Sir Bandelot

That is a good point, and I think its because they too are in a war of ideology. Fundamentalists don't really care if someone gets killed, because of "heaven".

The pipeline they want to build so badly, but the gosh darn Taliban keep interfering with their plans. http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...21?hub=Specials "The Turkmenistan-Afghanistan-Pakistan-India (TAPI) pipeline is strongly supported by the U.S. because it would block a competing pipeline from Iran that would bring oil to India and Pakistan. It would also reduce Russia's dominance of the energy sector in Central Asia."

I disagree. There are probably other ways to deal with it than going to the most savage level. I'm sure if our troops get them in the line of sight they will kill them, with conventional weapons. When they hide amongst the people, or when they ARE the people, it gets tough to kill with impunity as you suggest without killing scores of others, women and children too. What have you gained then... in the process you kill the very same people these animals would kill. But I don't understand our strategy, if this has been happening several times in the past, why do they not place armed guards at the girls schools? Our troops are on a mission to hunt the Taliban in the lawless areas, but who is responsible for guarding the developed areas? Wouldn't it make sense to protect development which gives the people a better life, so that they will support the work our troops are doing. Whats it all about, Alfie?

It is horrific. At the very least, post troops and guards in areas that are known to be targeted. Or is that effort only reserved for pipelines

No. Another interpretation is that there has always been one common truth, which humans have worshipped throughout history and given different names to.

Yet pure breed dogs are typically dumber and have unstable personalities. Nothin like a good old mutt. It's like Bush vs. Obama. Ok maybe thats a bad comparison, but you get the idea Seems to me that human meddling with our weird ideas just gets in the way. Nature got us here over a few billion years of evolution, didn't need our help or guidance along the way. And nature allows for some purity, and some mixture. In other words let it happen as it may, without the interference of some human know-it-all. No, not you this time Dancer

Yeah well neither do our leaders... so why don't you take charge, MKnowitall? You know, you got a tongue fancier than a ten dollar whore... Ok let me dumb it down for ya some... insanity is doing the same thing over and over, but expecting different results.

Is it really... I think the people should be the ones to decide what they prefer, not you and I from the comfort of our keyboards. Seems to me one eventually gets weary of constant war, if they ever knew peace at all. Theres the question of being REALISTIC, rather than IDEALISTIC, in terms of expected outcomes. Maybe I read it wrong but the article shows that a separate legal system, sharia law was approved of for this region by the government of Pakistan. It was given as a concession to stop the fighting, not taken in defiance. it was in effect a peace agreement. What happened next is debatable. The Taliban reportedly tried to spread their influence into other regions. This and the pressure by the US administration has forced the Paki government into military action again. Yet they have already conceded that there really can be no lasting victory, by military means. See the definition of insanity...

I see its Reductio ad Nazium time again. My point is questioning the mainstream medias portrayal of the attitude of the general populace in swat valley, that they didn't want the Taliban and now welcome the Pakistani army's attack efforts to get rid of them. Prior to this operation we heard that sharia law was to be implemented there, and it seemed to be hugely popular. "Speaking before an audience of tens of thousands in the Swat Valley town of Mingora on Sunday, cleric Sufi Muhammed declared democracy and Pakistan's judicial system "un-Islamic."" http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/04/2...iban/index.html This set off immediate alarms in the US administration, who strongly opposed allowing such measures. See the part I italicized in my previous post. The response from the US is to be expected... but still does not deny the fact that this is what the people of the region really want, strict muslim law. Most of the media I'm reading wants to cover this up, using quoted from Pakistani opposition parties and government spokesmen. Why did they offer the peace deal? Because they conceded that the fighting would never stop, and the people would accept sharia over constant war. Now under US pressure they return to war. I'm saying the consequences of this flip-flop will further radicalize the population.

Apparently 500,000 people had to flee from the fighting in the SWAT region. But when then the Taliban was there, they did not have to leave. "The plight of those refugees could sap public support for the kind of sustained action against an increasingly interlinked array of Islamist extremists that the cash-strapped country's Western backers want to see. Despite claims of success in an operation that began after heavy U.S. pressure, the army said it had yet to start operations in the region's main town of Swat, where witnesses say Taliban insurgents are in control and preparing for what could be bloody door-to-door fighting." http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30699634/

This troll has wasted enough disk space already, with his convoluted logic and insults... = ignore

Maybe an Asian will never "bond" with a Tamil, but so what? As long as they leave each other be and live peacefully under the law there won't be a problem. They don't need to give each other hugs in the supermarket. Around here we teach our kids to accept other people, even if they're from a different culture. It's obvious you have a problem with that. But thats just your problem. Who cares

Most people couldnt care less what religion their neighbors are, what foods they like to eat or what language they speak amongst their family, so long as they MIND THEIR OWN BUSINESS. Even if they do care, the problem only begins when they start to criticize the other person. I think its fine to have your own opinions, no one says that you have to like it, but if thats the case, keep it to yourself. If someone wants to start something, in other words if someone can't shut up, then there's going be a problem. And for the millions of people who live in cities, in diverse groups, the vast majority don't want any problems, just to live their life and raise their families. Its the ones who think that they have to tell other people how to live, who want to force their views on other people in the community, who are the problem. Its not the fact that there are differences, but that there are some people who can't handle it. Its the intolerance of a minority of narrow minded individuals.

That's right, cataloging is what good biologists like Darwin do. All thanks to Aristotle

Exactly, which is why you are a closet liberal, sadly you don't even know it. Hey I went to school in Toronto in the 1970's, we had black and asian students in the classroom then. No one thought it was abnormal. (Except, maybe, your Dad). Despite that, there were no school shootings then. I wonder whats with that? Since in your view this came about as a consequence of diversity...

Thats liberalism. Thats racism. You got that part right, but you insist on your rights to say anything you want, anytime you want. Being a self-declared right winger does not preclude you from having a diseased liberal mind.

""Aristotle is the earliest natural historian whose work has survived in some detail.... His description of the hectocotyl arm was about two thousand years ahead of its time, and widely disbelieved until its rediscovery in the nineteenth century. He separated the aquatic mammals from fish, and knew that sharks and rays were part of the group he called Selachē (selachians). Aristotle's views on the physical sciences profoundly shaped medieval scholarship, and their influence extended well into the Renaissance, although they were ultimately replaced by Newtonian Physics. In the biological sciences, some of his observations were confirmed to be accurate only in the nineteenth century." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aristotle#Biology_and_medicine And who do you suppose THAT could be? Who confirmed scientific (biology) theories of Aristotle in the 19th century? Seems old Darwin himself had something to say about Aristotle- "Charles Darwin's famous 1882 letter, in response to a ... recent translation of Aristotle's Parts of Animals... reflected an authentic, and substantial, increase in Darwin's already high respect for Aristotle, as a result of a careful reading both of Ogle's introduction and of more or less the portion of Ogle's translation which Darwin says he has read. Darwin's admiration... was most likely the result specifically of Darwin's late discovery that the man he already knew as one of the greatest observers that ever lived was also the ancient equivalent both of the great modern systematist and of the great modern advocate of comparative functional explanation." http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=1551904

Words can cause psychological damage that lasts a long time. I've seen people in the workplace get a nervous breakdown, when they are bullied constantly by the my a-hole of a boss. He doesn't hit anyone though. But he will not stop. Even his kid was institutionalized, for a while. You think words are harmless, because your a bleeding ass liberal who wants freedom of speech, without responsibility. But in my corner, we teach respect. You want to call me out, act like a jackass, I'm gonna make you suffer. Because some people are too stupid to learn respect any other way. And I believe, they truly need that... you whip a dogs ass it won't come back barkin Not sure why you think that. I read about a lotta white boys been doin the shooting too. See, your problem is you complain about political correctness, about granting equality to other cultures but then you want to hide behind that political correctness to mouth off your prejudiced views about them. Well you can't have it both ways dude. You make no sense

Sure, ok, fine. You found the speck in my eye. He was a man of his times in many ways, limited to what was observable without the benefit of technology. But his most valuable contribution was not in cosmology but in ethics, logic, politics, and arts. To say he was "destroyed" is truly a sad dismissal of a man who was one of the greatest thinkers ever in history. But I know, he's so yesterday.

We've got street music here... some rubby with an out of tune violin... I can't stand it. And the guy who thinks he's Garth Brooks, with the cowboy hat, leather jacket and tassels. Lord, give me strength... I am a musician, have been since I was a teen so my ear is always listening to whats going on in modern music. I'm not putting the kids down, I love to see them pick up an instrument. But thats not what I'm talking about. That's small scale stuff, and now seems too few and far between. I'm talkin about the state of the art. Every generation had their thing going. Today its mainly a bunch of boy bands that are put together by an executive producer. My kids don't even listen to it, but they know all the old tunes.

Words cazuse harm. Some people just need a shot in the head, once in a while

Hey what was the guy supposd to do, say "Oh I'm not allowed to use my fists, they are a deadly weapon... hit me again"? Baaa

"Goodbye, Ruby Tuesday..." Why are you peple going on and on about this. This is the state of Cand-ian politics

Actually thousands of years ago. But I'm not sure what point your trying to make here... thats like saying, Isaac Newton should be considered as a fool now, because we have Albert Einstein. We all owe something to the Greeks, for their astounding depth of perception about the human condition, done purely by abstract reasoning. They were the pioneers, their ideas are largely still valid and they did it without the benefits of modern technology. Even what I know barely scratches the surface of the immense amount of knowledge that they and others in ancestry had. No man is an island. A well-known quote by your Newton was, "If I have seen farther, its because I stood on the shoulders of giants." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standing_on_t...lders_of_giants Perhaps you are simply not ready to study the Greeks yet. Today many people are easily distracted by the bombardment of mass media communications. TV and computers take up most of the spare time of people today, who no longer care to involve themselves with the arts. Notice for example, how the music scene and movies seems to have died, all that we have now is older tunes redone and covers of old ideas coming out of hollywood. It's a sign of cultural stagnation. People no longer strive to be artistic, or study classical philosophy. Today our knowledge extends only so far as the ability to do our jobs, then we zone out on the TV or internet. Like your name we are in a cybercoma. This de-evolution, cultural and intellectual decay, something Darwin probably would warn against as it cannot last for long- survival of the fittest.

Because you're completely messhuginah