madmax

Well said.

I disagree. Coalitions are infact popular with the public, but the CPC made an excellent attack against the coalition. People who have had Provinces that have held coalitions prefer them and their outcomes. Shortly after the coaliton ends, one of the parties in the coalition usually ends up with a Majority government. And quite frankly, if parties stood up, and formed a coalition, that could last 2 years, and govern responsibly people would be happier and better off then the threat of elections everytime a poll goes up a point. If you are facing a negative atmosphere but have the power to run a coalition, and govern effectively, it should never be overlooked as an option. Part of government is to cooperate and part is to lead, regardless of public opinion, because public opinion is often popular opinion which can change. What you might have confused, is that the public was against "This coalition" which had Dion as the front man as the interim leader until the LPC could find one. That was a big flaw in the LPC decision to leave Dion in charge when he had years to prove himself capable and couldn't. Just about any Liberal could have pulled off the coalition and shut down the CPC attack strategy. Alot of the public are now wondering why Harpered bothered with an election, or why the coalition was so bad, when they are now faced with another election. Given the most recent outcomes of Minority governments, the public is going to accept a coalition of more of these posturing elections, that are being held every year. While the CPC may have tarnished the word coalition, there will be little doubt that there will be a cooperative government should another minority government be chosen. The Joe Clark method of governing as if one has a majority while in minority is wearing thin on the public and the public doesn't trust any of the current parties or leaders to give any one group a majority government.

OLEG STAYS!!! Whether I read his posts or not. A fixture that I like on MLW.

I was pulling your leg, but forgot the in this case. Agreed. Considering that is the view Harper and the CPC held for the LPC and their leaders, it would come as no suprise that the CPC consider all opposition parties weak. Infact he isn't as worried about the election as he was when the Coalition was going to replace him in Government. If you recall correctly, I supported the coalition, and NOT the choice of Dion to head it up because I felt he was a useless twit who would blow it. Which he did. For the record, the LPC walked away from their signed deal to have a free ride voting with the CPC. There was a choice available and agreed upon which allowed the charade of LPC support to end. 9 Months later, we are heading into an election, which is likely to produce the similar results. The free ride the LPC took was with the CPC driving. If the NDP had a free ride at least they were driving their own car. Supporting the bill would not have brought down the government. Shorten your next reply to WILL TOO, and I can say NO IT WON'T. LOL. An Election is what Liberals want when Liberals are orchestrating it. An Election is what Conservatives want when conservatives are orchestrating it. The public wants government to DO SOMETHING.

Yes All parties have offered the CPC a lifeline. The LPC supported the CPC. All parties have offered a minimum threshold. The Lowest threshold has been the LPC from 2006 to 2009. The LPC have offered that there is NO Negotiating for support. The free ride is over and they aren't offering a fare rate. The NDP has a fare charge is lower then the current LPC UNOBTAINIUM now being offered but too rich a price for the CPC. Neither Harpers history or Ignatieffs history offers any level of trust. It's the CPC that have to budge, and with a No Negotiation policy from the LPC, and no desire to work with the opposition parties....................> We are going to election alert. The CPC are going to attempt to handle the LPC without dealing with the NDP or the BQ for that matter. The LPC are going to have to vote against the Populart Home Renovation Program. Actually, I wanted the LPC to pass the EI reform bill, which wouldn't have brought down the government. And I expect the LPC to oppose bills and amendbills that are bad. And if they choose not to, then they are responsible for those Bills as passed by them. Yup. 1)No 2) Because I am one of 30 Million Canadians sick to death of posturing by parties to create phoney situations in order to call an election for their benefit not mine. I expect the government to govern and act responsibly. We didn't see that last September, and I am on record as being against that election rigging as well. Fortin no Moonbox

The only data that appears out on this poll is this part. I can't recall the NDP polling in 19%. The range is normally 13% to 18%. The two main parties are still neck in neck. I'd toss the NDP figure out, much like I didn't believe the number from one poll that had the CPC at 39% when everyother poll showed a virtual dead heat.

That is the intent of the LPC propoganda machine, beginning with the LPC staffers a week ago. Taking a page from the Paul Martin Liberals, and the Chretian Liberals, the intent is to scoop up as many NDP swing voters as possible by attacking the NDP and throwing the shit against the fan to see what sticks. I'm saying if the topic hasn't hit the NDP partisans on babble, then it's purely Liberal spin that has yet to spread out into the discussion forums and the mainstream. If they haven't gone all apeshit, and some here suggesting using the word Harper is enough to get banned from there, then really, what is happening is that the Liberals are blowing smoke.Liberals are the ones pushing this, it appears to be part of the focus of the Liberal Campaign to smear the CPC/NDP together in order to get the monkey off their back. Don't confuse reality with propoganda. So much for the wave of hysteria. I see a CPC sweep except for one seat based on your analysis of outrage.. LOL

The CPC are raising taxes by increasing the Catchment area of the GST through Provincial Bribery. It is very important for the CPC to increase our taxes to reduce the deficit and pay down the debt.

Liberal did it getting ready for their campaign. Its goes along with the script and messaging they want to send the public. Well, the answer to that question is on babble. And the results have been, pure apathy. More talk on the Bryant Criminal Negligence causing death, about 400 comments worth, compared to a handful here and virtually no talk of the election threat, or any of the posturing by political parties. Infact when I last check the only thread on the possibility of election had 8 comments. Red Sweep in Manitoba.

Election is coming. NDP indicated they don't support the CPC or their direction BQ indicated they don't support the CPC or their direction LPC have choosen to no longer support the CPC. CPC unlikely to adopt any NDP policies to obtain their support CPC unlikely to adopt pro Quebec Policies to get BQ support. The game of chicken is between two parties. The LPC and the CPC. If Liberal Non Confidence resolution attacks the NDP in order to get them to not support it, then the LPC will have technically backed off. But my take is The die is cast and neither party will adjust the steering wheel. EDAY IN NOVEMBER>

That's powerful.

This guy is hopeless.

I join jdobbin in the griping over the hypocrisy. I have no intention of praising the Senate.

Yeah... typing ahead of myself. PET. And the Constitution Act of 1982 Depression. Some in the west would call that the NEP, those in the east refer to it as the 82 recession.

The Constitution was created during a depression by Trudeau. The Constitution was tinkered with by Mulroney twice, once in an upturn and once in a downturn. Opening up the Constitution is just an ugly act. An act people would prefer to avoid, then the LOUDEST people to scream when the CPC appoints are LIBERALS and the LOUDEST people to scream when the LPC appoints are CONSERVATIVES. You started this thread, because you wanted it to be an issue. Now you wish it to go away because you have a new set of talking points for the upcoming Election showdown. The Economy is in a recession all on its own. However, if we are going to open the constitution, when the shit hits the fan, Abolition will find its way to the top of the chart amongst the publice once the squabbling begins. Traditional Liberals enjoy their patronage appointments and having the cow pasture handy for their friends. They do not like it when the Conservatives sneak in and milk it.

Actually he appears like a Bush Neo Con supporting US imperialism. However, it does put him with Tony Blair .. the Poodle.

You suggested that an election, such as last years creates economic growth.I fully and completely disagree with you. I will agree that an election campaign creates short term employment. As we are well aware, the economy can grow while employment declines and visa versa.

It whopper day.

Ignatieff like Harper/Flaherty are relying heavily on the increased catchment area of the HST when applied to Ontario, British Columbia and possibly according to jdobbin, Manitoba. This will provide some of the increased revenue.

Same goes for Senate Reform... thus you support status quo and can Enjoy Harpers appointments to your hearts content.As for the Economy in the dumps.. the Liberals have voted against EI reform and when they voted for it, they walked away. As for the Economy, the Liberal and Conservative vision on the Economy is the same.

Better idea. Elect a Liberal government and they can appoint Liberal Partisan Hacks. The Senate: Working Hard for Canadians 72 days a year.

Just so I understand... Increase Spending to stimulate the economy, but make cuts, to eliminate the deficit. Sounds like Bullshit.

There are lots of changes to EI. More clawbacks, hooks and stick it to yahs, then you can shake a stick at.One Conservative (Card Carrying Riding Association) Pals of mine, went BALLISTIC when his time came up. ZIP ZIP ZOOM TO THE MP!!!! YOU HAVE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS>>> AT LEAST FOR ME>>> THIS IS WRONG!!! My friend couldn't care how many weeks or how little EI pays "IF" eligible until it was his turn. Then it became important. THe most important thing on his mind. Not 15 minutes pass from his EI Rejection before on his way to the MP.

I'd agree with that. Few Liberal Seats in Ontario get even close to 60% voter support. I do believe that these huge numbers out West provide alot of DEADWOOD candidates.

Amount Diverted from EI by the Liberals... $48 Billion...