Sir Bandelot

Some might say multiculturalism has failed in Canada, but I don't believe at all that it has. People living in distinct cultural groups, or the mosaic concept IS what Canadian style multiculturalism is all about. There is no error here, Jackie Veber. People are allowed, to, even supposed to come here to live and continue enjoying their own cultural practices. The caveat is, within the confines of Canadian law, of course. But the key ingredient that is sometimes lacking yet most important is, tolerance of other cultures, and eventually even appreciation for the other. For it's in this that a real identifiable "Canadian culture" actually exists. In this regard Canada must do a better job educating newcomers about it, because it's what makes this country unique. "Oh Canada... "

The general public has become aware of this imbalance. IOW people know we're being systematically screwed. And I believe, this is very much part of the reason that "consumer confidence" is down. Consumers, the middle class, are not spending what they have left over on stupid trinkets and toys. Certainly not the way we used to a few decades back. The obvious corruption of the system is one factor. Others include fear over polluting the environment, rejection of inferior or tainted goods made in foreign lands. Items made by child labourers for sale cheap at Woolco Woolworths (if there still was a Woolco Woolworths). Let alone the losses in jobs and income right here in North America. People are getting sick of the injustice. Because the current system is consumer based, through mass production, it has depleted its resources and lost the public confidence. Consumerism is becoming a dirty word. Now there is only one thing left for it to consume. The new economy will be based on interest in buying local made goods, made by small manufacturing operations, networked together with other local industries to keep costs low. People want good quality, safe products and fair jobs. People will demand more balance between time spent at work and family life. People will want to make things themselves, fix things, not throw everything away.

No AngusThermopile, they are not always considered regrettable. There have been many incidents in history in which civilians were deliberately targeted. Canada is responsible for the deaths of hundreds or perhaps even thousands of civilians in Afghanistan. It may not have been done deliberately, but was done nonetheless by the use of weapons and targeting of suspected terrorist safehouses. If similar events took place in our own country, such as incidents with police entering the home of suspected criminals, and children in the vicinity were killed by the police, by accident, there would surely be an investigation. But in war, there is far less effort to protect non-combatants. If an operation is in jeopardy due to the presence of civilians, a commander must decide if the mission should go ahead or not. In many cases these will be considered acceptable losses, although "regrettable". And that will be the end of the story.

Yemen will be another cakewalk for big bully USA, to make it feel proud. Invade a country full of emaciated, illiterate drug addicts. "Superpower"...

Good work...

Well I prefer satire to sarcastic insults,which generally abound in the forums. So I'll concede to your method on this one. Thanks, glad to know I'm hovering just ever so slightly above the common detritus...

Not true Wilbur, I've made it perfectly clear that I'm talking about the killing of civilians. I don't criticize soldiers who have to kill someone who threatens them. Or neutralize, terminate, liquidate, whatever. I'm sure MDcancer can find the correct terminology for us, being the cunning linguist that he is. However I will state that ideologically, I am totally against war as it is the most horrifically stupid and evil thing that humans do to one another.

Indeed. Considering the sobriety of the opening post (or rather, complete lack thereof...), jbg should reconsider whether there was any serious invitation for debate, whatsoever.

13) Civilians caught in the crossfire never had a chance.

Of course not. They never target a house with cruise missiles, without checking if there's any non-combatants in there either. I guess you could even say, there is no "co-lateral damage". As I said, dead men tell no tales. Quite fortunately, for people like you...

Yeah a trillion here, a trillion there, pretty soon you're starting to talk about real money...

Lol, was thinking exactly the same thing!

That's easy, because all those people aren't dead yet.

7) The state executes an individual under a rule of law, and after some debate. 8) A soldier executes anonymous persons they have never seen before. There is no interview to establish credentials. 9) After a state execution, evidence can still be examined that might nullify the persons guilt. 10) In war, dead men tell no tales

No, we saw it on Mel Gibson.

"Harper wins 2010"

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I blame the nazis, first and foremost. That is easy to do. What's harder and takes more courage, is to look at what others were also doing, or rather NOT doing. No one helped the Jew. In fact quite the contrary, when the Jew came looking for refuge from the killers, the Allies slammed the doors shut. So I am not taking away from what the killers did. I am showing how the Jew was hated and shunned, around the world. And now you can't say, "We didn't know..." Vague reports from single sources? I thought perhaps the Wiesenthal center would be enough to satisfy you, but in truth I knew better. That's why I already put my hip waders on...

I'm afraid you're not reading very well today. Folks DID know. I proved what you asked. The rest of your diatribe is apologies, from an apologist.

Well the hanging was good enough

Ah, right... Americans can't do anything unless they get paid.

Sure, why not. Light-heartedly criticizing the man who was directly or indirectly responsible for the deaths of thousands, for his poor Segway riding skills, holds a certain poetic justice. Oh the shame of it!!

Why should I bother to do your homework for you? It only takes a few minutes in a google search to come up with all sorts of information. As always, information is buyer-beware, so pick your poison. But at the risk of spoon feeding the ill informed, I will venture into the cess pool and play a while longer. From wiesenthal.com- 19. Did the people of occupied Europe know about Nazi plans for the Jews? What was their attitude? Did they cooperate with the Nazis against the Jews? Answer: In every country they occupied, with the exception of Denmark and Bulgaria, the Nazis found many locals who were willing to cooperate fully in the murder of the Jews. This was particularly true in Eastern Europe, where there was a long standing tradition of virulent antisemitism, and where various national groups, which had been under Soviet domination (Latvians, Lithuanians, and Ukrainians), fostered hopes that the Germans would restore their independence. In several countries in Europe, there were local fascist movements which allied themselves with the Nazis and participated in anti-Jewish actions; for example, the Iron Guard in Romania and the Arrow Guard in Slovakia. On the other hand, in every country in Europe, there were courageous individuals who risked their lives to save Jews. In several countries, there were groups which aided Jews, e.g. Joop Westerweel's group in the Netherlands, Zegota in Poland, and the Assisi underground in Italy. 20. Did the Allies and the people in the Free World know about the events going on in Europe? Answer: The various steps taken by the Nazis prior to the "Final Solution" were all taken publicly and were, therefore, reported in the press. Foreign correspondents commented on all the major anti-Jewish actions taken by the Nazis in Germany, Austria, and Czechoslovakia prior to World War II. Once the war began, obtaining information became more difficult, but reports, nonetheless, were published regarding the fate of the Jews. Thus, although the Nazis did not publicize the "Final Solution," less than one year after the systematic murder of the Jews was initiated, details began to filter out to the West. The first report which spoke of a plan for the mass murder of Jews was smuggled out of Poland by the Bund (a Jewish socialist political organization) and reached England in the spring of 1942. The details of this report reached the Allies from Vatican sources as well as from informants in Switzerland and the Polish underground. (Jan Karski, an emissary of the Polish underground, personally met with Franklin Roosevelt and British Foreign Minister Anthony Eden). Eventually, the American Government confirmed the reports to Jewish leaders in late November 1942. They were publicized immediately thereafter. While the details were neither complete nor wholly accurate, the Allies were aware of most of what the Germans had done to the Jews at a relatively early date. 21. What was the response of the Allies to the persecution of the Jews? Could they have done anything to help? Answer: The response of the Allies to the persecution and destruction of European Jewry was inadequate. Tens of thousands of Jews sought to enter the United States, but they were barred from doing so by the stringent American immigration policy. Even the relatively small quotas of visas which existed were often not filled, although the number of applicants was usually many times the number of available places. Conferences held in Evian, France (1938) and Bermuda (1943) to solve the refugee problem did not contribute to a solution. At the former, the countries invited by the United States and Great Britain were told that no country would be asked to change its immigration laws. Moreover, the British agreed to participate only if Palestine were not considered. At Bermuda, the delegates did not deal with the fate of those still in Nazi hands, but rather with those who had already escaped to neutral lands. It's about common sense. What you are proposing is something like a September 11 conspiracy, where hundreds or even thousands of people were in on it but somehow managed to keep it a secret form the worlds greatest superpowers, and their network of espionage. Believing that, is very naive. But these uncomfortable facts have yet to become fully acknowledged by the west (read, allies...). If Jewish historians and researchers like Wiesenthal center continue their investigations, and petition for information from governments then the full truth will finally come out. We are still too close in time to this disaster to accept our full complicity. Sorry but you'll have to get your own Lotto numbers. I've NEVER played it. I'm not a gambling man...

Not to mention, his Segway riding skills...

Of course carpet bombing Auschwitz would be absurd. there's not many options for right action, once the polecat is in the henhouse. "Finally clue in to what was happening"... I find that doubtful. Do you realize how much espionage was going on at the time?