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NO you convinced me you wear blinders and refuse to actually look at subjects for what they are.

We get PM's from Quebec because it is the firewall. It is what decides if there is a majority or swings the election. They have a Non of the above option if they feel the Liberals aren't right or the the don't want the Cons to get a Majority. Right now I am fine with that because Harper burned all his bridges trying to save his government.

These polls mean nothing as well, we don't vote for the PM no matter what anyone says.

He really is trying to villainize them and is having a hard time doing it.

Nothing I like proof before I start a witch hunt not after.

No I don't agree there is problem.

The problem is instead of reading up on the Bills out there he just listens to his party and makes the rest up.

WHEN DID THAT HAPPEN?? He had a reform bill HARPER KILLED IT, by calling an election.

I SAY IT AGAIN THE NDP DOES NOT RECOGNIZE THE SENATE. So no I do not think the NDP will appoint anyone. Plus the if Harper actually works with the other parties the coalition is dead. Iggy already told us this. Keep demonizing the coalition and you lose Quebec forever BTW.

That is what will happen if the Cons keep SPEND SPEND SPENDING ohhhhh Brian how we missed you. Glade Steve is there to bring back your ways.

Who cares then he should wait until all the seats are given up, or he should wait for a majority and then pass reform through quickly. Screw costing us 9 million on these senators and another 9 million on the next batch and so on.

He has the backing of both his party and NDP if he is willing to get ride of it. That is a Majority. Plus the only thing he has to do is wait it out. I think he might have a year left in him. So right now he should wait it out. 9 million to a body he does not like or support seems a bit sketchy. You guys keep coming up with excusing as to why he is doing the right thing making appointments and we all know he isn't. The Liberals might think he is doing the right thing, or the smart thing. Come on this is something I can get behind he needs to move to get ride of it.

They are not a gang infact most Muslim hate and intolerance is directed at other Muslims, just as most of your everyone else category is the same. I still vote for you.

Worst poll ever I will cast a write in vote for you, for making this poll. You are the most intolerant for thinking a group of people as a whole can be intolerant. We all make our own decisions.

Jesus get past it, Harper promised reform. He didn't give us that. He told me saving 30 million in public financing would save Canada well 9 million might be a good start to that. LET THE SENATE DIE ALREADY. Look thing this something where you Cons on the right and us NDP on the left can agree and now we can leave the middle to suck it.

I think the Senate needs to die off, I toe the NDP party line on most issues. I was saying that what you said relates to nothing in this thread.

What is the price of tea in China anyway?

Harper could save us 9 million and more by not filling them, if that 30 million was sooooo important in the economic update why is this different? I trust the NDP on this one they don't got any horses in the race.

Maybe we could wait until we have some sort of government to decide who is the best there is. Harper is in a big No win with this auto bail out right now I think.

Polls dont count as long as we don't have a government

It does not matter Harper is going to be in for a fight over the next year and he is going to lose power.

It does not matter who's fault it is. He is going to get the blame if he dose not bail them out and if he does the east coast and west will blame him for doing that.

They just announced the closure of a huge amount of auto plants. Harper can kiss the Ontario vote good by when December numbers are give out and Ontario drops 100 000 jobs easy. No majority unless he does it in Quebec which wont happen.

PFFFTTTT you are dreaming.

He just let all the seats go unfilled then it would be no problem to not only get senate reform but also get ride of it like the NDP want too.