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12 hours ago, scribblet said:
Bernier made a mistaking in calling his former colleages/supporters morally corrupt. He should've taken the high road, not the low road making a more dignified departure.
That was a huge gaffe which will come back to haunt him.
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8 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said:
This looks like another example of poor impulse control on Bernier’s part.
From what I have heard to date from talking heads on TV news channels, that's the common viewpoint.
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13 minutes ago, scribblet said:
True, he is very hard to listen to and understand in English anyway.
True, just as Scheer's French is hard to understand.
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Anyone think Trudeau will call a snap election to take advantage of Conservative Party upheaval?
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22 minutes ago, scribblet said:
This is all playing into Trudeau's politics of division and name calling.
I'm not so sure scribblet. As they say in advertising, all publicity is good publicity. It's a bonus to have some of this stuff spill over into the public domain. Let mainstream Canadians have a gander at the politics of the day at work.
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37 minutes ago, Argus said:
Scheer is not Trudeau by a long shot. The problem is the Conservative Party largely ignores its conservative base because they have nowhere else to go. I mean, are people concerned about immigration and refugees going to vote Liberal in protest? So they tuck those people safely in the 'won' column, and work to get others from the mainstream. And that means moving further to the left. You can complain about this strategy, and I do, but it's realistic. Opposing immigration, or even calling for lower numbers is extremely risky given the nature of our progressive media. I mean, just look at the reaction to Bernier for even daring to suggest there could be too much diversity, which, by inference only, was seen as perhaps questioning immigration.
Okay, this would give them somewhere else to go. I concede the point. That might well have an impact on Conservative party policy on certain matters. But if Bernier actually succeeds in attracting large numbers of mostly conservative voters the only people who will be celebrating will be the Liberals. I guarantee you the people in the PMO are high-fiving each other, laughing, clapping at every mention of his name, and popping Champaign corks at this news. So you might want to consider if you ought to be celebrating too.
You make good points Argus, although in my opinion in a convoluted way. Believe me, I'm far from celebrating at this stage. This breakaway conservative party is far from a fait accompli. Just as when the present party had growing pains, so would a nascent conservative minded party. Let's give it some time to either laud it or damn it.
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9 minutes ago, scribblet said:
Trudeau was seen coming out of the House grinning from ear to ear,
At least Trudeau had something genuine to grin about. As for Scheer he was grinning even as he was criticizing Bernier for "putting his ambitions before the party". Scheer does not exude confidence or genuine emotion.
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6 minutes ago, Argus said:
And in every election thereafter if you and Max have their way.
I'm an optimist. I'm seeing this development as positive. As I said in another post, Scheer as PM would be Trudeau redux. That scenario makes me gag.
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NEW CONSERVATIVE PARTY. I'm on board. Max was my first choice for leader. This news conference cements my choice. I'll be sending Max a hefty donation. In the meantime, resigning myself to another Trudeau victory in 2019.
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There's also speculation he will switch to provincial politics. Max is scheduled to make a statement at 1 pm.
Interesting he is not at the Conservative party convention in Halifax but stayed back in Ottawa.
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All indications are that Mad Max will be slamming the door on the Conservative party and sit as an independent. Can't say I blame him. Electing Scheer as PM would be Trudeau redux. Very little choice left for a large segment of the electorate. The coming campaign will be one to watch closely.
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56 minutes ago, GostHacked said:
So why are the Saudi's on the Human Rights council at the UN??
Same reason Cuba and Venezuela and similar countries have seats at the UNHRC. What a joke.
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15 hours ago, scribblet said:
They are right, he did sound crazy, maybe he needs more time off.
Certainly it is Trudeau who needs a wedge issue in order to frame the election campaign in his preferred terms eg "enlightened" vs the "bigots". It is divisive and offensive but serves his purpose, one which much of the media caters to.
I was surprised to learn the woman involved is 74 years old. Apparently she is considering legal action against Trudeau and the RCMP officers over the altercation. In an interview yesterday she said she still has bruises on her arm which is still painful. She says the injury was caused when she was manhandled by the 2 RCMP officers. She said she is seeing her physician today regarding the injury. This not yet available in the English media.
Trudeau may have picked on the wrong target for his over the top reaction to a perfectly valid question from a citizen.
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2 minutes ago, scribblet said:
He was very derogatory only giving liberal talking points as answers"
A Journal de Montreal opinion piece describes Trudeau as becoming "fou", meaning crazy as he responded loudly to the woman. It was a spectacle, not something you would expect from a Canadian Prime Minister.
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1 minute ago, Slick said:
We have people complaining about aspects of this government that are far superior to the previous. Hence, reference to that government are required.
Scheer will now use immigration as a wedge issue like Harper tried to do with the niqab ban. I find the leveraging racial fears for political gain to be distasteful.
It's normal for people to hold a current government to account because the previous government is no longer able to put its stamp on current government policy and spending. Mainstream Canadians assess the government in power not the one they discarded in the last election.
Speaking of immigration as a wedge issue, it is Trudeau that is setting the tone by calling a citizen racist and intolerant simply for asking a relevant question regarding expenditures for illegal migrants. You are blind if you can't see that.
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48 minutes ago, Slick said:
Some of these posts seem completely ludicrous. The press and public have infinitely more access to the PM than under Harper.
Slick, Harper is long gone. I suspect if Trudeau was Blackbeard reincarnated you would still defend him because he's not Harper. Get over Harper and tell us what you really think of Trudeau the Impaler.
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Still, even a poll skeptic such as myself was surprised to read in The Globe and Mail this morning that Ekos's Frank Graves is simultaneously polling for the taxpayer-supported CBC and providing partisan political advice to the Liberals: "Frank Graves of Ekos Research … has told the Grits that the wedge politics of the Conservatives provide them with an opportunity to stake out a stark alternative. Stop worrying about the West, he's told them. No need to fear polarizing the debate. It's what worked for Mr. Chrétien against Preston Manning and Stockwell Day.
In his advice, Mr. Graves could hardly have been more blunt. 'I told them that they should invoke a culture war. Cosmopolitanism versus parochialism, secularism versus moralism, Obama versus Palin, tolerance versus racism and homophobia, democracy versus autocracy. If the cranky old men in Alberta don't like it, too bad. Go south and vote for Palin.' The Grits haven't told him whether they favour this approach or not. But they are keen on projecting a more activist agenda for the party."
Did Graves influence the Liberal campaign and governing style? Or did the Liberals come up with this strategy all by themselves?
Graves subsequently apologized for his incendiary comments but too late, the ink was set.
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19 minutes ago, turningrite said:
Trudeau and his cronies probably aren't racists. Rather, I believe they're racialists, who exploit racial and cultural categorization and division for political purposes, as Bernier has accused them of doing.
There it is. Trudeau and the Liberals have launched a culture war as a means to denigrating political opponents as its main strategy for reelection. This has probably in the works almost as soon as they were elected.
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11 hours ago, Centerpiece said:
"Politics of fear" is one of those shallow come-backs from the Left - and especially our rudderless Liberal Party led by Captain Clarabell. Canadians are not "afraid". There is no "fear". There are only very real - and very immediate concerns about this government's uncaring and mismanaged refugee policies.
QuoteThis constant referencing of “the politics of fear” is itself a form of fear-mongering, where Trudeau and his top advisers want you to believe that there are mean and nasty people lurking behind every corner that you must fear and that only he can protect you from.
With this in mind, he needs villains. He wants to make bad guys out of every person who asks a challenging question about the current influx of illegal border crossers or, say, Islamist terror. (He did this to Scheer back in December, calling him Islamophobic for asking if Trudeau had a plan to tackle returning ISIS fighters.)
And who can forget the Liberal attack ad against Harper regarding "soldiers in our streets"?
QuoteSoldiers ad
By far the most controversial ad was the following: "Stephen Harper actually announced he wants to increase military presence in our cities. Canadian cities. Soldiers with guns. In our cities. In Canada."
This ad was never broadcast as an ad on television. It appeared on the Liberal Party of Canada website, before being widely replayed in the news media. This drew widespread criticism from commentators that the Liberals were scaremongering, seeming to suggest that the Conservatives wanted to use the military against Canadian civilians. The ad was then pulled from the website.[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Liberal_Party_of_Canada_election_ads#Soldiers_ad
Be afraid, be very afraid.
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3 minutes ago, Argus said:
What kind of a person puts any thought into what anything costs anyway!?
Certainly not the kind of person that has daddy's trust fund to fall back on when needed.
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This is not right. When I become old and withering I want my turn at hallway medicine, and if I'm lucky a long term bed in a hospital ward. Guess now I'll have to compete with newly arrived old and withering immigrants for a spot.
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Just now, h102 said:
Almost all the people coming from Europe were illiterate back then.
Do you have a site to back up your statement?
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11 minutes ago, h102 said:
No one ever dare ask what was the costs of resettling the waves of 10 million plus illiterate European migrants.
Waves of 10 million + is quite a few European illiterates. Do you have a site to support your statement?
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It was just a matter of time before this matter was reported outside Canada.
QuoteMr Trudeau was speaking at a corn roast about 50km (30 miles) south of Montreal when he was interrupted by a heckler.
A woman repeatedly shouted questions at the prime minister about costs relating to an influx of asylum seekers entering the country.
Critics have accused Mr Trudeau of going too far with his response.
The prime minister did not respond directly to the criticism on Monday, but said he will "be very clear when people are trying to push politics of fear and indeed, intolerance".
"That's something Canadians expect of me," he said.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45250920
Asking the PM about costs related to illegal migrants is not "politics of fear and intolerance".
The more I see Trudeau in action, the more I think he lives in an alternate universe.
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Québec Provincial Election
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With 5 weeks to go until the October 1 election, the latest poll shows Philippe Couillard`s Parti Libéral du Québec (PLQ) trailing François Legault`s Coalition Avenir Québec (CAQ). Legault is leading as best leader. The other parties, including the Parti Québecois (PQ), are not in the running. In terms of appetite for change, 83% want a change in government.
http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/elections-quebec-2018/201808/23/01-5193963-sondage-ipsos-la-presse-la-caq-part-en-tete.php
Sensing impending defeat, Couillard is desperate to improve the PLQ`s numbers and win votes, so he has promised a cheque of $150.00 to $300.00 per child.
It`s interesting to note that the CAQ has many of the characteristics of a conservative party.
A win by the CAQ and a PLQ defeat would set an interesting tone to next year`s federal election. Certainly not something that would be welcome by Trudeau and his Liberals.