Guthrie

Well, except for the pollution caused when we generate electricity. Will acid rain take the shine off of an electric car? The simple answer is that we should generate electricity without causing pollution. Why do you guys have to make the ugliest and dumbest arguments in defense of poisoning the planet. Acid Rain? stop making it - and that's just as easy as making vehicles clean - it just requires the political will to do so - we have the technology already

lying? who was lying? if there is punishment, then you guys can line up and take it or you can weasel around in your pathetic denials me? I have only told the truth. Sorry, if you guys can't deal with it.

Electric cars are really nothing more than glorified golf carts. That's the only reason they might be cheaper. From a practical stand point they're not worth a damn. I'll add expensive snake oil to my original comment. Two hundred and fifty miles to the charge. I'm going to assume that's not driving it at night or with the heater or air conditioning running. How far does it go then. Even if it those items weren't running it would take 8 hours of charging on the way, just to drive it one way to Vancouver. I posted up the URL for the Tesla in response to the moronic claim that electric cars are no "nothing more than glorified golf carts" The Tesla is more like a Ferrari race car than a golf cart charging time? night driving? well, check the URL for that too - but be prepared for a surprise --- the claim Even if it those items weren't running it would take 8 hours of charging on the way, just to drive it one way to Vancouver. - is sadly misinformed: So, that deals with the dumbass golf cart comments now, about the price --- considering the performance of the car, it is IMHO priced competitively for it's class - however, with positive govt involvement, tax breaks, subsidies, investment in technology ... that price could easily be cut in half, even today ---- bottom line is, we can have, in very short order - a variety of different vehicles which run pollution free all that is necessary is the will to do so --- and an electorate smart enough to demand help from our governments

Are you talking about the "Marxist one world government" conspiracy I hear so much of these days? No. What about this? How Many Climate Scientists Were Involved With Writing the 2007 IPCC Statement For Policymakers? Canadian Blue are you curious? look on the document -- but, no, it doesn't matter

Electric cars are really nothing more than glorified golf carts. That's the only reason they might be cheaper. From a practical stand point they're not worth a damn. http://www.teslamotors.com/index.php?js_enabled=1 time for you to wake up to reality

We have it right now. We just need to adjust the government corporate welfare and we can pick among fuels - electric car can be cheaper to own and run than gas powered. So can biodiesel or propane.

But that's just not true. You just made it up. I'm all for technological progress; it's just that I realize that technological progress isn't going to come along by shutting done industry and wearing hemp sandals. Can you point to one instance of me claiming I'm against technological progress? Here or on any other BB? Just one instance? If not, it would behoove you to stfu and go back to arguing that there are more american and british nazis than german nazis. No, I made up nothing. Fools who can't see the future are not the ones who will prosper from cleaning up the environment but that's their loss.

Then please educate me woody. Tell me where you think the term came from. Who were the Luddites and what did they do? I'm all ears. No, your mostly ars**ole. Luddites are fools, like you, who attempt to stop technological progress for fear it will hurt them. Well, that's kind of true in an historical sort of way, but I don't see anyone trying to stop technological progress except the folks whop want to shut down factories in favor of hemp sandals and communal living. I don't see me or anyone else on this side of the debate saying we should halt technological progress, do you? Oh, and be careful or figleaf will report you for pottymouth. you don't see because you're blind --- the future technology will be, by necessity, found in sustainable energy, delaying the onset of the new paradigm currently presents a horrendous cost and luddite fools, like you, are doing everything you can to prevent the technological progress that comes to our aid

Then please educate me woody. Tell me where you think the term came from. Who were the Luddites and what did they do? I'm all ears. No, your mostly ars**ole. Luddites are fools, like you, who attempt to stop technological progress for fear it will hurt them.

You, apparently, don't know the meanings of, 'Luddite.'

If you want a real laugh, read Kissinger's latest book --- the nicknames he had for Richard Nixon are very revealing - "meatball brain," and, "our drunken friend," are the two that struck me the funniest.

You have not a clue what I've said nor have you taken the opportunity to actually learn something --- this, I judge by your little fit here -- YOU not just often but almost exclusively post without thinking. I am sorry of nothing I have posted on this matter as I have posted the truth. Nor will you hatefilled racists get any slack from me. Peddle your lies about Muslims elsewhere - they are no better than their counterpart lies about Jews your counterparts peddled in the 30's BTW, this strike out of posts you quote is disrespectful and insulting to the posters. You should consider stopping before Figleaf reports you. go ahead and cry your silly little heart out

cleaning the environment is not a cost but a money making opportunity --- the luddites who are trying to stop the march of progress have hounded and hurt mankinds progress from the beginning, it seems, only the talking points change no, men were not given wings by god; but, by god, we still fly what do they now claim? if god wanted us to live on earth he would have given us brains? Well, maybe he would have given brains to everybody and not just, "the granola gang"

that is a LIE

Na·zi (nät'sē, nāt'-) Pronunciation Key n. pl. Na·zis 1. A member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party, founded in Germany in 1919 and brought to power in 1933 under Adolf Hitler. 2. often nazi An adherent or advocate of policies characteristic of Nazism; a fascist. and did you bother reading the other definitions from other reference books?

ok, you're excused

They are all the same thing, how do you not get that? They certainly are NOT the same thing. how could you not get that? hahahaha!! They spy another meteor coming? what nonsense! Put the Star down and turn off the CBC. It will be ok.. there there.. says the guy who checks under his bed for terrorists

so, you want a guarantee?? OK, here's your guarantee, if we simply continue on in the current manner, humanity will become extinct quit kidding yourself -- we have some wonderful potentials but there has never been any undertaking by men that began with the assurance of a, "scientifically accepted fix" and what we have is much better a motivation, a scientifically accepted necessity

go peddle it in Bulgaria

I propose what I said, "to re-double our efforts to do what we can -- and explore the science with the put-a-man-on-the-moon urgency JFK sparked" make it not just a national but an international priority - much CAN be done and all that is now necessary is the will to do it

no, why would anyone think The Bulgarian National Socialist Party was in anyway associated with the alliance between Bulgaria and Hitler --- get real

You have not a clue what I've said nor have you taken the opportunity to actually learn something --- this, I judge by your little fit here -- YOU not just often but almost exclusively post without thinking. I am sorry of nothing I have posted on this matter as I have posted the truth. Nor will you hatefilled racists get any slack from me. Peddle your lies about Muslims elsewhere - they are no better than their counterpart lies about Jews your counterparts peddled in the 30's

maybe you should scrub a little of the whitewash away Link

this simply is not true -- and the issue is not merely what happens, "in the next 15 to 20 years" certainly, drastic measures are very much needed - and yes, we cannot prevent some damage to human societies - but the real way we must face this issue is not to give up - but to re-double our efforts to do what we can -- and explore the science with the put-a-man-on-the-moon urgency JFK sparked

... are they trying to prevent panic? ... The fact that they aren't trying to bring science forward showing that minimizing concern is more appropriate means that they accept the IPCC scientists conclusions. Perhaps it is only that the longer we can continue to milk the existing system the more toys we can get before we die. I guess.... depending on the toys, eh? I think you were right the first time - a handful of nations - oh hell, it's not a handful of nations, it's the Buschistas and their cohorts in the oil, coal, pollution and greed industries - and they are not concerned about panic, I mean, they live to create panic, they just don't want their tacitly accepted ownership of the energy industry challenged. New energy technologies threaten to take away the power of the Saudis and the Texans, they can't have that - and they are willing to risk the lives of all living things in pursuit of their avarice.