Taliban fighters is fuzzy, the Americans are giving them the benifit of the doubt? Thats complete and utter Bullshit GO GOOGLE DANIEL PEARL FFS !!! Or does he not count caesar, because he was a jew?

Old news....... And Thats America's postion, and if you agree with it or not, it's a nasty war and it's light years better then how the other side treats prisoners. And if their are some innocent people in the American camps, unlike the people held by the terrorists, they will eventaly be released....alive.

Can you tell the difference between a member of the Taliban and a member of Al-Qaeda? This sounds like the members of the SS that would steal and/or kill for regular soldiers uniforms when the Soviets advanced.......

3 Billion into Healthcare, 3 Billion into defence, 1 Billion into tax rebate, and 1 Billion into the blackhole known as other.....

Quest to rule the world? Care to shed some light on this opinion of yours? Oh, and how was the cold war the "good old days" for the United States? If, in your opinion, the States is out to "rule the world", didn't the Soviets prevent the States from this goal?

What makes you say that? Just a hunch perhaps?

And what "prompted the withholding in the first place"?

What people are being held within the United States without being charged?

What do the prisoners in Cuba and Iraq have to do with homeland defence? So what right(s) have been takin away from Americans?

Do you have a link? Break out the Tin-Foil hats Big Brother is watching you!!!! Just cause? Is not 9/11 just cause? You should have no problem providing a link then.........so what rights are being broken? I've heard of delays at airports and at the boarders, but is waiting in line and having your baggage checked, for your own safety, breaking your human rights? I think about three thousand people had their human rights broken on 9/11.

U.S. coughs up United Nations dues........... Feb 8th 2001 8th of Feburary 2001..........how long had Bush been president? When? What rights has it attacked?

Yeah, so? Switzerland is also the size of Nova Scotia Also they don't send troops overseas on UN peacekeeping missions. Can we apply that to also Healthcare, law enforcement and Fire protection? You have a soucre? What rights have they lost? When and who said that about Canada? Who are they forcing democracy on? And why does the United States (among other coutries) have to attempt to "interfere" in other countries or make war with other countries to defend itself and it's intrests? If the United Nations worked, there wouldn't be a need.... As for the dues owed by the United States, they payed them a few years ago, and the reason they didn't pay them, was in protest to the International Criminal Court.......but notice the States didn't stop providing aid to UN orginizations?

I forgot............all the worlds problems are caused by the United States Thank christ that Russia, China and France have never used their veto powers. And right here you expalin why the UN will never work.............the smaller, less powerful countries don't get a say, nor would the larger 5 countries want smaller countries making desicions that would affect them.......The United Nations will never work. Military expenditures - percent of GDP: 2.1% or almost double what we spend based on our GDP

It would never have happend with a fair weather Liberal government.............but we did take part in the "illegal Kosovo air war"...... The UN is ineffective............I challange you to prove otherwise.

So you are saying that we deserve a seat because we pay our dues on time? Fair minded? More like on the fence.....Less politically motivated? How's that? You think Canada doesn't look out for itself first? Ok, really, why do we deserve one? Sure, why not? I wouldn't expect a country to not put it's own needs first........why should the States be any different? Didn't we bring up the prospect of becoming neutral before? If we became neutral, say good-bye to NATO and Norad and all the other mutral defence treaties that we are part of, and then be prepared to increase defence spending signifacantly, since we will be all on our lonesome....... You see, it costs money to be neutral, go ask the Swedes.....

Rogue states, terror, possably China in the future.....Really though, trying to predict who could pose a threat in the near future is as easy as trying to predict when a person will have a heart attack, be attacked by another person, or have their house catch fire. Do we deserve a seat? What about a veto? Perhaps not moraly right to you or to those opposed to America, but is not defending ones self moral?

Can't think of that last time............but that proves my point further, the Swiss have a very capable army and air force, not to mention their terrain suits a defeceive stance. With that said, the Swiss are a bad example when you compare "us and them". They have a neutral outlook on forgein policy and we don't. *Translation* We can underfund our military (unlike the other G8 nations) because the Americans will take care of us. Is that what your saying? Since the Americans are "doing most of our share of the work", and paying for it, what right do we (as in Canadians) have to bitch and moan when they do something that is not to our liking?

I know that Thats why I asked it Whats your point here? To prove mine further? Well armed military = deterence.

Thats the dumbest thing I've ever heard You can't have your cake and eat it too caesar......... A well equiped military, like nuclear weapons, serves as a deterrent. With your logic, if we cut our police forces, crime would go down Barely. We had to take the body armour from the soldiers in Bosnia, to give to the soldiers in Afghanistain. Besides, for a nation of our standing, our overseas deployments (in terms of numbers) our a joke.

As the Newf said, time would be a factor........You can't build a modern warship in a couple of weeks or a modern tank or fighter aircraft in a mater of hours. And how many thousands of young Canadians died in both wars because they were rushed through training, thus were one day plowing a field in Saskatchewan, then a few weeks later fighting Germans in Orentano? Well, let's cut funding towards education and healthcare, and put that money towards the debt also........education and healthcare can make due. Where do our intrests lie? IOW, how's more important to our well being: the security counicl members or the terrorists nation of the United States? Also, were you opposed to Canada beinmg involved in the terrorists led action in Kosovo? Canadians fighting without UN involvement/permission Do you think nobody should be taking part in the Sudan because the UN hasn't said to yet? What part of the "bureaucracy" would you cut? All modern armed forces have a large tail........so what would you cut?

I understand that your post was in jest, but I wish to be clear with MS.............If we don't fund the Paramedics (for example) they won't be there when we need them................just as the armed forces.