Sir Bandelot

Just to be clear, that's what you think this is all about. You can't separate the nuts from the normal people. Musta banged your head on a rock too much when you were in the army.

sniff me arse, mutt

Wrong, but believe what you will. I take offense anytime someone or a group thinks they should tell me what to do, be they muslims, christians or neocons. On the other hand, anyone wants to do their thing in their own privacy, be it worship their god or what have you, legally and with consenting persons, that's not my business either. Pretty simple logic really. I want my freedom, within the confines of law. Mind your own damn business and I will do likewise. So rest assured, any muslims starts to tell me what I should do I would take issue with it. But in reality it's YOU PEOPLE who think you've got something to say, about everyone else.

Right on AW, damn those muslims. Stupid bastards

Then there's the whole question, is war the most effective way to solve problems like, letting little girls go to school. Are there other ways to do it, without blowing little girls up by shooting hellfire rockets at their village.

A brilliant observation. In my city there is an all-boys school in one area, and an all-girls school in another. Not muslim though, they just seem to like it that way. Let's hunt them down and bomb them into the stone ages, right Dog? Come one! Woof woof woof

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How is shouting and fighting in a public street a private conversation? Doesn't sound like it would stand in a court of law. But who knows these days. If it holds up, it's a technicality that allows them to continue doing it without fear of legal repurcussion. Nice to see how the police are concerned first and foremost with getting away with their crimes, which seems the primary motivation for using these laws. No wonder people have no confidence in the system.

Oops, forgot the link again. Link to Full Article

Was just reading the comments made in a speech by New York City Mayor Bloomberg, thought they were very clearly worded and deserve to be quoted here: “This nation was founded on the principle that the government must never choose between religions or favor one over another. The World Trade Center site will forever hold a special place in our city, in our hearts. But we would be untrue to the best part of ourselves and who we are as New Yorkers and Americans if we said no to a mosque in lower Manhattan. “Let us not forget that Muslims were among those murdered on 9/11, and that our Muslim neighbors grieved with us as New Yorkers and as Americans. We would betray our values and play into our enemies' hands if we were to treat Muslims differently than anyone else. In fact, to cave to popular sentiment would be to hand a victory to the terrorists, and we should not stand for that. "For that reason, I believe that this is an important test of the separation of church and state as we may see in our lifetimes, as important a test. And it is critically important that we get it right. "On Sept. 11, 2001, thousands of first responders heroically rushed to the scene and saved tens of thousands of lives. More than 400 of those first responders did not make it out alive. In rushing into those burning buildings, not one of them asked, 'What God do you pray to?' (Bloomberg's voice cracks here a little as he gets choked up.) 'What beliefs do you hold?' "The attack was an act of war, and our first responders defended not only our city, but our country and our constitution. We do not honor their lives by denying the very constitutional rights they died protecting. We honor their lives by defending those rights and the freedoms that the terrorists attacked. "Of course, it is fair to ask the organizers of the mosque to show some special sensitivity to the situation, and in fact their plan envisions reaching beyond their walls and building an interfaith community. But doing so, it is my hope that the mosque will help to bring our city even closer together, and help repudiate the false and repugnant idea that the attacks of 9/11 were in any ways consistent with Islam. "Muslims are as much a part of our city and our country as the people of any faith. And they are as welcome to worship in lower Manhattan as any other group. In fact, they have been worshipping at the site for better, the better part of a year, as is their right. The local community board in lower Manhattan voted overwhelmingly to support the proposal. And if it moves forward, I expect the community center and mosque will add to the life and vitality of the neighborhood and the entire city." This makes a lot of sense. This is the attitude that needs to be heard and understood by people, not bigoted rantings like those going on in this here thread.

You would know

Case in point, evidence. http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/289856 Stick that on your BBQ...

The link didn't work, because it has commas in it. You have to make an HTML link using the Editor. here it is: Link

No way you will convince me it's the norm. Who does the hiring and firing? You think any management is going to cut off it's own head? No way. Simple logic. And direct experience working in major hospitals, and networking with hundreds of people across Canada has shown me otherwise. But, not surprised that they would bitch about their own situation, the upper echelon, MD's and administrators, while they BBQ and sup with one another. Don't forget to raise the pinky while sipping your mamosas, and bemoaning how you don't make as mush as the CEO of Ontario Power Generation... etc. You don't want to believe it, but just check out the list of the 100-thousand dollar club, provincial report card of all public sector employees making more than $100k. huge list, keeps growing every year, NOT ONLY IN NUMBER OF PEOPLE ON THE LIST, BUT LEVEL OF THEIR SALARIES is going through the roof. Pretty soon, they'll have to call it the 200-thousand dollar club because it's getting ridiculous. Haha, the same people who are in management as CEO's of hospitals also sit on boards for the government, and move around in the highest levels of job bioth within the hospitals and without. Like a bad penny, they just keep turning up in the fanciest of positions. Who is Tom Closson? Who is Alan Hudson? Robert Bell. My advice, stop throwing money at it. The current system is a bottomless hole sucking wheelbarrels of cash. Money is not what's needed.

It's not a dumb question. To paraphrase my favorite a-hole manager- (clears throat) "In this time of fiscal restraint..." Why spend money to build prisons, who are we building them for, when there are other priorities that need the cash, that would arguably serve the public far better. We would like an intelligent answer, Mr. Minister. Oops, sorry no point in asking you. Hey maybe they are doing it to boost the Canadian economy. Part of a grand scheme to invigorate it by creating a whole new industry, American style Prison-Pharmaco-Military-Industrial complex. Shut up and take your pills, or go to jail. It's all for our betterment, really!

Yes you are right, they were enormously successful, far far beyind the mere act of toppling the building and killing several thousand people. Impressive though it was in itself, the repercussions spread out across the western civilization, radicalizing us. But for this second bomb WE are also to blame. Our responses were violently reactionary. With the collapse of those buildings our own culture imploded, and it was done largely by our own hand. The response to 9/11 was over-reaction. It's undersandable to have some kind of military response, go after the culprits but the response was such an over-reaction. We cannot let go of it. Certainly as long as these wars continue to drag on. The war is part of the psychosis that keeps us re-living the event, over and over.

THat would seem to be a good idea in principle, but opens up the question, who's watching the watchers. To some extent these independent groups exist, as with organizations like CCO. Yet it remains inneffective. Corrupt, corrupt, corrupt. And as stated the information used to measure success also gets manipulated. This should not be very surprising, given the amount of money and jobs involved in the system as a whole. As the saying goes, follow the money, and you'll find the criminals. My take on it is that the system needs to be re-structured entirely, so that medical staff have the most say in how frontline operations are to be run. Administration should be confined to counting beans, and nothing more. They should be kept to a minimum level in number and in level of pay. Because only the medical staff have the most important priorities in mind, to provide health care. If a hospital is not doing that, why does it exist? It is the very reason d'etre, and all else is an impediment to that process, including and perhaps even foremost, administration. With the right people in charge, who have got their priorities straight, it will work. It worked in the past.

Oh here's the link- Conservative group to fight ground zero mosque decision

Pat Robertson is organizing a legal challenge to stop plans for the mosque. Several Republicans are also in opposition to this, such as Sarah Palin, and Newt Gingrich. All people that American Woman "understands". Whether they manage to stop the mosque, or not, what will it do to the concept of tolerance for mosques or your average American muslim? Certainly won't be a good thing. But I don't blame ordinary Americans for being confused about their enemies. Thay are bombarded by such a level of bullshit every day, from factions on either side. They don't know their ass from a hole in the ground no more.

Sorry but it is sheer fantasy. Shortages of professional staff, be they doctors or otherwise are also a management issue. In many cases they have been artificially created. Again the draconian business concepts of manipulating supply and demand come into play.

Give it a few decades, and you'll be as jaded as me.

Really? I fixes particle accelerators.

You work at Radio Shack?

Actually most of the things you mentioned are still the realm of fantasy, in terms of providing serious energy at a cost effective price, without completely polluting the planet or creating a serious imbalance in a closed system. But who am I to impose harsh reality on your child like faith in science fiction

Stockwell Day says new prisons needed for 'unreported crimes' Stockwell Day is facing criticism after he suggested that Ottawa needs to spend billions of dollars on new prisons in order to lock up people who commit unreported crimes. When asked by a reporter why the government intends to spend billions of dollars to expand the penitentiary system in the face of falling crime rates, Day replied: "People simply aren't reporting the same way they used to." "I'm saying one statistic of many that concerns us is the amount of crimes that go unreported. Those numbers are alarming and it shows that we can't take a liberal view to crime." ... A StatsCan analyst said the most common reason people give for opting not to call police is because they believe an incident wasn't serious. Another two per cent of respondents said they feared revenge, and one per cent said they thought police could be biased. Harper would do well to keep Day hidden in a closet where his bizarro view of reality can do the party the least amount of harm. Want to make the CPC look like a bunch of idiots? The answer is through Stockwell Day.