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punked

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  1. When I got my Wisconsin ballot this year there was 4 parties on it. When I went to vote in my ridding there was 9 parties. 9 is defiantly more then 4 I think.
  2. When the cons pass legislation they need the bloc to vote with them too. 14 times during the last government this happened. Must be the Cons sold us out to the Bloc lets get ride of them. See how dumb your arguement is?
  3. That is just not true though Obama did not play to the middle just as Bush didn't play to the middle. He campaigned on health care reform, getting out of iraq, and renewable resources. He played to the left but had a huge GOTV effort all across the country. Maybe it will be true in the future that in a 2 party system they must play to the middle but it is not now. They are all about getting out the base and trying to suppress the other guys base.
  4. In the last three US elections it was about not going to the middle but to get your base out in huge numbers. This is possible in elections where only 60% of people vote becuase while a base does not make up half the country they can make up half the electorate because only 60% of people are voting. So the old model of moving to the middle goes out the window. Look at the pick of Palin this was to force the base out in as big of numbers as possible. It is a new time in politics, GOTV is where it is at now not playing for the middle.
  5. Last time I checked polls wont matter much for another 2 months becuase we have no government for that time. They closed it down remember? Charest came out yesterday and said the Bloc is a Fed party and Harper should stop crying because democracy isn't going his way.
  6. Give it a week that was done before we lost 70,000 jobs and oil was heading for 25$ a barrel. The latest polls shows most of Canada while they would as of yesterday support Harper if we went to an election still blame him for this whole coalition hoopla. Well with a Recession Bond to be projected next quarter, record high unemployment, the auto sector asking for 6 billion and no Alberta Oil to save us all and Harper being blamed for the closing of parliament we will see what happens in a month. The public is fickle and lets face it this will be the new constant news for the next year. We got a long hard road and Harper is going to take the blame with out Dion at the head of the Liberal government. Keep fanning the flames of Quebec Harper.
  7. It appears right now the opinion in Quebec is that if Harper is going to call them all separatist they should think about separating again. He is the one fanning the flames. "Baffled by the intensity of Prime Minister Stephen Harper’s aggressive condemnations of the Liberal-NDP coalition’s deal with the Bloc Québécois, Quebecers are now weighing the consequences of his strategy.”Maybe the rest of Canada is going to help Quebec separate, and that would be great!” said Nathalie Pauzé, a graphic designer in Montreal, and evidently a sovereignist at heart. Pauzé thinks that when it comes to national unity, Harper’s ongoing invective against the separatist Bloc – which had only agreed to support the coalition – has fanned the flames of discord, and that can only help the sovereignist cause in Quebec." Working with Quebec and the Party the majority of Quebec voted in might be a way to killing the movement and it had been working. Now next election instead of a battered Bloc that works with Canada. We get an embolden one that is a pure Harper creation. http://www.thestar.com/News/Canada/article/548827
  8. Pure semantics with out the Bloc, the Liberals, or the NDP voting with the Cons there is no government. So it is ok as long as the Block votes with the Cons right? Just wrong when they come out and say "Yes we agree with the NDP and Liberals"?
  9. Yes those 66,000 seasonal jobs in Ontario right? I forgot what is the fall "seasonal" jobs in Ontario again?
  10. I like our system I am not being critical of it so why would I can to come up with something better?
  11. The silent majority is Nixon's key slogan in fact he made it famous of the conservative cause.
  12. No Essentially that is a juvenile way of thinking of our system not only that but it is the wrong way of thinking of it. What would be better?
  13. I love when people quote Nixon he was great right?
  14. I CALLED IT! PUT ME ON THE TV! Mike Duffy go f yourself.
  15. There is already a topic about this on the page?
  16. Melodramatic much? The answer is yes you are.
  17. HAhahah YOU: "Raaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh I HATE DIFFERENT!!!! I want everything to be the same all the time, I need Normal" Too bad that is not the way the laws of Canada are written deal with it.
  18. The rumor is Harper is thinking about doing until the New Year? Is that end? Is it a good idea? I don't know what he is thinking but some are throwing the idea out there and seeing how it plays.
  19. My Canada includes Quebec and my Quebec is part of Canada. That means they get a vote and an opinion deal with IT!
  20. Thanks for adding..............nothing.
  21. Yah doesn't he look stuipd now. You know that Harper is caving to his every demand. What a terrible politician.
  22. So Bob will be the go to guy of the Conservative backroom this week. I am shocked. Incredibly, we learn from Bob that the NDP and the Bloc speak on the telephone thingys up there in Ottawa. Shocking stuff, this: "NDP, Bloc in coalition talks before fiscal update: tape." I'm partly sarcastic here, partly greatly ticked at the methods used here by the Conservatives. Barging in on an NDP conference call and taping it? This appears to be what the Conservatives did. So welcome to Harper's Canada where apparently hatchet thingys invade other party telephone calls, tape them and distribute to the media. Doesn't feel like my Canada. Feels like Nixon's or Rove's U.S. Secondly...and? It's news that the NDP and Bloc have been speaking? In a minority parliament? How scandalous. The other parties outnumber the Conservatives and if the Conservatives aren't acting in a manner that the other parties agree with...then such discussions are entirely appropriate. It's appropriate to explore at any moment and lay the groundwork for alternatives in an inherently fragile parliament, which, contrary to Conservative spinning, it is. Thirdly, desperate times apparently call for desperate measures. The Conservatives are spending their time plotting dirty tricks against opposition parties, not governing. Attempting to inflame Canadians. Very telling. Let them keep showing how they operate. The opposition should keep talking issues, deal with the distractions but keep this sideshow stuff in its proper place. Fourthly, I wonder what a Conservative conference call sounds like? Oh to be a fly on the wall listening in on those discussions at the moment...something to keep in mind if you hear any tapes of party phone calls today. From http://impolitical.blogspot.com/2008/11/br...ourtesy-of.html
  23. "After two years of planning a new future for the Canadian forces, the Conservative government today announced what it called the Canada First Defence Strategy. The strategy is essentially the plan to replace six old and, in some cases, rusting pieces of equipment with new ones, which is what the Conservatives promised to do in the last election campaign, two and a half years ago. Prime Minister Stephen Harper is promising to spend as much as $30 billion over 20 years to replace ships, vehicles, rescue and surveillance planes, and fighter aircraft. But not all of this is new. In fact, planning for all of those projects has been under way for some time. In some cases, plans to purchase the equipment had been announced but then cancelled and then, in at least one case, reannounced when the Conservatives took office. The prime minister said the Canadian Forces would be expanded to 100,000 soldiers, sailors and air crew, which is also a number already promised. He also said the defence budget would be doubled in 20 years, which may happen. But defence spending, of course, is notoriously at the whim of whoever is in office." -CBC So they are basically giving us what he promised cancelled and now promised again. Thanks for that 3 years and wasted money later.
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