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Umm, there is no suprime situation going on here. These are high quality mortgages NOT in default that the CMHC has already insured as a result of the fact that Canada precisely does not have a subprime problem. Your ignorance is astounding. Aren't you embarrassed?

I have nothing to do with real state. Which taxpayers are footing the bill? Why shouldn't these people have gotten mortgages? Is there some indication they are unwilling to pay? As far as I have heard, mortgage default rates are at historical lows.

It makes the endorsements all the more impressive, doesn't it?!

And you can't back up that it isn't accurate.

Thanks for coming out.

At least we've established that you agree with my fundamental point. Thanks again.

So? Does Molson not employ Canadians? Do you have a citation for this fact? So? Much of it does. Do you have a cite for the claim that not everything goes back into the Canadian economy? I would assume so. Do you have a cite? And that we get billions back in return, yes. Do you have a cite that it costs us millions so that corporations can stay in business? Cite? There are lots of things that are and are not popular. It doesn't mean it's right. A long time ago it was popular to segregate Japanense people. Cite? Are you trying to tell me that there would be the same corporate situation in Canada no matter the level of taxes? In that case, why not tax them 95%? I would assume so, but do you hve a cite? Cite? Cite?

OK. Because I just pointed you to a recent labour survey that effectively confirms the numbers, if not exactly then certainly to the same degree. Of course, that was never the point. And on that note, what about the point I was making, that doesn't depend on what the figure is or might be, whether it's 50% or 100%? Surely you would agree that if we eliminated all corporations in Canada we would have a bit of a problem on our hands? You can focus on 90%, I will focus on the fact that we are the #1 economy in the G7 for a reason, despite the best efforts of the left to turn this nation into a disastrous cesspool of recession and unemployment.

Wrong about what?

Really? The LPC is down at least 5 points in Ontario from 2006. The chances of a LPC minority are less than a CPC majority, and significantly so.

As I suspected, no poin here. Run along.

Of course not. Private sector employment is about 65-70% of all employment (check the latest labour survey). A significant number of public sector jobs are directly related to the private sector. For example, many people employed by the government in taxation, regulation, policymaking, enforcement etc. would not exist if corporations were to disappear. I am sure that this statistic isn't even out there, but anyone with any sensibility (i.e., not you) would understand that corporations are the primary source of employment in this country. The fundamental point that I have made doesn't depend on whether it's 90.01627% or some other figure. Since you're focusing on this so much, it's clear you agree. Heck, how can you not? Try again.

So... do you have a point to make here or not?

I should also add, that many public sector jobs would not exist but for the private sector, i.e., corporations. From regulation to taxation to a whole host of support sectors.

The claim was to illustrate that the vast majority of workers are employed by companies. You don't agree? Well, then, who do they work for?

Yep, you're really calling me out. Glad to see you agree with me on my fundamental point, though. Move along now to another thread, teflon dobbin.

We need all the corporations we can get in Canada. They are a very big reason why our economy is the best in the G7. Higher taxes and other uncompetitive policies will drive this economy into great depths. Flaherty was 100% correct on this point. If we have no corporations, we have no jobs. Though I guess communism is sort of what you want.

The point is, most people work for corporations. It's up to you to prove me wrong. The point is valid notwithstanding your pathetic attempts to debate this rather insignificant point of accuracy, which was never intended as a precise point in fact.

Do you dispute that the vast majority of people work for corporations, whether it be their own businesses or others? Take away government employees and, well, pretty much everyone else works for a corporation. I suppose if you want to get technical, there are partnerships, joint ventures and sole proprietorships, but that is effectively dictated by size, project and red tape. Do you have a cite that 90% of workers do not work for corporations? If not, your objection is hat-talking.

Corporations should pay zero taxes. People should pay taxes. Of course, no one wants that, right? Is your solution to drive all corporations out of the country? That will do wonders for employment and our economy.

Sad.

That's right. No need to strategically vote people, vote with your heart.

I assume the rules that disallow dissemination of results to provinces where the voting has not ended are still in place. Does this apply to the Internet? Will it be possible for us to get live streaming of results somewhere online, if we're unable to tune in on the local stations?

Nanos has lead up from 4 to 6: http://www.nanosresearch.com/election/CPAC...er-12-2008E.pdf http://www.nikonthenumbers.com/topics/show/110

Interesting editorial from the Toronto Star: http://www.thestar.com/comment/article/515896